POSTGAME: Rd 18 vs Hawthorn

[Roger Mellie 4,010]

1 hour ago, DeeZee said:

Our mindset is all wrong.

when we play the bottom teams it should be to out tackle and pressure them not to out finesse them 

^ This. When we play a [censored] team we start by trying to get a feel for the game (ie. seeing if we can get away with the win without the requisite effort). The opposition pounces and we end up looking like utter flogs. Tonight looked a bit different. Our intent was there for the first quarter (unlike v Adelaide, Coll, GWS). After a respectable lead at quarter time,  we went back into cruise mode. WTF??

We seriously cant be soooo stupid as to think, we'll get away with a win with half arsed efforts. The question is why? The first things that spring to mind (apart from being as dumb as a box of rocks) is arrogance and fatigue. I think it's a combination of both. Exhaustion for the younger players and arrogance for the older players. I also wonder if there's something in their preparation in the week leading up to the game, that results in the game being taken lightly yet AGAIN! FMD

[layzie 33,793]

Dr D is a genius too beautiful for this world...

[Earl Hood 6,086]

We won nearly every stat, disposals, inside 50’s, contested, hit outs, clearances, time in possession, shots on goal but they had more tackles, free kicks and were more accurate on goal. We were likely out coached, their game style and delivery forward negated May and Lever strengths and they were able to play around Gawn in the second half. Our finals opponents will be noting all this surely. Adelaide and the Pies have both found us out delivering the ball fast and low to close targets inside 50 for some reason the best sides have been happy to take our strengths head on but without success. 

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Gunna’s said:

Just the post I saw - phone wasn’t  refreshing nicely. And not really the performance (hence the emoji) that warrants us to go back to top of the table 

No, not ideal, was it? I’m sure we’ll bounce back, though. Cheers for answering my question. ?❤️?

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,816]

Has T Mac nailed a set shot at the MCG since the Sydney win? 

I thought BBB was quite poor tonight with just 1.1.

Can’t expect to win too many games when our 2 key forwards kick 2 between them.

If Josh Kennedy and Jack Darling are kicking 2 between them, you can pretty much assume that West Coast have lost.

 

[WERRIDEE 5,468]

5 minutes ago, Return to Glory said:

I’ve been meaning to say, you are genuinely and undoubtedly,  the smartest person on Demonland. Not by a little way but by a substantial margin. We all think it. We just don’t say it. Your comments are insightful, fearless and eloquent. And funny. Always. 

I just feel that your genius is wasted on us dummies. Why bother? You’ve done what you can. Maybe it’s time to move on to bigger things. Dustin Fletcher Hanger? Or just a sabbatical? 

I think Dr.D has even surpassed  the biggest clowns on this forum. He's one in a million.

[Gunna’s 2,104]

Just now, WalkingCivilWar said:

No, not ideal, was it? I’m sure we’ll bounce back, though. Cheers for answering my question. ?❤️?

Lucky for us we have to worry about the bottom 10 teams in finals ? 

 

[layzie 33,793]

I can’t believe I’m even wondering if we were better off not taking advantage from the Viney free and kicking to Pickett. 
 

Nah he should have just played on :p 

[Dr. Gonzo 24,206]

1 hour ago, Demons11 said:

The wet conditions suited the Hawks tackling game tonight and they were hungrier 

That's exactly the problem!

[SPC 3,549]

Never seen our back 6 so shaky.. every time it went in, I was sure they would score.. May looked like a debutant 

[WERRIDEE 5,468]

They just weren't switched on after quarter time. Just thought it would happen Hawthorn had other ideas. The bombing into the forward 50 was diabolical Stafford should be sacked. 

[Dr.D 1,771]

13 minutes ago, Go the Biff said:

I'm not one of the happy clappers. I've enjoyed our successes but have been fully aware of our shortcomings. Chiefly our deplorable structure & system inside 50 and our new-found weakness at stoppages.

However it concerns me greatly that someone's insecurity has them constantly posting on an anonymous fan forum to give themselves pats on the back. And to admonish those who don't enthusiastically join in with the Dr. D back patting.
I hope UROK.
If on the other hand you are just a narcissist and an harsehole (silent first h), I'm still prepared to help you out.
For Dr. D

A range of options but the Blonde Block Full Length Mirror is 30% off. I believe they'll deliver in lockdown.

There you go son, either use it to aid your narcissistic tendencies or to, in the words of the Couldabeens "have a good hard look at yourself"

You know this all started because I said I thought we would come 5th since we lost to Collingwood and it was you guys that were admonishing me. Just for own opinion. So that is the only reason that I'm not letting it go. Because you incorrectly interpreted my opinion for trolling when in fact it was a calculated opinion which is becoming more accurate by the week.

[Dr.D 1,771]

2 minutes ago, SPC said:

Never seen our back 6 so shaky.. every time it went in, I was sure they would score.. May looked like a debutant 

Was it may that was on Lewis at the start of the 4th? yes, he got easy supply but why was he 5m behind him on the lead. Frustrating.

[Pates 9,660]

I haven’t come in here since the match thread because I needed to decompress. I will say this; at least we got the draw which is what we should have got against Adelaide. 

But this much closer to a loss than a win, the players should be having a good long hard look at each because right they are deciding when they are and aren’t going to play properly. The moment we got out to our 26 point lead they stopped playing properly, they paid the Hawks zero respect and have paid the price. Our kicking for goal has been poor this year and in recent weeks it has caught up to us. Brayshaw should have dobbed his at the end, Brown should have kicked his in the first quarter, and we had entrance after entrance into the forward 50 that was to a big pack situation where no one was going to mark it. We’ve gone backwards since the start of the year with forward connection, but what’s infuriating is we keep doing the same f-ing  thing!

We as fans ask for respect from the media but performances like that prove we haven’t earned it yet. We didn’t look like top 4 contenders tonight, we didn’t even look like a top 8 threat. Once again the competition has a laugh at us, we are yet again a joke. 

Fabulous welcome home, this makes quarantine fun. ?

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,816]

Is it possible the poor teams we’ve lost/drawn to have specifically adjusted their game plan going inside 50 to prevent the high bombs to Lever and May, combining dirty ball with smart low passes.

How often did we see May and Co get beaten on a lead in the Pies and Hawks games.

Meanwhile Essendon (who are clearly better than Collingwood and Hawthorn) are on record as refusing to change up their method for one isolated game which subsequently resulted in them continually bombed it high for most of their inside 50’s.

Perhaps the same applies for the top teams where they’ve backed in they’re existing tactics against ours.

[WERRIDEE 5,468]

Have a farkin sook. Get over it. If we finish 5th it looks like the only person that will be happy is you and that is disgraceful. It was a kick in the guts tonight but the beauty of football is we can make amends the next week. This was directed at you Dr.d

Edited July 17, 2021 by WERRIDEE

[layzie 33,793]

Anyone else notice we tend to stink after 9 day breaks? Yet off 5 or 6 days breaks we’re golden. It’s like this group is better off when they roll on through battle hardened and too long of a break is like ring rust. I don’t know.

[Return to Glory 8,434]

9 minutes ago, Dr.D said:

You know this all started because I said I thought we would come 5th since we lost to Collingwood and it was you guys that were admonishing me. Just for own opinion. So that is the only reason that I'm not letting it go. Because you incorrectly interpreted my opinion for trolling when in fact it was a calculated opinion which is becoming more accurate by the week.

Don’t back down Dr D. Haters gonna hate. But you’ll show them. Oh yes you will. No -one will ever doubt DD. 

[Go the Biff 3,414]

10 minutes ago, Dr.D said:

You know this all started because I said I thought we would come 5th since we lost to Collingwood and it was you guys that were admonishing me. Just for own opinion. So that is the only reason that I'm not letting it go. Because you incorrectly interpreted my opinion for trolling when in fact it was a calculated opinion which is becoming more accurate by the week.

Hahaha. I think you'll find your self-adulatory posting had its genesis long before the Collingwood game. I've no problem with your opinion nor your analysis. It carries no more or less weight than anyone else's on an anonymous fan forum. But your neediness is concerning. Help is out there. Seek it.

Or, full length mirror

[The Stewster 220]

7 minutes ago, layzie said:

Anyone else notice we tend to stink after 9 day breaks? Yet off 5 or 6 days breaks we’re golden. It’s like this group is better off when they roll on through battle hardened and too long of a break is like ring rust. I don’t know.

Spot on. Too much time in front of the mirror. Fumble, fumble , fumble tonight 

[hardtack 10,537]

1 hour ago, Dr.D said:

You called me a troll when I said we'd finish 5th because you guys couldn't fathom the idea that we could finish 5th. I had done my research and I looked at all the teams and who they were playing and looked at our form and came up with 5th. So I've now proven that my prediction is the most accurate because you guys couldn't even stomach the idea that coming 5th was within the realms of possibility. 

Who did you predict to win last week against Port?

Who did you predict to win against the Dogs and the Lions?

I may be wrong, but as I recall, it wasn’t us.

Yep, you’re a genius.

[Dr.D 1,771]

12 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

Have a farkin sook. Get over it. If we finish 5th it looks like the only person that will be happy is you and that is disgraceful. It was a kick in the guts tonight but the beauty of football is we can make amends the next week. This was directed at you Dr.d

We don't make amends next week. that's the whole point. The only thing that makes amends is a win against the dogs, Geelong or wce in Perth. 

 

[Dr. Gonzo 24,206]

So much for the MCG being a fortress. Lost to GWS, drew with Hawks, barely got over the Bombers.

Can people stop quoting Dr D I have him on ignore so I don't see his rubbish.

Agree with those who were disgusted with Oliver's reaction when Spargo marked it. How is that team first mentality? When was the last time you kicked a set shot goal mate?

Kozzie needs coaching on his set shots his run up is no good

The Cats in their glory days of 2007-2011 focused on crushing teams early so they could cruise at the end. We just want to cruise from the get go.

Edited July 17, 2021 by Dr. Gonzo

[Dr.D 1,771]

2 minutes ago, Go the Biff said:

Hahaha. I think you'll find your self-adulatory posting had its genesis long before the Collingwood game. I've no problem with your opinion nor your analysis. It carries no more or less weight than anyone else's on an anonymous fan forum. But your neediness is concerning. Help is out there. Seek it.

Or, full length mirror

I think my neediness is as much as a concern as everyone's bias towards this club. They are so blinded by their loyalty that they can't see the forest for the trees. and that annoys me. It's like a kid making the same mistake time and time again. 

But don't worry, Gold Coast is in the bag and we'll lock in a top 2 spot!  :S

[BillyBeane 253]

1 hour ago, Little Goffy said:

 

 

It was irritating that the commentators so clearly favoured Hawthorn. My favourite was the post-game excitement about the 'young talent' at Hawthorn. Our 22 was younger than theirs and most of their younger players were also their least effective.

But, meh. Learnings. The way Hawthorn played will provide a valuable lesson for finals. Better to get a draw in round 18 than having to play extra time in a preliminary final.

 

 

A very interesting point about experience and games played.  I thought we were lucky to get the 2 points.  It's bizarre how we looked absolutely cooked half way through the 3rd and looked out of it early in the 4th off a 10 day break.  I thought we were going to lose by 4 goals.  Hopefully the two points are as good as a win by seasons end.