7 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Well it ain't the brand that is going to win a flag Max! 

Geez, I reckon you're selling it a bit hard when your team is clearly out of form and your captain is coming out with:

“The expected score, which Champion Data does, had us in front by the end of the game"...

 

4 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Geez, I reckon you're selling it a bit hard when your team is clearly out of form and your captain is coming out with:

“The expected score, which Champion Data does, had us in front by the end of the game"...

 

We were in front in a bunch of stats but the key ones

Scoreboard

Scores we allowed from D50 stoppages 

Goal kicking accuracy

Gawn is clutching at straws though. Listening to too many of Simon's press conferences

BTW G Lyon and J Brown both said that the D50 stoppages are one of the easiest things to fix so lets hope they fix it pronto.

 

Simon's last press conference:

 

Edited July 27, 20214 yr by jnrmac

2 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

We were in front in a bunch of stats but the key ones

Scoreboard

Scores we allowed from D50 stoppages 

Goal kicking accuracy

 

BTW G Lyon and J Brown both said that the D50 stoppages are one of the easiest things to fix so lets hope they fix it pronto.

You're forgetting the stat that lost us the game... 

11-25

15 minutes ago, old dee said:

Well it ain't the brand that is going to win a flag Max! 

That is Goodwin and now Gawn suggesting that we are all ok jack. Well I'm not convinced and I am 100% with your summation

shades of the fittest corpse in the morgue

Just now, picket fence said:

That is Goodwin and now Gawn suggesting that we are all ok jack. Well I'm not convinced and I am 100% with your summation

I never understand when you lose games to  lowly teams then lose to a grand finalist that things are ok!  They are clearly not or we would have won. 

players and coaches presenting in media will always sell positivity not negativity

they're not demonland posters, after all!

1 minute ago, chook fowler said:

shades of the fittest corpse in the morgue

Can I borrow that one chook? 

18 minutes ago, old dee said:

Well it ain't the brand that is going to win a flag Max! 

Maybe not, but you hardy expect him to say we have to do a major overhaul at this point in the season.  In any case, that would be a stupid policy.  We have to tweak some things and hope for some things to click and we get back to the form that saw us beat every good team.  Currently that seems unlikely, but I can't see much point in doing anything else right now.

13 minutes ago, GCDee said:

You're forgetting the stat that lost us the game... 

11-25

Rubbish the majority were free kicks to the dogs. Blaming the umpires is a poor excuse. The umpire was not kicking for goal. The simple  fact is the Dogs played better and  they have match winners on the day, we did  not. Remember that old one. When the going gets tough the tough get going. 

Edited July 27, 20214 yr by old dee

Just now, sue said:

Maybe not, but you hardy expect him to say we have to do a major overhaul at this point in the season.  In any case, that would be a stupid policy.  We have to tweak some things and hope for some things to click and we get back to the form that saw us beat every good team.  Currently that seems unlikely, but I can't see much point in doing anything else right now.

Well it looks very much like another year to wait for a flag if nothing changes. 

Lies, damned lies, and statistics.

Oh my lawd.

Some people need some perspective.

Edited July 27, 20214 yr by Unleash Hell

1 minute ago, Unleash Hell said:

Oh my lawd.

Some people need some perspective.

I think we are looking in the wrong place for that

2 minutes ago, Unleash Hell said:

Oh my lawd.

Some people need some perspective.

Which is?

27 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

players and coaches presenting in media will always sell positivity not negativity

they're not demonland posters, after all!

There's being positive and then there's gaslighting

How about being honest.

"We're out of form. All is not lost, we can fix this stuff and we're onto it."

See, I didn't even mention learnings.

25 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

I think we are looking in the wrong place for that

Let's at least wait until we crash out of the finals before losing our shiz

31 minutes ago, old dee said:

Well it looks very much like another year to wait for a flag if nothing changes. 

Could be, but how many of us expected a flag at the start of the season?     Seems to me that expectations rose high due to being unexpectedly near the top of the ladder for so long and that has unreasonably increased the negativity some feel now. 

Let's hope that whatever happens from now is either a surprise return to form and a flag, or failing that, that we have something solid to build on for next year.

2 minutes ago, sue said:

Could be, but how many of us expected a flag at the start of the season?     Seems to me that expectations rose high due to being unexpectedly near the top of the ladder for so long and that has unreasonably increased the negativity some feel now. 

Let's hope that whatever happens from now is either a surprise return to form and a flag, or failing that, that we have something solid to build on for next year.

Agree 100% I kept thinking in May that over the years I had seen a lot of May Premiers who did not even make the GF a few months later. After that start if we don't make the GF a few things will be different in 2022. 

13 minutes ago, Unleash Hell said:

Let's at least wait until we crash out of the finals before losing our shiz

According to some of the pessimists its already happened.

1 minute ago, drysdale demon said:

According to some of the pessimists its already happened.

So I saw.

Same reasons I haven't been on here for a few weeks.

 

Edited July 27, 20214 yr by Unleash Hell

34 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

There's being positive and then there's gaslighting

How about being honest.

"We're out of form. All is not lost, we can fix this stuff and we're onto it."

See, I didn't even mention learnings.

Thank god!

1 hour ago, old dee said:

Rubbish the majority were free kicks to the dogs. 

You. Have. To. Be. Kidding

I can barely remember a game umpired so poorly and so inconsistently. And i remember a lot of games where the umpiring has been woeful.

It was 11-4 at half time.

Our fourth free kick happened on our half back line with 5 seconds to go. So it was essentially 11-3. 

And as always, it was the frees missed that were significant than the ones given.

Sure we lost the game, and that's on us, but there is absolutely no question a big factor in their 21 point lead at half time was the rubbish umpiring. 

Simply not good enough. 

Edited July 27, 20214 yr by binman