Been thinking about our game style.

We get the ball enough but because of turnovers, poor decisions and not being able to convert inside 50's we lose matches.

I'd like to see us minimise turnovers, play smart and of course convert.

This would mean an increase to our skills, better use of strategy when working out a game plan, and taking marks and becoming better crumbers.

The other thing I want to see is a plan to stop the opposition when they take control of the game.

Finally, I want us to play for the entire 4 quarters.

Most of this comes down to being mentally strong with good coaching. 

 

 

Edited March 5, 20215 yr by kev martin

16 minutes ago, kev martin said:

Been thinking about our game style.

We get the ball enough but because of turnovers, poor decisions and not being able to convert inside 50's we lose matches.

I'd like to see us minimise turnovers, play smart and of course convert.

This would mean an increase to our skills, better use of strategy when working out a game plan, and taking marks and becoming better crumbers.

The other thing I want to see is a plan to stop the opposition when they take control of the game.

Finally, I want us to play for the entire 4 quarters.

Most of this comes down to being mentally strong with good coaching. 

 

 

Minimising turnovers alone will win us more games and as a result make us a better side.

Edited March 5, 20215 yr by Redleg

I want to see a discernible forward line plan that doesn't include kicking to the hot spot and hoping for something to happen. 

I really hope Goody has been working on the oppositions game.

We can't just be about our brand!

He has to able to do something to cool an opposition player or to stem the goal rally of the opponents.

1 hour ago, Redleg said:

Minimising turnovers alone will win us more games and as a result make us a better side.

Some of their turnovers came when they had time to think and steady. Turnovers when under pressure are understandable, 

Bad skill execution and brain fades are not.

Those unable to perform should be consistently kicking and handballing everyday of the week.

Edited March 5, 20215 yr by kev martin

1 hour ago, RalphiusMaximus said:

I want to see a discernible forward line plan that doesn't include kicking to the hot spot and hoping for something to happen. 

I agree, we need to be able to hit up leads, kick to advantage and change up the angles when attacking. 

Too many times we kick it to the oppositions sweeper or intercept player.

The teams like Westcoast and Tigers must lick their lips when playing against us.

 

 

10 hours ago, kev martin said:

Finally, I want us to play for the entire 4 quarters.

Most of this comes down to being mentally strong with good coaching. 

Over the last few years our good is very good but our bad is terrible. The inconsistency and yo-yo performances suggest mental fragility and weakness. We let our intensity and effort drop off. The Bulldogs last year springs to mind as a classic example. A 3^rd quarter disappearing act. Everybody but particularly senior players need to held accountable.

We need to hit moving targets with added variation and unpredicatability in our ball movement from the backline, midfield then into the forwad line and hot zones. More, better and sudden running, please. Combine these attributtes with a bit of 'mongrel' coz second don't get the ball and don't add to the scoreline we need. 

 

Being able to hit up a free player at kick ins. 

Organised chaos and balance are what I think of.

You can’t be safe or too cute or you won’t move the ball quick enough to succeed. But at the same time there has to be some organisation to have things work out.

1 up, 1 down. Keeping width for handball receives. Trusting team mates to stick a tackle. Making sure the long kicks down the line go to advantage.

If we get all those little things right consistently enough things will be looking better.

I think Goodwin has actually been on the right track with the way we spread, change angles on the kicks and move the ball quickly. We’ve just been lacking skills in some areas and lacking organisation as well. 

I actually dont think our turnovers or our kick inside 50 is the true issue. It has been our inability to switch quickly to defend and pressure when we turnover and an inability to contain inside forward 50s and maximise the value of stoppage goals. A more defensive mindset mix at stoppage, Gawn drifting forward and taking more i50 hit outs rather than dropping a kick behind and our likely increased small forward mix in set up will address a lot of this even if we didn’t improve our kicking efficiency. 

 

in terms of game plan, winning contested football is clearly the dna of our current side, what we need to do to make us a 'winning' side is limit turnovers and make the most of opportunities

from my perspective 25 wins or so in a row would do nicely, none where we're less than four goals up for the whole of each and every final quarter; a settled heart and the joy of knowing that you've 'got this' is my favourite part of watching 'winning' football

I’d like to see Oliver & Petracca signed up long term & disposal accuracy into the forward line

Goodwin and the stkilda reject both sacked.

9 hours ago, Better days ahead said:

Over the last few years our good is very good but our bad is terrible. The inconsistency and yo-yo performances suggest mental fragility and weakness. We let our intensity and effort drop off. The Bulldogs last year springs to mind as a classic example. A 3^rd quarter disappearing act. Everybody but particularly senior players need to held accountable.

Without the runner to pass on coaches messages, it really is up to the on-field leaders to straighten the ship.

They need to assess the situation, have a plan, communicate and lead by example. Not so easy, but they have to try something and not just let the opposition roll over us.

The plan would have to include tempo control. Push our lines deeper or more shallow. Set a tagger on a hot player. Support, encourage and instruct team-mates. Get the ball. Score goals. Some individual brilliance would also work.

Post game accountability is good but they should act as soon as the rots starts.

 

3 hours ago, Deemania since 56 said:

We need to hit moving targets with added variation and unpredicatability in our ball movement from the backline, midfield then into the forwad line and hot zones. More, better and sudden running, please. Combine these attributtes with a bit of 'mongrel' coz second don't get the ball and don't add to the scoreline we need. 

 

I want some mongrel in our team. Other teams and their supporters see us as easy. Its great when we are up and running. The opposition supporters get agitated. They get nasty as do their players. The opposition will try and rough us up. We should start giving it back. We've had too many years of "taking it". Time to get some pride and believe. 

Unpredictability, together with good skill execution is hard to defend against.

Coast to coast creates confidence and hurts the opposition. 

As does breaking the lines.

20 hours ago, kev martin said:

Been thinking about our game style.

We get the ball enough but because of turnovers, poor decisions and not being able to convert inside 50's we lose matches.

I'd like to see us minimise turnovers, play smart and of course convert.

This would mean an increase to our skills, better use of strategy when working out a game plan, and taking marks and becoming better crumbers.

The other thing I want to see is a plan to stop the opposition when they take control of the game.

Finally, I want us to play for the entire 4 quarters.

Most of this comes down to being mentally strong with good coaching. 

 

 

A flag. 

3 hours ago, Dannyz said:

Being able to hit up a free player at kick ins. 

Really takes the pressure off.

1 hour ago, Billy said:

I’d like to see Oliver & Petracca signed up long term & disposal accuracy into the forward line

Don't we need them.

Hoping to go deep into the finals this season, become successful and  getting them satisfaction. 

Only way way to guarantee their signatures, as salary caps and us buying others may restrict us paying their full price.

1 hour ago, big_red_fire_engine said:

I actually dont think our turnovers or our kick inside 50 is the true issue. It has been our inability to switch quickly to defend and pressure when we turnover and an inability to contain inside forward 50s and maximise the value of stoppage goals. A more defensive mindset mix at stoppage, Gawn drifting forward and taking more i50 hit outs rather than dropping a kick behind and our likely increased small forward mix in set up will address a lot of this even if we didn’t improve our kicking efficiency. 

 

You are right about our reactions to turnovers. 

They are going to happen. If we can limit the scoreboard pain when it happens. Good teams can do it. Gut running, pressure, picking up your man, slow the ball down, get it back.

The ball does come out of our forward line a bit easy sometimes. 

Do need more goals from stoppages in the 50. Elite ruck, rove combination can only help. Max is a force we should use in there. Scoring is more important than getting re-entries. 

3 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

Organised chaos and balance are what I think of.

You can’t be safe or too cute or you won’t move the ball quick enough to succeed. But at the same time there has to be some organisation to have things work out.

1 up, 1 down. Keeping width for handball receives. Trusting team mates to stick a tackle. Making sure the long kicks down the line go to advantage.

If we get all those little things right consistently enough things will be looking better.

I think Goodwin has actually been on the right track with the way we spread, change angles on the kicks and move the ball quickly. We’ve just been lacking skills in some areas and lacking organisation as well. 

Love your analysis Dee.

A system of redoubts perpendicular to the main defensive line, which;

- force opposition advances into predictable paths ending in kill-boxes, and

- provide an advanced rallying point for swift counter-offensives. 

3 hours ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

in terms of game plan, winning contested football is clearly the dna of our current side, what we need to do to make us a 'winning' side is limit turnovers and make the most of opportunities

from my perspective 25 wins or so in a row would do nicely, none where we're less than four goals up for the whole of each and every final quarter; a settled heart and the joy of knowing that you've 'got this' is my favourite part of watching 'winning' football

Would like to see us hammer some of the bottom teams by 15 or about goals.

It would show we are working towards being ruthless. 

In the past, a 4 goal lead by Melbourne was not a guarantee for a win. They can sometimes give the opposition a look in.

Hoping that changes and we have no more fade outs or switch offs.

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