1990 what could have been

[Hogan2014 390]

1990 another elimination final 4th in a row & just couldn’t finish in the top 3 for a double chance . Only % seperate 2nd to 4th a very even year & we dropped games against lower placed teams. 

[Demonland 72,155]

 

[Demonland 72,155]

 

[Deestinga2 75]

I dont think anyone was going to beat Collingwood that year. Have a look back at the Filths team that year and it was pretty impressive.

 

[Hogan2014 390]

1 hour ago, Deestinga2 said:

I dont think anyone was going to beat Collingwood that year. Have a look back at the Filths team that year and it was pretty impressive.

 

We shot ourselves in the foot dropping games against bottom teams which was a consistent theme during that era & all other finals campaigns . Getting a double chance is a major thing eg 2000 we played a qualifying final then into a prelim & Gf. 2018 we dropped some dumb games & should have finished 4th. 

[Demonland 72,155]

I seem to recall that through the late 80s and early 90s we would always have a mid season slump before coming home strong. Probably cost us a flag.

[Demonland 72,155]

1 hour ago, Deestinga2 said:

I dont think anyone was going to beat Collingwood that year. Have a look back at the Filths team that year and it was pretty impressive.

We beat top of the table Essendon twice that year.

[Rab D Nesbitt 8,367]

Yup, that for me was definitely our best (worst?) missed opportunity. Pretty much everyone inside the club at the time were super confident that we'd see off Hawthorn in those back to back games and then getting the week off courtesy of the West Coast - Collingwood draw set everything up beautifully. Then we failed to turn up at Waverley against the Eagles. 

1990 was a free hit with no dominant force that year, unlike our two recent Grand Final appearances. I think it might also have been the year that big bad Billy Bennett kicked six at Windy Hill to see us storm home. 

[Diamond_Jim 12,568]

12 minutes ago, Rab D Nesbitt said:

1990 was a free hit with no dominant force that year, unlike our two recent Grand Final appearances.

So right !!!

[loges 6,767]

3 hours ago, Deestinga2 said:

I dont think anyone was going to beat Collingwood that year. Have a look back at the Filths team that year and it was pretty impressive.

 

No it was anybodies that year we should have at least played in the grand final.

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56 minutes ago, Rab D Nesbitt said:

Yup, that for me was definitely our best (worst?) missed opportunity. Pretty much everyone inside the club at the time were super confident that we'd see off Hawthorn in those back to back games and then getting the week off courtesy of the West Coast - Collingwood draw set everything up beautifully. Then we failed to turn up at Waverley against the Eagles. 

1990 was a free hit with no dominant force that year, unlike our two recent Grand Final appearances. I think it might also have been the year that big bad Billy Bennett kicked six at Windy Hill to see us storm home. 

Spot on, Re Essendon game, they kicked a goal at the 10 minute mark of the last to go 5 goals up and we won running away. Still remains my biggest disappointment to this day 1990. Great last quarter on youtube if you can find it.

[MyFavouriteMartian 572]

2 hours ago, Demonland said:

We beat top of the table Essendon twice that year.

The epitome of a hard draw for the Dees,  that year.  The way it paned out.

 

19 minutes ago, loges said:

Spot on, Re Essendon game, they kicked a goal at the 10 minute mark of the last to go 5 goals up and we won running away.

 

Still remains my biggest disappointment to this day 1990.

Great last quarter on youtube,  if you can find it.

Disappointments,  Dees.

 

All the work Barassi and Jordan, Barry Richardson, [censored] Seddon, et al.,  all did,  to rebuild the whole club,  only to find out  that,  1987, '88, 1990, and other seasons,  amounted to not a lot.

That that group did not come away with some AFL Silverware,  is almost an insult to that group of fine footy folk.

[Go the Biff 3,414]

31 minutes ago, loges said:

No it was anybodies that year we should have at least played in the grand final.

Agreed. Leigh Matthews himself has reflected that the 'Pies were not necessarily the best team that year. But that they played their best footy at the right time of the year. In my view our biggest missed opportunity

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[Bring-Back-Powell 14,817]

Does anyone have any re-collections of the Geelong V West Coast game rd 22 game that year?

Geelong lead for most of the day by about 4 goals at 3 qtr time but couldn't hold on in the finish.

Had Geelong hung on, we would've finished third, and played Collingwood at Waverley in week 1, whom we had a great recent finals record over.

The last quarter of the Geelong V WCE game was a bit of a sliding doors moment for us, in terms of how far we could've gone in 1990.

[Swooper1987 3,322]

Dropped rounds 13-15 before that comeback at Windy Hill.  Those losses were to also rans St Kilda, North Melbourne and Geelong. The North Melbourne loss was unforgivable and absolutely decimated our percentage. 10.13.73 to 31.14.200.  

[tiers 2,833]

Wasted. The week's rest due to the draw cost us both momentum and desire.

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1 hour ago, Swooper1987 said:

Dropped rounds 13-15 before that comeback at Windy Hill.  Those losses were to also rans St Kilda, North Melbourne and Geelong. The North Melbourne loss was unforgivable and absolutely decimated our percentage. 10.13.73 to 31.14.200.  

We also lost to Sydney in round 6 who were worse than woeful in the early 90’s.

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1 hour ago, tiers said:

Wasted. The week's rest due to the draw cost us both momentum and desire.

The disappointing thing tiers, the weeks rest should have played in our favour after a long season, also the game should have been played in Perth as West Coast finished above us, but because so many games had to be played in Melbourne, we got to play over here instead.

[Spud 288]

The thing many forget is that we also had a few knee reconstructions! Sean Wight, Steven Clark (who was flying at that time) Trevor Spencer. Brian Wilson missed with Hammys, Alan Johnson  missed most of the year and the mid season debacle saw Stuart Cameron and Robert Hickmott (now a Melbourne cup winning trainer) get guernseys after being depleted with injury, the fact we saw no more of them suggests we were undermanned (John Longmire kicks 14 against you, there is something wrong).

Geelong led by 6 goals just before 3/4 time in the last game and we led by 10 goals, if they stayed in front or we had won by that margin (instead of falling in) we would of got the double chance. I agree that was the year we blew it (and maybe 98).

[markc 975]

remember this game well , went to ground without  ticket and ran into a mate that had a spare right behind the goals, sat around hawthorn people .. they didnt overly like me at the end ! 

 

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14 hours ago, Spud said:

Geelong led by 6 goals just before 3/4 time in the last game 

Very disappointing that Geelong blew that lead against West Coast in rd 22 as we would've got the double chance.

But as others have mentioned, we only had ourselves to blame as we lost to a bunch of ordinary (Geelong, St Kilda,) or downright horrible (Sydney) sides that year.

We also only beat woeful sides by 2-3 goals at home against Brisbane and Fitzroy when we would've gone in as raging favorites.

Sounds like we had a problem with complacency that year which was summed up perfectly by blowing it all against West Coast in the semi final in front of our fans.

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16 hours ago, Swooper1987 said:

Dropped rounds 13-15 before that comeback at Windy Hill.  Those losses were to also rans St Kilda, North Melbourne and Geelong. The North Melbourne loss was unforgivable and absolutely decimated our percentage. 10.13.73 to 31.14.200.  

North actually went on a 9-2 run from round 10 that year and unfortunately we copped them right in the middle of that run, and Longmire and Carey would've been at the top of their game.

But yes, to concede 200 point is unacceptable in anyone's language.

[Tony Tea 2,809]

When we got flogged by Norf, John Longmire was only 19 yo but kicked 14 and our percentage went from 119 to 106. A typical Demonesque loss. What's more, the Norf loss dropped us from 3rd to 4th but despite winning 7 of the last 9 games we stayed anchored in 4th place even though we cracked 16 wins.

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[Tony Tea 2,809]

I had thought we blew 1990 by losing to cellar dwellers, but the six games we lost were mostly against respectable sides. Hawthorn (5th), Collingwood (2nd but eventual premier), North (6th) and St Kilda (9th) all played good footy. Geelong (10th) had a poor year amidst good years. The Sydney (13th) loss, by 5 points after kicking badly, and the hammered percentage against North were crucial. 

[Dr. Gonzo 24,207]

On 4/28/2020 at 1:01 PM, Deestinga2 said:

I dont think anyone was going to beat Collingwood that year. Have a look back at the Filths team that year and it was pretty impressive.

 

Disagree, Starcevich at CHF and Manson at Full Forward. We had kicked them out if finals the last 2 years no reason we wouldn't have done it again if given the opportunity.

They were a good side but far from unbeatable