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  On 06/09/2020 at 01:03, Bitter but optimistic said:

A truism no doubt.

However, it is the coach's responsibility to have players in the optimum shape before they go on the field to give them the maximum chance of doing the job.

This includes fitness, tactics, positions and attitude.

And selection in the first place Bbo

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      On 05/09/2020 at 11:35, Lord Travis said:

    Not many decent players left to come in. May as well start preparing for 2021. Even if we miraculously win all 3 remaining matches and make finals, we’re not going to do any damage.

    Give the Jordan, Bedford, Baker types a run.

    This, no good to keep recycling the same NQR's

      On 04/09/2020 at 06:44, nosoupforme said:

     Out Brayshaw   Jones    Harmes     All Injured     Smith  Wagner  OMac  Omitted.     Ins.  Bennell  Baker  TMac  VDB  Hibberd . Kossi

    A good 6 changes. Considering that 3 are compulsory.

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      On 06/09/2020 at 00:53, forever demons said:

    Sadly but true OD but liked the way Hore went about it

    Has only played 14 games, a bit harsh by some !

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      On 06/09/2020 at 00:30, Deemania since 56 said:

    He's a go-er! Has a little bit of mongrel at the ball. Doesn't chat with his opponents. Has a focus and tries very hard to achieve it. Must have a run - he is able to hold down CHB (ignore the height factor - Hardeman never had it) for at least half a game. Go for it, Hore!

    Sorry 56 Hire is a one trick pony and only a Jake Lever replacement.

    Whoever compared him with our CHB of the Century Gary Hardeman  has got to be Completely out of touch and no knowledge of the game!

    BTW Gary played about a third of games at CHF with aplomb and was as successful as Tommy Mac in 2018 over about 3 seasons.

    Could Hore do this NO unfortunately he is on the delist category with I fear Hannan Omac Chandler Nitschke and the wagners plus retirees Jets and Jonesy.

    AVB is contracted so may survive And Brown also is only contracted for 2020.

    Tommy Mac Melksham need to lift so Harmesy and Angus be more consistent.

    plenty of spots to trade and draft thank goodness fir Langers Kossie Jacko Riv and Tommo who will all be a revelation next year ( as Langers has been this year).

    My gut says we should get Ross Lyon on a 3 year deal and negotiate out Goody's contract and get a whole new team of assistant coaches and FD Manager. 

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    Jetta         Tmac         Rivers

    Lockhart   Lever         Hibberd

    Langford   AVB           Salem

    Viney         May           Trac

    Fritsch      Weid         Hannan

    Gawn Oliver Trac

    Pruess Bennel Dunkley Baker

     

     
      On 03/09/2020 at 08:59, Demonland said:

    Axe weilding time ...

    Look at the opposition, look at the desire and commitment of our players, select 


      On 06/09/2020 at 01:03, Bitter but optimistic said:

    A truism no doubt.

    However, it is the coach's responsibility to have players in the optimum shape before they go on the field to give them the maximum chance of doing the job.

    This includes fitness, tactics, positions and attitude.

    100% agree. 

    And the role coach in getting his players ready, be that for a whole season  or specific  clutch games or even quarters is the great intangible. 

    A related element us the ability of a ciach to firstly sell his/her system and get the required buy in and perhaps even more importantly explan and teach it so tve players know how to implement it. 

    It is a reasonable question to ask how well goody does this last element.

     

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    There will be 9 changes tomorrow. Possibly more with a ginger player or two having to get through training today.

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      On 06/09/2020 at 03:49, binman said:

    100% agree. 

    And the role coach in getting his players ready, be that for a whole season  or specific  clutch games or even quarters is the great intangible. 

    A related element us the ability of a ciach to firstly sell his/her system and get the required buy in and perhaps even more importantly explan and teach it so tve players know how to implement it. 

    It is a reasonable question to ask how well goody does this last element.

     

    In most sports competitors are trained to replicate certain actions without thought or instinctively.

    We have seen games where our players hit targets, stick tackles, run and apply pressure to a high level. In other games, all of these skills either disappear totally or are inept in their application.

    I'll grant that one or two players can have mares but with us it seems to be 3/4 of the team not doing the basics. Surely this is on the coach?

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      On 06/09/2020 at 04:23, Bitter but optimistic said:

    In most sports competitors are trained to replicate certain actions without thought or instinctively.

    We have seen games where our players hit targets, stick tackles, run and apply pressure to a high level. In other games, all of these skills either disappear totally or are inept in their application.

    I'll grant that one or two players can have mares but with us it seems to be 3/4 of the team not doing the basics. Surely this is on the coach?

    Well in the end it stops at his door.

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    Lucky that we dont have to travel so that should assist in players recovery but below would be my changes which hopefully will had some pace, skill, run and pressure!!

    Out:
    Brayshaw Jones Harmes OMAC Smith 

    In:
    Lockhart Hibberd Hannan Hunt Pickett

    Also dont mind the idea of May or Smith going forward again possibly depending how its playing out

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      On 06/09/2020 at 03:54, Tough Kent said:

    There will be 9 changes tomorrow. Possibly more with a ginger player or two having to get through training today.

    Your mail is usually quite good so don't doubt it.  Will be good to see the likes of baker (and Jordan?) get a go...at last.

    We know of 3 forced changes but 6 unforced?  Hardly a way to stabilise a team...?

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      On 06/09/2020 at 04:58, Lucifer's Hero said:

    Your mail is usually quite good so don't doubt it.  Will be good to see the likes of baker get a go...at last.

    We know of 3 forced changes so that is 6 unforced?  Hardly a way to stabilise a team...?

    I'm unsure of who is in and out. I do know that ANB has been named but needs to get through training with a sore hip. 

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      On 06/09/2020 at 04:58, Lucifer's Hero said:

    Your mail is usually quite good so don't doubt it.  Will be good to see the likes of baker get a go...at last.

    We know of 3 forced changes so that is 6 unforced?  Hardly a way to stabilise a team...?

    Why worry about stabilising the team at this point in the season LH, we won’t play finals so it’s probably more important to see if there is any future for a few. And could they Be  much worse than 5 or 6 who have given very little most weeks. 

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      On 06/09/2020 at 02:54, 58er said:

    Sorry 56 Hire is a one trick pony and only a Jake Lever replacement.

    Whoever compared him with our CHB of the Century Gary Hardeman  has got to be Completely out of touch and no knowledge of the game!

    BTW Gary played about a third of games at CHF with aplomb and was as successful as Tommy Mac in 2018 over about 3 seasons.

    Could Hore do this NO unfortunately he is on the delist category with I fear Hannan Omac Chandler Nitschke and the wagners plus retirees Jets and Jonesy.

    AVB is contracted so may survive And Brown also is only contracted for 2020.

    Tommy Mac Melksham need to lift so Harmesy and Angus be more consistent.

    plenty of spots to trade and draft thank goodness fir Langers Kossie Jacko Riv and Tommo who will all be a revelation next year ( as Langers has been this year).

    My gut says we should get Ross Lyon on a 3 year deal and negotiate out Goody's contract and get a whole new team of assistant coaches and FD Manager. 

    Forgive my gross ignorance. Thank you for straightening out my errant considerations. ?


      On 06/09/2020 at 01:11, old dee said:

    Agree a number never were but were carried along by the top ten, now 3- 4 of that 10 have dropped off or left and they now look like they always were, not good enough.

    A wilting at the vine, it seems.

     

    When asked who is in the frame for selection this week those mentioned by Goodwin were:  Baker, Hibberd, Jetta, Lockhart, Bedford, Preuss.

    Its anyone's guess who might come out other than Brayshaw, Harmes and Jones who are injured.

     

     
      On 06/09/2020 at 05:20, Lucifer's Hero said:

    When asked who is in the frame for selection this week those mentioned by Goodwin were:  Baker, Hibberd, Jetta, Lockhart, Bedford, Preuss.

    Its anyone's guess who might come out other than Brayshaw, Harmes and Jones who are injured.

     

    Have we seen the last of Jones and Brayshaw in the red and blue?  Two weeks out at this time of this season is the end of the season. Lh I would not be surprised to see Gawn rested, I don’t think he has recovered from his injury.

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    I don’t think it matters who comes in or out, that fact is we will get out coached by a 1st year coach


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