1 minute ago, Elegt said:

He was bracing. Things look worse in slow motion but there was no intent to hurt the bloke

Michael Christian: Yes. High impact. Severe outcome. Moderate intent. Forearm left out , not braced. 
Ok that’s 3 weeks reduced to 2 weeks with early gulity plea 

Gil: it was Paddy Dangerfield.  
 

Michael Christian: sorry. NOT GUILTY. 

Thumbs down to the Night Grand Final concept for me. I understand reviews are mixed on this but I don't think the spectacle provided justified it not did the AFL take advantage of any benefit to come from it. Was looking forward to DMAs but that was disappointing l. Who gets guest acts for their event to perform only 1 song that is a cover? 

Excruciating wait for the game, whole thing is done around 11:30pm what can you do with that? Smarter thing would have been to trial twilight first. I'm sorry I know being a traditionalist counts for F all these days but last night felt like an NRL Grand Final to me which the AFL should be 100,000 miles away from right now. 

Sacred day, different to any other day on the AFL calendar. A prelim at night is different to the GF at night. Everyone is different but it really feels the same as someone telling me that Christmas lunch this year will be moved to Christmas dinner. Just my thoughts, respectful disagreements welcome.

I enjoyed Borat 2 immensely. In fact, it was better than the first Borat. Hilarious. As a producer myself I admire how the hell he gets himself into these situations (and gets out of them).

Saw the second half of the game. Martin's last goal was absolute freak.

 

Martin is a bit like that kid at school that was so much better than everyone else that the teachers would make him change teams at half time to even things up.

5 hours ago, DubDee said:

Wow. To me that was a clear raised elbow / forearm when he could have just braced for impact. Took one of their most important back men out of the game in the first 10mins. Completely deliberate imo and I was being generous with thinking he’d just get two weeks. 
I guess the gloves will be off next GF then. 

very glad the Tigers won despite Vlaustin being taken out of the game 

If we ever get into a granny that's how I want our blokes playing.
No beg pardons.

Edited October 25, 20204 yr by Fork 'em

4 minutes ago, Fork 'em said:

If we ever get into a granny that's how I want our blokes playing.
No beg pardons.

I’d prefer to play like the Tigers. 
Attack the ball hard and get the win

32 minutes ago, DubDee said:

I’d prefer to play like the Tigers. 
Attack the ball hard and get the win

Might not have got the win but Isn't that what Dangerfield was doing?
And if it wasn't for Martin they probably would have.

 

Wizz Fizz.
Looked happy about it too.

 

 

Edited October 25, 20204 yr by Fork 'em

10 hours ago, Fork 'em said:

If we ever get into a granny that's how I want our blokes playing.
No beg pardons.

All the time I was watching I keep thinking we are not within a mile of producing the intensity of this game. Anyone ( are you listening Mr. Bartlett ) who thinks we are a top four side is blinded by patriotism. 

11 hours ago, Fork 'em said:

Might not have got the win but Isn't that what Dangerfield was doing?
And if it wasn't for Martin they probably would have.

he attacked the ball hard and then raised his arm to take out an opponent, illegally imo

the Tigers convincingly beat the cats with a key man down, and played fair.

4 hours ago, DubDee said:

he attacked the ball hard and then raised his arm to take out an opponent, illegally imo

Yep perfect.
Though I thnk he was aggressively protecting himself.
Hard at the ball .... And the man.
On the ragged edge and I couldn't care less if a player steps over.
I'd have my warface on roaring like a madman just like I was when Whelan poleaxed Hird and Grinter shirtfronted Mew.
GFs don't come along very often and aren't for the fainthearted.
 

Edited October 26, 20204 yr by Fork 'em

7 minutes ago, Fork 'em said:

Yep perfect.
Hard at the ball .... And the man.
On the ragged edge and I couldn't care less if a player steps over.
I'd have my warface on roaring like a madman just like I was when Whelan poleaxed Hird and Grinter shirtfronted Mew.
GFs don't come along very often and aren't for the fainthearted.
 

i think the thing that everyone forgets about that is that hird got up, dusted himself off, and was arguably bog

It seems Rich players deliberately did not attack Ablett's shoulder when he came back on.  Also when they formed the guard of honour for him to walk through each and every player removed their premiership medals.

Respect appropriately shown on and off the field.

Don't like Rich but credit where credit is due. 

Edited October 26, 20204 yr by Lucifer's Hero

45 minutes ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

i think the thing that everyone forgets about that is that hird got up, dusted himself off, and was arguably bog

Credit where it's due you're correct.
I learnt Hird was alot tougher than he looked that day.
Rivers also could have finished him off when Hird come back on.
Had him wide open but let him off the hook.
1st year player at the time I believe.

Having said that Whelans hit and Trappers resulting long bomb also changed the momentum of the game.
We were having our pants pulled down till that very moment.

Edited October 26, 20204 yr by Fork 'em

12 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

It seems Rich players deliberately did not attack Ablett's shoulder when he came back on.  Also when they formed the guard of honour for him to walk through each and every player removed their premiership medals.

Respect appropriately shown on and off the field.

Don't like Rich but credit where credit is due. 

To be honest they didn't really need to attack Ablett after he returned to the field - he was visibly very sore and more of a liability than a threat - I suspect if it wasn't his last hurrah he would not have returned to the field 

22 hours ago, Elegt said:

He was bracing. Things look worse in slow motion but there was no intent to hurt the bloke

I got the impression at the time that he at first lowered his elbow to brace and then raised it again hitting Vlaustin.  Looking at it again, it's less clear. But if he was genuinely bracing only, why does his arm clearly extend after he hits Vlaustin?   Wouldn't it stay close to his own body?

2 minutes ago, sue said:

I got the impression at the time that he at first lowered his elbow to brace and then raised it again hitting Vlaustin.  Looking at it again, it's less clear. But if he was genuinely bracing only, why does his arm clearly extend after he hits Vlaustin?   Wouldn't it stay close to his own body?

Make no mistake.
The elbow to the face wasn't an accident.

 

13 minutes ago, Sydee said:

To be honest they didn't really need to attack Ablett after he returned to the field - he was visibly very sore and more of a liability than a threat - I suspect if it wasn't his last hurrah he would not have returned to the field 

Maybe but good sportsmanship nonetheless.

2 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Maybe but good sportsmanship nonetheless.

Maybe - or just smart. He was barely able to lift his left arm 
If I was Hardwick I'd very happy to see him out there after the injury - if he was off the ground sure they would be down on rotations but I still believe it worked to Richmond's advantage him staying on the ground 
A very disappointing end for him and Geelong

1 hour ago, Fork 'em said:

Yep perfect.
Though I thnk he was aggressively protecting himself.
Hard at the ball .... And the man.
On the ragged edge and I couldn't care less if a player steps over.
I'd have my warface on roaring like a madman just like I was when Whelan poleaxed Hird and Grinter shirtfronted Mew.
GFs don't come along very often and aren't for the fainthearted.
 

I recall Michael Long taking that approach in 2000. I'm not a fan.

Go in hard for sure, hurt your opponent sure. but go for the head and rule them out for the game?  no.

2 hours ago, DubDee said:

I recall Michael Long taking that approach in 2000. I'm not a fan.

Go in hard for sure, hurt your opponent sure. but go for the head and rule them out for the game?  no.

Longs was a dog act for sure.
I was more [censored] cause the game was well and truely over by then.
But when the heats on and there's a GF to be won ..... Get the gloves off and bring the pain.

3 hours ago, Fork 'em said:

Make no mistake.
The elbow to the face wasn't an accident.

 

Yep

ANB got 4 weeks

What a joke