On 8/11/2021 at 11:25 AM, DeezNuts said:

Also, Gawn, Oliver, May and TMAC need to accept umpiring decisions quickly without throwing their arms in the air. That the boys can control, it might just turn around any perception that our leaders sook too much on the field.

It declares a certain lack of resilience amongst our leaders at times. Shut the mouth, get on with the game, don't acknowledge the umpiring errors and the less-than-acceptable decision-making. We clearly see the situated interference with games through the umpires where history dictates there ain't no point in complaining, anymore. 

 

12 hours ago, jnrmac said:

Last 10 finals Dogs have won the free kick count. Just sayin....

Yep, I'm flat out refusing to watch us play against them if we have to,

round 19 count was 25-11

SIlvertails vs Proletariat?

We know where the free kicks are going...

4 verrrry dubious free kicks fr 4 goals to weightman. that’s game changing umpiring. 

On 8/24/2021 at 6:28 PM, Mazer Rackham said:

I ran this through the old stats calculator. Mean -0.11, standard deviation 31.7. All numbers comfortably within 3 standard deviations. Chance of 72 or more: 1%. Change of -86 or lower: 1%. So outliers, but (unfortunately) nothing extraordinary.

I also ran it through the old conspiracy calculator and it ranked the Dogs as "teachers pets". So again no raised eyebrows.

I also ran it through the old mongrel calculator and it confirmed that Richmond are in fact mongrels. So that makes it official.

Did your calculator explain why the numbers don't add up to zero? (Not that it makes much difference, but the home and away figures add up to -2.) 

1 hour ago, The Stigga said:

Yep, I'm flat out refusing to watch us play against them if we have to,

round 19 count was 25-11

SIlvertails vs Proletariat?

We know where the free kicks are going...

25-11 in the wettest slippery conditions was a Godsend to the dogs and sealed the game for them.

5 hours ago, Deemania since 56 said:

It declares a certain lack of resilience amongst our leaders at times. Shut the mouth, get on with the game, don't acknowledge the umpiring errors and the less-than-acceptable decision-making. We clearly see the situated interference with games through the umpires where history dictates there ain't no point in complaining, anymore. 

 

At least we aint pushing umpires over.

 

3 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Did your calculator explain why the numbers don't add up to zero? (Not that it makes much difference, but the home and away figures add up to -2.) 

They've never added up. It's a zero-sum game as you as clearly aware, but the published numbers have never added up when I've checked them. They're always out by a small number. But I figure it doesn't change the big picture much.

On 8/24/2021 at 6:20 PM, deelusions from afar said:

Worst result for a team in the 8.

Interesting that the cats...crows...port and eagles with their home booing crowds have a lot of frees.

5 hours ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Also, Gawn, Oliver, May and TMAC need to accept umpiring decisions quickly without throwing their arms in the air. That the boys can control, it might just turn around any perception that our leaders sook too much on the field.

In one of my group chats a message about Oliver is quoted every Melbourne Game.

the message is along the lines of "Put your arms down Oliver you (nasty expletive)"

I actually thought that our game on Saturday night was really well umpired. Except a couple of idiotic dangerous tackle calls, which went both way, it was a game where you didn't notice the umpires at all. And that is a good game.

Say what you like about Ray, he is a good umpire. 

19 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said:

They've never added up. It's a zero-sum game as you as clearly aware, but the published numbers have never added up when I've checked them. They're always out by a small number. But I figure it doesn't change the big picture much.

I think a Royal Commission is required to get to the bottom of this.

10 minutes ago, Jaded said:

Except a couple of idiotic dangerous tackle calls, which went both way,

Yeh that confused me a little.

On first viewing there didn't seem to be a lot on the ones called against Harmes, and then Lever was slammed to the ground and that wasn't called, then one in favour of Harmes was called. I'd need to re-watch again but thought the Lever one was the most dangerous on first viewing. 

12 minutes ago, Jaded said:

I actually thought that our game on Saturday night was really well umpired. Except a couple of idiotic dangerous tackle calls, which went both way, it was a game where you didn't notice the umpires at all. And that is a good game.

Say what you like about Ray, he is a good umpire. 

I thought the same. I didn't notice the umpires, which is always a positive sign.  

FINALS FREE KICK DIFFERENTIAL WEEK 1

Bulldogs +8

Geelong +5

Melbourne +4

GWS +2

Sydney -2

Brisbane -4

Port -5

Essendon -8

I actually feel guilty on the rare occasions (like Saturday night), when we get more frees than the opposition!!

23 minutes ago, Jaded said:

Say what you like about Ray, he is a good umpire. 

I actually think he is one of the better umpires. He might be a bit theatrical at times but his explanations are always appreciated. Some umpires just say "that's what I thought happened" without giving an actual explanation.

1 minute ago, Jumping Jack Clennett said:

I actually feel guilty on the rare occasions (like Saturday night), when we get more frees than the opposition!!

It's a variation on Stockholm Syndrome.

2 hours ago, Wells 11 said:

4 verrrry dubious free kicks fr 4 goals to weightman. that’s game changing umpiring. 

Yes, the Dogs do get the rub of the green, but that is just plain wrong… the last on the boundary line was dubious, but the first three were free kicks every day of the week.

1 hour ago, hardtack said:

Yes, the Dogs do get the rub of the green, but that is just plain wrong… the last on the boundary line was dubious, but the first three were free kicks every day of the week.

Agree to disagree HT. i guess to be fair to your point though, and adjust my original i reckon he was dead set gifted 2 and you could argue the toss on the other two. if it was against the dees i’d have a hard time swallowing that.

2 hours ago, Wells 11 said:

Agree to disagree HT. i guess to be fair to your point though, and adjust my original i reckon he was dead set gifted 2 and you could argue the toss on the other two. if it was against the dees i’d have a hard time swallowing that.

cameron got his first goal from a lion's player about to go out of bounds, who did a blind over the head 30m handball. if that wasn't a throw i'll go he.  

Edited August 30, 20213 yr by daisycutter

20 hours ago, Nairobi_Demon said:

Will be interesting to watch these passages of play once the ProVision is online:

 

Dogs back to dominating the free kick count, 22 to 14 today. 
 

I saw all of those frees and don't believe any were there really. Then there's Gerard Whately on AFL 360 seemingly trying to divert attention from the dogs getting the rub of the green and arguing that Weightman wasn't playing for frees. Well that's obvious Gerard, clearly he wasn't!! But get back to the point. Why do the Bulldogs seem to get these runs of [censored] free kicks at opportune times? Address that for once. Pisses me off. If we lose a flag or something because of this, I'm not sure I'll cope.

8 hours ago, Boots and all said:

Why do the Bulldogs seem to get these runs of [censored] free kicks at opportune times? 

Because a lot of the time, the bulldogs are first to the ball. 

 

8 hours ago, Boots and all said:

I saw all of those frees and don't believe any were there really.

The only real bad free against Cody was the first one. Cody is clearly pulling the Essendon players arm down into his neck for the free.

The Draper one was incidental contact but can see why the umpire paid it on first look as it looked like a clothesline from behind.

The holding one is there even if it's soft, the Essendon player held him by the jumper and pulled him back then let go.

The push in the back on the boundary was a terrible call cos the bump from the other Essendon player is what made contact with him. Thats the umpires fault, not Codys. 
 

The Bulldogs get a gifted run from the umps, that’s a statistical fact. The other fact is that there will be an overt correction on their free kick differential this weekend because it’s been a big media story. The AFL/Umps are nothing if not reactive to media influence. Not suggesting they lose the free kick count, that would be ridiculous, just an obvious correction, particularly in forward 50. Weightman may not get any.  

On 8/30/2021 at 10:47 AM, Demonland said:

FINALS FREE KICK DIFFERENTIAL WEEK 1

Bulldogs +8

Geelong +5

Melbourne +4

GWS +2

Sydney -2

Brisbane -4

Port -5

Essendon -8

FINALS FREE KICK DIFFERENTIAL WEEK 2

Bulldogs +17 

Geelong +12

Melbourne +4 (DNP)

GWS -5

Port -5 (DNP)

Brisbane -13

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Sydney -2

Essendon -8

After the second week of Finals ...

Bulldogs +89

Geelong +41

GWS +24

Port +11 (DNP)

Melbourne -12 (DNP)

Brisbane -19