Lefty 413 Posted October 25, 2020 Posted October 25, 2020 I can't say I'm disappointed by this. Will be forever thankful for that goal in kicked on the run in the elimination final. One of the best highlights for me in the past decade. I could watch that over and over in my mind until we win a flag. He is a great mark for his height, has a nice kick, however, Mitch was too inconsistent. He often went missing for large chunks of games. He was very injury prone and didn't get great runs at having a full preseason under his belt. I guess he falls into the category of being a great second tier player that can show glimpses but his loss isn't going to hurt us. I wish him all the best at the Doggies (except of course against us). 1 Quote
old dee 24,083 Posted October 25, 2020 Posted October 25, 2020 On 10/22/2020 at 7:36 PM, Wiseblood said: In that article it says we offered a two year deal but the Dogs trumped us with a three year deal. Feels like the Dean Kent trade from a few years ago. I'm happy that we didn't offer three years as I don't believe his last few seasons warranted such an offer. He is Kent mark two. If 3 years is what it takes then as you say like Kent then good luck son. Quote
Wiseblood 24,637 Posted October 25, 2020 Posted October 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, old dee said: He is Kent mark two. If 3 years is what it takes then as you say like Kent then good luck son. I can understand why he wants a 3 year deal, but I can also understand why we didn't offer it. If the Dogs want him for three years then more power to them and to Hannan. 1 Quote
old dee 24,083 Posted October 25, 2020 Posted October 25, 2020 Just now, Wiseblood said: I can understand why he wants a 3 year deal, but I can also understand why we didn't offer it. If the Dogs want him for three years then more power to them and to Hannan. He is IMO one of those players who is too good for reserves but just not good enough for seniors. He is not the first and won't be the last. 3 Quote
Laughing Goat 308 Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 No loss to us as he's promised so much & delivered very little..... A good VFL player but that's all. 1 Quote
MrReims 324 Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 Love to see a play for Lin Jong rather than a pick. Similarly to Hannam had injury issues but has a precocious ability and is a low risk investment 1 Quote
Turner 1,516 Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 20 minutes ago, MrReims said: Love to see a play for Lin Jong rather than a pick. Similarly to Hannam had injury issues but has a precocious ability and is a low risk investment plays his best footy as an inside mid, not what were after at all, vanders doesnt need more mates in rehab Quote
MrReims 324 Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 11 minutes ago, Turner said: plays his best footy as an inside mid, not what were after at all, vanders doesnt need more mates in rehab Disagree, excellent foot skills and could release Salem into a more damaging role from half back. I know Riv is slated for that spot but again as opposed to pick 57 or whatever we could rightly expect for Hannan I just see more upside Quote
Turner 1,516 Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, MrReims said: Disagree, excellent foot skills and could release Salem into a more damaging role from half back. I know Riv is slated for that spot but again as opposed to pick 57 or whatever we could rightly expect for Hannan I just see more upside i have a sneaky suspicion hannan deal could be a late one after we've accrued enough points to trade into their first round pick through our other deals. but we could also flip such a pick for a phillips/higgins type which is more valuable than jong. + given no one has seen much of this draft class u have a better chance of getting a good slider at 57 than in previous years, if u look at it optomistically Quote
The Jackson FIX 3,512 Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 43 minutes ago, MrReims said: Love to see a play for Lin Jong rather than a pick. Similarly to Hannam had injury issues but has a precocious ability and is a low risk investment I think the game might have passed Lin Jong. Had potential (and was deceptively tall) but injuries at bad times didn’t help him. He was someone that needed the development to realise raw talent and he just didn’t get it. Quote
Kent 2,920 Posted November 4, 2020 Posted November 4, 2020 So any news regarding this trade? I hear cicardas Quote
old55 23,864 Posted November 4, 2020 Posted November 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, Kent said: So any news regarding this trade? I hear cicardas Dogs probably need to sort out their JUH picks. They've got 40 and 53. We might get 53 but more likely a future 3rd or 4th I think. Quote
Wiseblood 24,637 Posted November 4, 2020 Posted November 4, 2020 Just now, Pollyanna said: Dogs probably need to sort out their JUH picks. They've got 40 and 53. We might get 53 but more likely a future 3rd or 4th I think. Dogs also have the Dunkley stuff hanging over their heads as well. Hannan strikes me as a deal that will done on the final day with about 30 minutes to spare. 1 Quote
Kent 2,920 Posted November 4, 2020 Posted November 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Pollyanna said: Dogs probably need to sort out their JUH picks. They've got 40 and 53. We might get 53 but more likely a future 3rd or 4th I think. Difficult for me as I see something worthwhile in Jimmie but as many here have said doesn't bring it every week. I guess Pick 53 is enough. Quote
old55 23,864 Posted November 4, 2020 Posted November 4, 2020 15 minutes ago, Kent said: Difficult for me as I see something worthwhile in Jimmie but as many here have said doesn't bring it every week. I guess Pick 53 is enough. Yeah I rate him higher than a number of the fringe players but not high enough to offer him 3 years. Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,679 Posted November 4, 2020 Posted November 4, 2020 Yes we should push for pick 41 but it’s extremely likely that Dogs will only offer pick 54. Other tough option is to jump up 3rd rd pick and do Hannan + MFC pick 53 = Dogs pick 41. Quote
Sydee 4,684 Posted November 4, 2020 Posted November 4, 2020 Mitch is now worth more in the market than Jesse Hogan - wow how things change I rate Mitch and like him as a player - seems to have all the skills and physical characteristics to be a very good footballer but sadly never seems to get the ball enough and contribute consistently. Hence can see why a long term deal is difficult for the club - obviously WB's see things differently Hopefully letting him go doesn't turn into another Jeremy Howe :( 1 Quote
Lord Travis 10,819 Posted November 4, 2020 Posted November 4, 2020 Will likely be a future 3rd or 4th. 1 Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,679 Posted November 4, 2020 Posted November 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Lord Travis said: Will likely be a future 3rd or 4th. it’s just a spin of the coin Quote
Lord Travis 10,819 Posted November 4, 2020 Posted November 4, 2020 This will be a token trade to help out the player. We won't be getting much value for him. He was a pick 46 in 2017, we'll probably get a pick in the 50s back for him. Will always remember that running goal against the Cats in finals! 1 Quote
old55 23,864 Posted November 4, 2020 Posted November 4, 2020 28 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said: Yes we should push for pick 41 but it’s extremely likely that Dogs will only offer pick 54. Other tough option is to jump up 3rd rd pick and do Hannan + MFC pick 53 = Dogs pick 41. You seem to be totally ignoring that the Dogs need points for JUH. There is no way they're trading 41 unless they have sufficient points from somewhere. 1 Quote
old dee 24,083 Posted November 5, 2020 Posted November 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Wiseblood said: Dogs also have the Dunkley stuff hanging over their heads as well. Hannan strikes me as a deal that will done on the final day with about 30 minutes to spare. Spot on Wiseblood. I am always astounded at this time of the year how so many don't understand the process. Hannan is not that important in the scheme of things. 1 Quote
Bring-Back-Powell 15,555 Posted November 5, 2020 Posted November 5, 2020 Given that we're going to get bugger all for him, do we just delist him and let the Dogs pick him up for free as a delisted free agency. Don't we need to reduce our list size anyway? Quote
Redleg 42,179 Posted November 5, 2020 Posted November 5, 2020 43 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said: Given that we're going to get bugger all for him, do we just delist him and let the Dogs pick him up for free as a delisted free agency. Don't we need to reduce our list size anyway? Leave it to the experts, you may be surprised at the outcome. 3 Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,679 Posted November 5, 2020 Posted November 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Pollyanna said: You seem to be totally ignoring that the Dogs need points for JUH. There is no way they're trading 41 unless they have sufficient points from somewhere. Not ignoring just forget in this crazy world of picks and points. So likely future 3rd round is our best outcome. 1 Quote
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