Robbo & Green Review the 2000 Qualifying Final

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[Demon Disciple 11,153]

That goal from Green from the left pocket. Never looked like missing!

[pineapple dee 2,892]

41 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

That goal from Green from the left pocket. Never looked like missing!

No it didn't ! One of Green's first games for the club. A big lump of a bloke shepherded away a Carlton defender about to smother Green's kick. That was David Schwartz. 

The last 15 minutes of that game was the most fun I've ever had watching the dees play. 

Watching the bitter tears of the Carlton fans around me after the siren was just beautiful. 

 

[Hogan2014 390]

Coming back from 21points & watching the Carlton fans in disbelief was awesome. 
 

Daniher got the best out that side considering Melb had the worst training facilities at the Junction oval along with their preseason done across multiple venues & using plastic cones for goal posts! 
Team unity/chemistry is everything! 

[TGR 1,367]

Probably the best game of football I have seen from a supporter viewpoint.

Brad Green was and should have been an elite forward.  The leading and kicking skills of this teenager was unbelievable.

Daniher achieved plenty with a lot of ballast, but gee wiz, his rotation policy (12 max per game) was really the stuff of the 1960s and 70s.

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1 hour ago, pineapple dee said:

No it didn't ! One of Green's first games for the club. A big lump of a bloke shepherded away a Carlton defender about to smother Green's kick. That was David Schwartz. 

The last 15 minutes of that game was the most fun I've ever had watching the dees play. 

Watching the bitter tears of the Carlton fans around me after the siren was just beautiful. 

 

Yep, the same big lump of a bloke who was five metres away from a coward punch on Brad Green

Wallis just kept punching our blokes all day and he did nothing

[dieter 3,325]

8 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

Yep, the same big lump of a bloke who was five metres away from a coward punch on Brad Green

Wallis just kept punching our blokes all day and he did nothing

The whole team surrendered that day. I wonder if Schwarz was aware. I doubt it....

9 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

Yep, the same big lump of a bloke who was five metres away from a coward punch on Brad Green

Wallis just kept punching our blokes all day and he did nothing

What horrified me that day was that the savagery and brutality was akin to colosseum  days. The day Wallis punched the crap out of Green Hardwick was holding him wide open to the punches. I don't call that sport...

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37 minutes ago, dieter said:

The whole team surrendered that day. I wonder if Schwarz was aware. I doubt it....

What horrified me that day was that the savagery and brutality was akin to colosseum  days. The day Wallis punched the crap out of Green Hardwick was holding him wide open to the punches. I don't call that sport...

He was there when Wallis' punch nearly cracked Brad Green's larynx

He remonstrated for about two seconds

Even Neitz failed to stand up that day 

[jumbo returns 6,598]

Trapper was amazing that day

[Dr. Gonzo 22,697]

1 hour ago, jumbo returns said:

Yep, the same big lump of a bloke who was five metres away from a coward punch on Brad Green

Wallis just kept punching our blokes all day and he did nothing

He was the only one who even tried to fly the flag. Gave Hird a bodyslam from memory though was all a bit late.

[Dr. Gonzo 22,697]

Cam Bruce stood up big for us in the last quarter of the QF as well

"The rookie! The rookie!"

I concur with the comments above, one of my favourite and most enjoyable days at the footy. We've beaten the Blues in some memorable games in my time, 88 PF, 94 QF and 2000 QF not to mention ruining their occasion in the last match at Princes Park

I remember all the stunned Blues supporters around us that day as we rolled over them in the last quarter. When the siren went I was walking out up the aisle just yelling out "we're going to the Granny! We're going to the Granny!" which I knew we would after cementing the week off

 

Edited April 16, 2020 by Dr. Gonzo

[george_on_the_outer 7,084]

I was wondering whether Brad still had that shirt from his days at Melbourne or did someone drag it out of the back room for the interview?

 

[BAMF 3,812]

4 hours ago, jumbo returns said:

Yep, the same big lump of a bloke who was five metres away from a coward punch on Brad Green

Wallis just kept punching our blokes all day and he did nothing

not how i recall it. In fact he was the only one I really remember flying the flag.

[Demon Disciple 11,153]

4 hours ago, dieter said:

The whole team surrendered that day. I wonder if Schwarz was aware. I doubt it....

What horrified me that day was that the savagery and brutality was akin to colosseum  days. The day Wallis punched the crap out of Green Hardwick was holding him wide open to the punches. I don't call that sport...

At least Hardwick & Wallis had the decency to do it to a player looking at them.

[censored] Michael Long just about decapitated poor Troy Simmonds who was bending over to pick up the ball. Hero Long decided to try and snap his neck off. Gutless. Weak. Dog Act.

I rarely harbour a grudge on a personal level, but i cannot fathom how any decent human being could forgive that pr!ck. Hope the fat [censored] will one day get a taste of his own medicine.

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,194]

3 hours ago, george_on_the_outer said:

I was wondering whether Brad still had that shirt from his days at Melbourne or did someone drag it out of the back room for the interview?

 

Old interview I think as Robbo said at the end that he hopes to see Green in the finals again before he’s through.

 

[MyFavouriteMartian 572]

4 hours ago, jumbo returns said:

He was there when Wallis' punch nearly cracked Brad Green's larynx

He remonstrated for about two seconds

Even Neitz failed to stand up that day 

Melbourne doesn't like to play finals type footy,  which is very aggressive footy. The Bombers came to play,  and came to Win.

And they brought their  'A'  game with them,  on the day.  AGGRESSION.

 

No on can blame them for giving everything they had,  to win the game. And they did.

[MyFavouriteMartian 572]

36 minutes ago, BAMF said:

not how i recall it. In fact he was the only one I really remember flying the flag.

It's difficult to fly the flag stiffly,    when no one else does that.that whole team lacked starch across the 20 players. 

About half a dozen players had the 'balls' to back themselves up in that list.    No where near enough starch, for a Flag tilt.

 

Typical Melbourne,  post Smith era.

Checker and Smith teams would not allow oppositions to run all over them Physically.  We are too nice as a club. to a fault.

[John Demonic 4,944]

One of the best games ive ever seen us win alongside the 94 win against Carlton with my dad. I find that bitter sweet though, as its kind of embarrassing that these are the quintessential wins of my 30 years barracking, and no grand final wins etc

10 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Cam Bruce stood up big for us in the last quarter of the QF as well

"The rookie! The rookie!"

I concur with the comments above, one of my favourite and most enjoyable days at the footy. We've beaten the Blues in some memorable games in my time, 88 PF, 94 QF and 2000 QF not to mention ruining their occasion in the last match at Princes Park

I remember all the stunned Blues supporters around us that day as we rolled over them in the last quarter. When the siren went I was walking out up the aisle just yelling out "we're going to the Granny! We're going to the Granny!" which I knew we would after cementing the week off

 

Stunned to put it mildly, a fight broke out on the ponsford upper level after the siren. I assume it was a livid blue not used to having a finals win not served up on a silver platter and a gloating demon fan giving it to them after they prob gave it to them all 1dt half

6 hours ago, MyFavouriteMartian said:

It's difficult to fly the flag stiffly,    when no one else does that.that whole team lacked starch across the 20 players. 

About half a dozen players had the 'balls' to back themselves up in that list.    No where near enough starch, for a Flag tilt.

 

Typical Melbourne,  post Smith era.

Checker and Smith teams would not allow oppositions to run all over them Physically.  We are too nice as a club. to a fault.

We had a ceiling that was well below EFC unless we learnt how to FLOOD them, which in retrospect, we shouldve done. 

We were beneath them as a collective and did not have enough football talent to negate any physicality they imposed. I mean with all due respect to our defense, but does:

26 Daniel Ward	27 Anthony Ingerson	44 Alistair Nicholson
HB:	42 Peter Walsh	28 Matthew Collins	21 Steven Febey

Look at all like a premiership defense? Honest battlers that give it their all, but were blown out of the water. I know our forwards didnt give much of a yelp, but they were simply matched up well with a competent defense. And our mids gave it their all too but we just could not stem the tide when they had too much strength on every line inspite of any thuggery

Out gunned pure and simple, nothing to do with balls. You dont get to a GF without balls.

Edited April 16, 2020 by John Demonic

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I would have liked that interview to go for another 10 minutes or so, to short by far.................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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11 hours ago, BAMF said:

not how i recall it. In fact he was the only one I really remember flying the flag.

He did nothing

Watch the game again (if you can put yourself through the angst)

[MyFavouriteMartian 572]

5 hours ago, John Demonic said:

One of the best games ive ever seen us win alongside the 94 win against Carlton with my dad. I find that bitter sweet though, as its kind of embarrassing that these are the quintessential wins of my 30 years barracking, and no grand final wins etc

Stunned to put it mildly, a fight broke out on the ponsford upper level after the siren. I assume it was a livid blue not used to having a finals win not served up on a silver platter and a gloating demon fan giving it to them after they prob gave it to them all 1dt half

We had a ceiling that was well below EFC unless we learnt how to FLOOD them, which in retrospect, we shouldve done. 

We were beneath them as a collective and did not have enough football talent to negate any physicality they imposed. I mean with all due respect to our defense, but does:

26 Daniel Ward	27 Anthony Ingerson	44 Alistair Nicholson
HB:	42 Peter Walsh	28 Matthew Collins	21 Steven Febey

Look at all like a premiership defense? Honest battlers that give it their all, but were blown out of the water. I know our forwards didnt give much of a yelp, but they were simply matched up well with a competent defense. And our mids gave it their all too but we just could not stem the tide when they had too much strength on every line inspite of any thuggery

Out gunned pure and simple, nothing to do with balls. You dont get to a GF without balls.

Yes most of that is true, But...

Teams love it when they play Melbourne.  Why.?   IMO, because we play 'nice'.   Front runners (our lack of defencive pressure),  and bruise free is too often the way.   When we've had it on a platter we fire up.   When the tough stuff was about, we'd get sheepish and distracted. 

I think this nature is a reflection of the majority of our support base,  and so the players reflect this in there playing style. They are wildly applauded for playing clean heels footy.  But our hard dirty work is met with subtle quiet praise. Or sometimes condemnation by the unease of our support base.

 

Other clubs roar approval for their players when they do some heavy work.  And those opposition players reflect that approval in their style.

 

How many coaches recently have said they would make us Melbourne, a hard team to play against...?   Because they know of our reputation as a club.  And why we always have to  re-earn the respect,  after having lost it once again.  These are our 'spots',  Pre Checker and post Smithy,  and Pre Barassi and post Northey.

We should never ever go back to playing like  'Fuscias',  again.

Edited April 17, 2020 by MyFavouriteMartian

[MyFavouriteMartian 572]

5 hours ago, John Demonic said:

Out gunned pure and simple, nothing to do with balls. You dont get to a GF without balls.

Plenty of teams have got there without balls. (too nice as pie)  But few have won the day.

Edited April 17, 2020 by MyFavouriteMartian

[Hogan2014 390]

The premiership clocks we had 87-91 , 94, 98-2006 we lacked the polish vs the premiership sides, though 94 I’d say our spine was the strongest with Lyon, Schwartz , Neitz , Stynes, Jackovich, Tingay , Lovell , but in 95 we were decimated with injuries  & many never returned Bottom line in the last 30 yrs club hasn’t been able to sustain success long enough & improve the list enough in those premiership clocks, 2019 is just another example!
 

 

Edited April 17, 2020 by Hogan2014

[Demon Disciple 11,153]

If we had Northey as coach now, i'd dare say that we would give it a real good shake over the next few years.

[jumbo returns 6,598]

1 hour ago, Hogan2014 said:

The premiership clocks we had 87-91 , 94, 98-2006 we lacked the polish vs the premiership sides, though 94 I’d say our spine was the strongest with Lyon, Schwartz , Neitz , Stynes, Jackovich, Tingay , Lovell , but in 95 we were decimated with injuries  & many never returned Bottom line in the last 30 yrs club hasn’t been able to sustain success long enough & improve the list enough in those premiership clocks, 2019 is just another example!
 

 

And we kept on running into the effen Hawks!