POSTGAME: Rd 18 vs Essendon

[Farmer 889]

49 minutes ago, A F said:

Not quite true. I generally agree with @titan_uranus on Smith in that he's not a footballer, but he actually made a number of good spoils and rebounded off his man a number of times in the first three quarters. I wouldn't have him in my team, but he probably played his best defensive game ever today.

Pre season I heard one of those discussions with Plapp and Richardson in which they mentioned Smith’s “ freakish skills”. Then, in R1 v WC he went for a couple of speckies  and allowed easy goals . I think the “ freakishness” has been drummed out of him for this year. But I would persist.He is a lovely build and I think he is learning defence. He had some good moments v Cameron last week. He’s actually played v little footy 

[Dr. Gonzo 24,297]

Good to get the win especially against the Bombers

We played 1 quarter though!

Should've won by 10+ goals Essendon are trash

[Farmer 889]

55 minutes ago, Hogan2014 said:

Want trouble any side playing finals with fade outs like that to a bottom side once again.. same old issues & Goodwin can’t fix them... our fwd structures not working & can’t take a mark vs a bottom side taking marks & scoring, Weiderman goalless 4 games in a row 

U do realise this is only the 4th last quarter we have lost out of 17?

[DemonOX 8,800]

Thank god our season is over.

I was at the game and we STILL LOOKED TOTALLY CONFUSED, can’t hit targets, kick goals, don’t look in the centre when playing, always playing the boundary side, players casually jogging around and play is stop and start with no flow or system what so ever. 
 

Goodwin has to go. If he is there next season I hold NO HOPE that we will be any better. 
 

We look totally lost and don’t play as a team at all. I saw ONE shepherd all game. 
 

Not good enough. Bye bye Goodwin (I hope) 

Edited September 19, 2020 by DemonOX

[leave it to deever 17,517]

16 minutes ago, Farmer said:

That’s right Buzzy, have a shot at Goodwin.  If we don’t make finals we nevertheless win 9/8. Means Goody has a favourable win / loss ration three years out of 4. What were the coaching records  of Hardwick, Bomber Thompson  and even Clarkson after 4 years.

 

tell me  Buzzy and all you Goodwin knockers— what precisely is wrong with his  Coaching ? He  did  make one awful blunder in team selection for the Freo match but otherwise I’ve seen little wrong   And Buzzy you are not happy about Tomlinson.. I’m not excited either.But I’m VERY excited about Langdon, Jackson, Kosi and Rivers. If u want to blame Goodwin for Tomlinson how do you rate his other three selections . And I rate the fact that the players rate him

I certainly question his playing hunt and smith in defence and melksham playing at all.

His dog like determination in persisting with tmac instead of brown. Omac at anytime.

His gameplan in windy conditions and his dear in the headlight performances on the many times we are getting smashed like the freo game.

He hasnt got shocking win/loss ratio but if we are to believe most commentators and punduts we are a good team not living up to our talent. ( ie 2018 we were one game away from a gf.)

So we either an average group of players who most of us overate or Goody is not a mastercoach.

I know Essendon are a rabble but that 2nd quarter was a hark back to the prelim finalists we were not long ago. In saying that I think a fair ammount of failure has to land on the coach and the sub coaches he surrounds himself with.

 

[Dr. Gonzo 24,297]

7 minutes ago, Farmer said:

Pre season I heard one of those discussions with Plapp and Richardson in which they mentioned Smith’s “ freakish skills”. Then, in R1 v WC he went for a couple of speckies  and allowed easy goals . I think the “ freakishness” has been drummed out of him for this year. But I would persist.He is a lovely build and I think he is learning defence. He had some good moments v Cameron last week. He’s actually played v little footy 

He's not a footballer and should be off the list next year. Not even worth persisting with as depth.

[leave it to deever 17,517]

15 minutes ago, Pates said:

Still only 7 possessions (4 goals a great effort though), but his biggest issue is that when he goes missing he may as well be in another state. He needs to find the ball more, maybe that comes from be switched up a lot but whatever it is he doesn’t get enough of it. 

Was going to comment on his 7 possies as well but thought with 4 majors it just doesnt matter.

[Farmer 889]

2 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

He's not a footballer and should be off the list next year. Not even worth persisting with as depth.

Ok. So Plapp and Richardson know nothing?

[dl4e 5,851]

Well wait for tmrw evening. Ordinary game. Essendons bags were on the tarmac at the airport and that is how they played.

[Pates 9,660]

1 minute ago, leave it to deever said:

Was going to comment on his 7 possies as well but thought with 4 majors it just doesnt matter.

Don’t get me wrong, I’ll take a 7 possie 4 goal game from him every day of the week. That one in the final quarter in particular I liked because he backed his pace and finished well. 

[Farmer 889]

5 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

I certainly question his playing hunt and smith in defence and melksham playing at all.

His dog like determination in persisting with tmac instead of brown. Omac at anytime.

His gameplan in windy conditions and his dear in the headlight performances on the many times we are getting smashed like the freo game.

He hasnt got shocking win/loss ratio but if we are to believe most commentators and punduts we are a good team not living up to our talent. ( ie 2018 we were one game away from a gf.)

So we either an average group of players who most of us overate or Goody is not a mastercoach.

I know Essendon are a rabble but that 2nd quarter was a hark back to the prelim finalists we were not long ago. In saying that I think a fair ammount of failure has to land on the coach and the sub coaches he surrounds himself with.

 

And his recruiting of Langdon, Jackson, Kosi, Rivers. No credit for that?

[leave it to deever 17,517]

8 minutes ago, dl4e said:

Well wait for tmrw evening. Ordinary game. Essendons bags were on the tarmac at the airport and that is how they played.

They certainly left nothing in the tank in the final.

[doc roet 1,289]

1 minute ago, Farmer said:

And his recruiting of Langdon, Jackson, Kosi, Rivers. No credit for that?

So he's a recruiter now is he?

[leave it to deever 17,517]

7 minutes ago, Farmer said:

And his recruiting of Langdon, Jackson, Kosi, Rivers. No credit for that?

No on the contrary, I give him absolute bonus marks for them.

My comments are about the whole shebang.

If we dont play finals then I think my leaning towards putting blame on Goody has merit.

If we do then Ill apologise and be very happy.

 

[In Harmes Way 7,823]

Shout out to Nibbler for his goal in the second.

well deserved for keeping his eyes on the ball as the defender was running towards him flat out. Would have been shirt fronted in the 80’s, but was really brave of him I thought.

[chook fowler 19,546]

1 hour ago, Uncle Fester said:

Eddie is on my list of people I won’t brake for if the cross the road in front of my V8 truck

You know what will be the last thing to go through his mind when he hits the windscreen, don’t you

[Farmer 889]

2 minutes ago, doc roet said:

So he's a recruiter now is he?

Well Doc, he is being criticised for our recruiting of Tomlinson. I agree, it is irrational . But if he was wrong about To linson , and it’s only a partial disappointment,  Then he must get credit fot the other 4

[chook fowler 19,546]

For those criticising Eddie, be mindful that he is recovering from an Oro-rectal anastomosis

[Ethan Tremblay 30,966]

Why was Stringer wearing a fat suit under his jumper? 

[Dr.D 1,771]

19 minutes ago, DemonOX said:

Thank god our season is over.

I was at the game and we STILL LOOKED TOTALLY CONFUSED, can’t hit targets, kick goals, don’t look in the centre when playing, always playing the boundary side, players casually jogging around and play is stop and start with no flow or system what so ever. 
 

Goodwin has to go. If he is there next season I hold NO HOPE that we will be any better. 
 

We look totally lost and don’t play as a team at all. I saw ONE shepherd all game. 
 

Not good enough. Bye bye Goodwin (I hope) 

Everything you said is spot on.

Don't let anyone sell you blind hope. We are stuffed with Goodwin driving everything!

Out stoppage structure is completely out of whack and our ability to lock down is arguably getting worse!

[defuture15 900]

Don't understand the possess the ball without scoring game plan.

If you don't keep scoring you can't win. Is this a soccer defence based plan?

I would prefer a mix of the ballistic style and the possession style.

I guess we don't have the consistency yet to deliver a top 4 berth.

[In Harmes Way 7,823]

I thought this game mirrored our season really. Looked good in patches, looked flakey for extended periods in pretty much every game except vs Pies and Giants. Won the games we should have and were pretty much middle of the road as the ladder shows.

Its a shame because we’ve got more talent than our ladder position suggests. Definite improvement on last year (obviously) but I don’t think the condensed season and more travel than just about everybody coupled with no bye did us any favours.

[Jaded No More 68,974]

22 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Why was Stringer wearing a fat suit under his jumper? 

Now that his girlfriend is over 18, he doesn’t need to keep a tight body for her ? (I hate him so much. It’s personal ?)

[Bitter but optimistic 22,246]

43 minutes ago, DemonOX said:

Thank god our season is over.

I was at the game and we STILL LOOKED TOTALLY CONFUSED, can’t hit targets, kick goals, don’t look in the centre when playing, always playing the boundary side, players casually jogging around and play is stop and start with no flow or system what so ever. 
 

Goodwin has to go. If he is there next season I hold NO HOPE that we will be any better. 
 

We look totally lost and don’t play as a team at all. I saw ONE shepherd all game. 
 

Not good enough. Bye bye Goodwin (I hope) 

Was that the same game I watched on TV Ox?

[Earl Hood 6,101]

39 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

Was going to comment on his 7 possies as well but thought with 4 majors it just doesnt matter.

At least he can kick straight! That is worth gold in our side, first qtr we should have been 4.1 not 1.4. Missing so many set shots from 30 to 40 on slight angles just kills us.