Training Ground?

[old dee 23,872]

4 minutes ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

The board should look at Toorak Park. Right next to a train station in Demon Heartland. I’ve seen people bemoan the fact there is no parking there, but there is  just as much around that precinct as there is at Victoria Park and Moorabbin. 
 

Several years ago the Dees experimented with midweek training nights there and it was a huge success. Its redevelopment would benefit the community and could be used by Prahran juniors and women’s teams. These are the things that underpin the likelihood of government funding. 
 

Also, there is a great pub next to the ground. 

It's not big enough the playing area i.e. and no room for development. And just to top it off the council does not want us there.

[Kick_It_To_Pickett 3,293]

3 minutes ago, old dee said:

It's not big enough the playing area i.e. and no room for development. And just to top it off the council does not want us there.

What about Brunswick St Oval then? Surrounded by a park and a Bowls Club. City of Yarra seem to have embraced the development of Victoria Park

[Hellish Inferno 992]

Has Albert Park been discussed before?

[old dee 23,872]

5 minutes ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

What about Brunswick St Oval then? Surrounded by a park and a Bowls Club. City of Yarra seem to have embraced the development of Victoria Park

At the risk of being boring it ain't near the G.

[Half forward flank 1,022]

6 minutes ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

What about Brunswick St Oval then? Surrounded by a park and a Bowls Club. City of Yarra seem to have embraced the development of Victoria Park

No chance. Vic park is a community recreation area, nothing to do  with a footy club. 

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

5 hours ago, daisycutter said:

true, but boy, greenvale to casey is not just a drive, it's a flipping expedition!

So don’t live in Greenvale.

[Kick_It_To_Pickett 3,293]

15 minutes ago, old dee said:

At the risk of being boring it ain't near the G.

It’s pretty darn close. 
 

about 45 minutes and 35 kms closer than Casey.

Edited March 7, 2021 by Kick_It_To_Pickett

[MT64 1,144]

31 minutes ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

The board should look at Toorak Park. Right next to a train station in Demon Heartland. I’ve seen people bemoan the fact there is no parking there, but there is  just as much around that precinct as there is at Victoria Park and Moorabbin. 
 

Several years ago the Dees experimented with midweek training nights there and it was a huge success. Its redevelopment would benefit the community and could be used by Prahran juniors and women’s teams. These are the things that underpin the likelihood of government funding. 
 

Also, there is a great pub next to the ground. 

I personally would be very happy with this move as I live in Rose Street just three minutes walk. Within a block I have met 12 neighbours who follow Melbourne. By the way the pub has closed permanently.

[monoccular 17,573]

On 5/21/2020 at 7:45 PM, picket fence said:

I cannot understand this, Why wouldn't Hawks go back to Heartland and redevelop Glenferrie Oval?? Beautiful patch of grass and conveniently placed Dingley??? WTF

Glenferrie Oval was a misshaped sardine tin,  the main reason Hawthorn left there in the 1960s. 

On 5/22/2020 at 10:54 PM, Diamond_Jim said:

why not ??

Pies moved from Vic Park

Bombers moved from Windy Hill

Hawks moved from Glenferrie

etc etc etc

South Melbourne moved from South Melbourne ....... to Sydney

Fitzroy from Brunswick Street ..... to the Junction Oval, then eventually on to Brisbane 

[Half forward flank 1,022]

32 minutes ago, old dee said:

It's not big enough the playing area i.e. and no room for development. And just to top it off the council does not want us there.

Wet blanket. When there is a will, there is a way. Councils change with the times and look at inclusive community submissions. 

[Cards13 9,117]

7 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I wanted to bring this back up on the AGM thread as it was an active discussion around our training base. As it stands the men's will be training out at Casey for the year. I've had my own opinion about this and I've felt that this simply cannot be a viable long term option because one of the key reason will be the struggle of attracting future recruits because of the distance etc. I have reasons but a lot have already covered it off in thr AGM thread.

Interesting I was reading an article on Shaun McKernan just then and found this bit interesting around our obvious interest in him last year. Now I'm not saying that I'm spewing we missed out on him etc, but I do worry that by trying to attract big name players, this could be one of the key hurdles that may potentially effect us.

He had a choice of his third AFL club, with Melbourne also showing interest in McKernan at the end of last season.

He said the call to pick the Saints was ultimately based around location, with McKernan reluctant to travel every day from his home in Greenvale to the Dees’ base at Casey Fields.

“It wasn’t anything to do with Melbourne. I had a pretty good chat with Goody [coach Simon Goodwin]

“I told him it’s got nothing to do with where the club’s at, just really a personal decision.”

It’s not just for the year, it’s “forever” from my take from Pert/Bartlett interviews over the last year.
Casey is the MCG sized training ground and any city ground is Docklands sized ground. 

Some players will be fine with it and others not, just like players who don’t want to travel to Dingley or Tullamarine or far western Sydney. 
 

Also the club has been pretty clear they’ve looked at all options within the inner Melb precinct via working groups, it’s not like they’ve missed an oval or 6 to explore... 

Edited March 7, 2021 by Cards13

[whatwhat say what 22,943]

1 hour ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

The board should look at Toorak Park. Right next to a train station in Demon Heartland. I’ve seen people bemoan the fact there is no parking there, but there is  just as much around that precinct as there is at Victoria Park and Moorabbin. 
 

Several years ago the Dees experimented with midweek training nights there and it was a huge success. Its redevelopment would benefit the community and could be used by Prahran juniors and women’s teams. These are the things that underpin the likelihood of government funding. 

i asked peter jackson at the time whether it was being considered as an option

as @old dee said, it was ruled out as an option due to no room to grow, existing infrastructure in place needing a complete re-do, and stonnington council being, well, stonnington council

[Hellish Inferno 992]

The club could partner up with some kind of organisation to generate funds, create interest and added value in terms of community benefit to outweigh any challenges with building on public parkland or removing trees. Would be a good sell. I heard that Apple stores have a good track record.

Or what about Brewmanity through Neita, if we develop a home training base with a micro-brewery business on the side. Gotta find a way to replace that gaming revenue...

[BDA 22,875]

If the MCG precinct falls over then we should look at Fisherman’s bend. Absolutely ripe for development and centrally located. 

 

[Lord Nev 13,512]

We can pretty much guarantee all these ovals everyone is listing have been investigated somewhat by the club already. There's not going to be an 'aha' moment for Pert and co while perusing Demonland.

It's going to be either a redeveloped/rejigged Gosch's configuration or it will be Casey.

 

[Half forward flank 1,022]

6 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

We can pretty much guarantee all these ovals everyone is listing have been investigated somewhat by the club already. There's not going to be an 'aha' moment for Pert and co while perusing Demonland.

It's going to be either a redeveloped/rejigged Gosch's configuration or it will be Casey.

 

I agree LN and I think there will be a lot of underwhelmed supporters when the hand I think they have known abouut for a long time is revealed. 

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Link admin + SC  facilities in with this:

https://www.austadiums.com/news/649/mcg-southern-stand-set-for-redevelopment-within-next-decade

Upgrade goshes to dock lands oval size, train there predominantly.

Negotiate training in season on MCG once per week.

 

[BlackAttack 10]

Not sure if it’s been mentioned but Caulfield racecourse could be an option. 
 

Horse training it set to cease at the racecourse in 2023 and then redeveloped into a local sporting precinct. 
 

Basically in the heartland of our supporter base, I think it could be good to have the club within the local sporting community of the area.
 

https://turfmate.com.au/sporting-clubs-could-be-playing-at-caulfield-racecourse/

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3 hours ago, Half forward flank said:

I agree LN and I think there will be a lot of underwhelmed supporters when the hand I think they have known abouut for a long time is revealed. 

That's an understatement HFF. If we end up in Casey Bartlett and this board will be run out of town

[Chelly 827]

12 hours ago, Hellish Inferno said:

Has Albert Park been discussed before?

No good - clubs are kicked off for about a month before, after and during the Grand Prix.

[The Jackson FIX 3,210]

53 minutes ago, BlackAttack said:

Not sure if it’s been mentioned but Caulfield racecourse could be an option. 
 

Horse training it set to cease at the racecourse in 2023 and then redeveloped into a local sporting precinct. 
 

Basically in the heartland of our supporter base, I think it could be good to have the club within the local sporting community of the area.
 

https://turfmate.com.au/sporting-clubs-could-be-playing-at-caulfield-racecourse/

How many heartlands do we have?

[Kick_It_To_Pickett 3,293]

12 hours ago, MT64 said:

I personally would be very happy with this move as I live in Rose Street just three minutes walk. Within a block I have met 12 neighbours who follow Melbourne. By the way the pub has closed permanently.

Has it? I knew it shut down and then reopened. Perfect opportunity to buy the pub too then haha. There’s your social club ?

[Kick_It_To_Pickett 3,293]

4 hours ago, Half forward flank said:

I agree LN and I think there will be a lot of underwhelmed supporters when the hand I think they have known abouut for a long time is revealed. 

What hand is that? 

[Half forward flank 1,022]

4 minutes ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

What hand is that? 

Goschs 

[Half forward flank 1,022]

6 minutes ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

Has it? I knew it shut down and then reopened. Perfect opportunity to buy the pub too then haha. There’s your social club ?

Pub was sold, for a big development. We dont need a pub for a social club.