2 hours ago, Mach5 said:

Out of touch with the common supporter; out of touch with the people on the ground; out of touch with reality...

Growth and sustained success don’t just happen as a byproduct of winning matches. You need to invest time and resources ahead of time so that you can capitalise on the on-field successes.

There is a startling gap in the club’s thinking where there should be detailed strategies and tactics to convert success to increased membership and revenue.

I have heard all this for the last 40 odd years about every board and CEO by disgruntled supporters who think they know better. I am not saying improvement is not required off field as it most certainly is, as any major sporting club is to keep afloat.

47 minutes ago, Mach5 said:

 

You’re wrong - it’s not available to read or watch, as it simply doesn’t exist.

It’s great that’s you volunteer your time & energy to the club (alongside myself at one point, funnily enough although you won’t remember), but you’re too keen to be a club apologist. We have opportunities staring us in the face, but we’re putting them in the “too-much-effort basket” or even failing to recognise them at all, and in the same instance giving other clubs a free hit to capitalise where we could be evening the ledger.

 

Mate, for crying out loud, put up or shut up. These allegations your making towards the club have so far been completely unsubstantiated so until you provide any shred of evidence of what’s going on internally then why should anyone believe you?

I mean it’s not like you have information that will lead to the arrest of Hillary Clinton or anything...

1 hour ago, old dee said:

Saty I guarantee you my details are correct in the system, I got the PR stuff this morning.

A serious question. Has the club ever made a mistake In your opinion?

Of course the club has made mistakes but the sheer pettiness of some of the posts on here astounds/amuses me, it's just the AGM, information provided post event

Australia Post is appalling, if you have a registered email with the club, you would not receive the notification by post

5 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

I have heard all this for the last 40 odd years about every board and CEO by disgruntled supporters who think they know better. I am not saying improvement is not required off field as it most certainly is, as any major sporting club is to keep afloat.

Well put, so have I, hands up if you can do a better job and why haven't you

But, but, but

1 minute ago, Satyriconhome said:

Well put, so have I, hands up if you can do a better job and why haven't you

But, but, but

Happens all the time.

3 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

Then I must have spent two afternoons putting blank pieces of paper into envelopes 

 

Then you need to improve on your envelope licking, as you missed mine and numerous others 

Edited February 18, 20205 yr by Moonshadow

1 hour ago, nacnud said:

Mate, for crying out loud, put up or shut up. These allegations your making towards the club have so far been completely unsubstantiated so until you provide any shred of evidence of what’s going on internally then why should anyone believe you?

I mean it’s not like you have information that will lead to the arrest of Hillary Clinton or anything...

 

You’re right mate, everything is fine, we’re completely on track.

 

3 hours ago, Mach5 said:

Out of touch with the common supporter; out of touch with the people on the ground; out of touch with reality...

Growth and sustained success don’t just happen as a byproduct of winning matches. You need to invest time and resources ahead of time so that you can capitalise on the on-field successes.

There is a startling gap in the club’s thinking where there should be detailed strategies and tactics to convert success to increased membership and revenue.

C’mon @Mach5 you need to put up what you either know first hand or have been told by a solid source. 
you are obviously close to the inner workings of Jeelong over the years, to a point. If it is a similar situation at The MFC, then at least drip feed some info. 
At the moment you are just throwing punches at Pert. Now your reaction may turn out to be correct in time, but without  solid information it doesn’t stick. 
 

i like the 4 year plan, i want it to work. 
If it doesn’t, Bartlett, Pert and the Board must walk the plank ?‍☠️ 

Goodwin has to perform this year

But it is up to the Members and Supporters to hold them to account. 
we were given a Template last night. 
About Bloody time i say

Edited February 18, 20205 yr by Sir Why You Little

29 minutes ago, Mach5 said:

 

You’re right mate, everything is fine, we’re completely on track.

 

I'm not saying we're on the right track mate, I'm saying that you still haven't substantiated any of your claims....

1 hour ago, Satyriconhome said:

Well put, so have I, hands up if you can do a better job and why haven't you

But, but, but

 

1 hour ago, Moonshadow said:

Then you need to improve on your envelope licking, ayous you missed mine and  n a eminumerous others 

Has the club got your email? if so you got it alright the email, with the thousands of email anyone gets these days it's easy to miss it or accidentally delete it,same with if you got it in the post you most likely threw it out without looking at it, like me and many many people have done hundreds of times with letters,I think the ones that say they didn't get it are just liars MFC SS members who like to complain about everything.

1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

C’mon @Mach5 you need to put up what you either know first hand or have been told by a solid source. 
you are obviously close to the inner workings of Jeelong over the years, to a point. If it is a similar situation at The MFC, then at least drip feed some info. 
At the moment you are just throwing punches at Pert. Now your reaction may turn out to be correct in time, but without  solid information it doesn’t stick. 
 

i like the 4 year plan, i want it to work. 
If it doesn’t, Bartlett, Pert and the Board must walk the plank ?‍☠️ 

Goodwin has to perform this year

But it is up to the Members and Supporters to hold them to account. 
we were given a Template last night. 
About Bloody time i say

Fully agree swyl

59 minutes ago, don't make me angry said:

 

Has the club got your email? if so you got it alright the email, with the thousands of email anyone gets these days it's easy to miss it or accidentally delete it,same with if you got it in the post you most likely threw it out without looking at it, like me and many many people have done hundreds of times with letters,I think the ones that say they didn't get it are just liars MFC SS members who like to complain about everything.

You are wrong with all of your spurious assumptions, as usual.

Not to mention clearly obsessed with the term MFCSS. I don't even think you understand it's real meaning.

44 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

Fully agree swyl

Cool.
The Club has put its balls on the Line. I have wanted this sort of commitment for years. 
we now have it

29 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

You are wrong with all of your spurious assumptions, as usual.

Not to mention clearly obsessed with the term MFCSS. I don't even think you understand it's real meaning.

Seems like we are liars Mr. Shadow. 

1 hour ago, Moonshadow said:

You are wrong with all of your spurious assumptions, as usual.

Not to mention clearly obsessed with the term MFCSS. I don't even think you understand it's real meaning.

it's funny how it's the same people that keep on slagging on the club about everything isn't it,the meaning of MFcss is somebody that's always negative and always ready to pot the club about very little things.

3 hours ago, Mach5 said:

You’re right mate, everything is fine, we’re completely on track.

Diversion. Neither a response nor a refutation.

It's intriguing how some people find the black cloud in every silver lining.

12 hours ago, george_on_the_outer said:

No use complaining about the lack of notification. 

As others have already shown, it has been emailed to members, it has been on the club website and worst of all ( which I brought up in question time) was that 9,000 members ( I think that was the number) were sent mailed notifications, because they didn't have an email address.  It cost 4 days of packing from volunteers and $1 to post each of them. 

And guess what, probably only 150 people turned up. 

You're right George - there is no use complaining about the lack of notification. You're right it was emailed to members and on the website (not that i saw it). I checked my email and i received it 17 December last year (but hadn't opened it). I did not receive a proxy form in the mail. 

If in my case if i was hell bent on going i would have made sure i knew the date. It's great that you, Saty, Cbd and others made the effort. My bad for not being as switched on.

Be that as it may i still maintain the club could have done a better job of alerting  members given the limited information they did provide was in the shadows of XMAS and two and half months ago. I mean i receive emails about insurance, paint and expensive cars all the time from the club. One more email flagging the AGM a week out wouldn't of hurt. Or a tweet, or reminder on the website. I have gone previously precisely because of such a reminder. How hard would that be? Not hard obviously.

It would be easy to conclude they were not super keen to have many members there.

It's particularly strange they didn't put any further information out other than their pre xmas comms or make any real effort to promote it given they were launching their new strategic plan. I would have thought they would want as many members as possible there for the launch of such an important document.

Edited February 18, 20205 yr by binman

13 hours ago, don't make me angry said:

I suspect you really didn't want to go, but saw it as a  opportunity the pot the club

You do do you. That's interesting to know.

Because i have such a record on demonland of potting the club.

That will come as a surprise to the posters who  suggested i work for the club and am a MFC plant on this site, such was my supposedly happy clapper blind defence of the club and push back against those actually potting the club last season (see the sack the Goodwin thread, which has thankfully gone into remission). 

It might come as surprise to you angry, but is possible to hold disparate and sometimes seemingly contradictory opinions. I can support the club, think the FD and coaches are dong a good job, think the board is stable and effective etc etc  AND think the communication from the club is poor and a cause for concern. 

2 hours ago, don't make me angry said:

it's funny how it's the same people that keep on slagging on the club about everything isn't it,the meaning of MFcss is somebody that's always negative and always ready to pot the club about very little things.

Find another post where I've "slagged" the club? If it's "the same people" all the time you shouldn't have a problem finding another one from me in, say, the last month or 2.

And FYI, MFCSS relates to Melbourne supporters falling back into pessimism. Got nothing to do with always being ready to pot the club. 

So you are wrong again. Give up pal.

9 hours ago, old dee said:

I can guarantee you this member did not get proxy forms by snail mail or email at any time prior to this AGM. 

Me neither od

39 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Me neither od

It will probably surprise you to know Dr that we are all liers. 

10 minutes ago, old dee said:

It will probably surprise you to know Dr that we are all liers. 

And liars too!

2 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

And liars too!

Touché Mr Shadow.

9 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

Then you need to improve on your envelope licking, as you missed mine and numerous others 

I work in an industry that still utilises mail, we have RTS coz the postman put in wrong box, address had a slight error in the database etc etv also it was stolen from the letterbox 

The point some other posters are trying to point out is even if there is a slight error in anything the club does, the usual suspects are immediately in the topic hammering the club

Infallibility must be a wonderful thing