https://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/540240/rivers-benefits-from-draftee-camp

Last week Rivers, Jackson, Pickett, Tomlinson, Brown and Landgon went on a 3-day camp with Goodwin, Jetta and Gawn where they learnt about the club, life as a Demon player and played some casual sports.

On a different scale but it reminds me of the program the Hawks have to take new recruits to walk the Kokoda trail.

Terrific initiative.

Footnote:  I wonder if there is a hint in the attendees of our next captain...

If you want a good culture you send your best leader.

As opposed to the boxing camp where Maloney would belt the bejeezus out of the new recruits to toughen 'em up abit.

 

2 minutes ago, Fork 'em said:

As opposed to the boxing camp where Maloney would belt the bejeezus out of the new recruits to toughen 'em up abit.

Given our new recruits during Maloney's time can't see his methods worked too well.  Don't think there are any left!

The draftees are 'millennials' - a whole new breed on whom old school methods don't work.

55 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Given our new recruits during Maloney's time can't see his methods worked too well.  Don't think there are any left!

The draftees are 'millennials' - a whole new breed on whom old school methods don't work.

Nope .... None.
 

 

Hopefully it was an oversight but I would be disappointed to learn if Bennell wasn't invited to go

2 minutes ago, Deefiant said:

Hopefully it was an oversight but I would be disappointed to learn if Bennell wasn't invited to go

There could be any number of reason why he did not or could not go. It doesn't mean he wasn't invited.

18 minutes ago, Demonland said:

There could be any number of reason why he did not or could not go. It doesn't mean he wasn't invited.

One of them being that he's not yet a Dees player, only "training with".

“The ultimate goal is to win that cup at the end of the year and that’s what everyone’s striving for, so I want to be a part of that.”

 

thats what i liked too read !! 

8 hours ago, bing181 said:

One of them being that he's not yet a Dees player, only "training with".

If that's the case it gives you an idea of how tough his position is this summer. Allowed to train with us but treated as an outsider and not part of the team. Then on 6 March, if he makes it he's suddenly part of the team he's been treated as an outsider to. Seems very short sighted and culturally backwards. Wouldn't you want to give him the best possible chance of success on and off the field. I would have thought being made to feel a part of the Club was more likely to do that than being made to feel that you're not part of the Club.

no Viney ? significance

27 minutes ago, It's Time said:

If that's the case it gives you an idea of how tough his position is this summer. Allowed to train with us but treated as an outsider and not part of the team. Then on 6 March, if he makes it he's suddenly part of the team he's been treated as an outsider to. Seems very short sighted and culturally backwards. Wouldn't you want to give him the best possible chance of success on and off the field. I would have thought being made to feel a part of the Club was more likely to do that than being made to feel that you're not part of the Club.

There's a good chance the club wasn't allowed to take him. There's some strict rules they have to go by having someone train who isn't 'officially' on the list. I think he'd be certain as to what his position in the squad is and the club will be doing what they can so he doesn't feel like and outsider, all the training photo's show him smiling and laughing with the others. 

3 minutes ago, Red and Blue realist said:

There's a good chance the club wasn't allowed to take him. There's some strict rules they have to go by having someone train who isn't 'officially' on the list. I think he'd be certain as to what his position in the squad is and the club will be doing what they can so he doesn't feel like and outsider, all the training photo's show him smiling and laughing with the others. 

I think that this is more likely the case.

22 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

no Viney ? significance

He took some players away about 6 weeks ago. I see no problem with him not going this time.

1 hour ago, It's Time said:

If that's the case it gives you an idea of how tough his position is this summer. Allowed to train with us but treated as an outsider and not part of the team. Then on 6 March, if he makes it he's suddenly part of the team he's been treated as an outsider to. Seems very short sighted and culturally backwards. Wouldn't you want to give him the best possible chance of success on and off the field. I would have thought being made to feel a part of the Club was more likely to do that than being made to feel that you're not part of the Club.

He has kids and may have opted to stay home with his family. The others are likely all single.

4 minutes ago, Redleg said:

He has kids and may have opted to stay home with his family. The others are likely all single.

No the reason is he is not officially a Demon as he has permission to train and then the Club can offer Harley a rookie list spot.

Really  to think that the Club wouldn't ask him if they could shows how negative and unrealistic some fans can get!

Just now, 58er said:

No the reason is he is not officially a Demon as he has permission to train and then the Club can offer Harley a rookie list spot.

Really  to think that the Club wouldn't ask him if they could shows how negative and unrealistic some fans can get!

I wouldn’t have thought not “officially “ being a Demon, would have stopped him from going on a 3 day camp, if he wanted to.

He is officially training with us and involved in all club activity, I would imagine.

Unless of course you know otherwise.

7 minutes ago, Redleg said:

I wouldn’t have thought not “officially “ being a Demon, would have stopped him from going on a 3 day camp, if he wanted to.

He is officially training with us and involved in all club activity, I would imagine.

Unless of course you know otherwise.

No I don't officially know anything RL.

But AFL have rules and procedures and he is not under a contract to Dees yet, also which prevents some freedom to Harley.

Harleys  main role is now to convince while with the Dees that he is worthwhile for us to give him an opportunity and offer him a contract some time up to March via the SSP method.

13 hours ago, Fork 'em said:

Nope .... None.
 

 

Max

2 hours ago, It's Time said:

If that's the case it gives you an idea of how tough his position is this summer. Allowed to train with us but treated as an outsider and not part of the team. Then on 6 March, if he makes it he's suddenly part of the team he's been treated as an outsider to. Seems very short sighted and culturally backwards. Wouldn't you want to give him the best possible chance of success on and off the field. I would have thought being made to feel a part of the Club was more likely to do that than being made to feel that you're not part of the Club.

I think you’ll probably find that the idea of the camp is to introduce these kids not only to the club, but also to an AFL system that they have never been a part of. I’m pretty certain that Tomlinson, Brown, etc weren’t invited either.

(edit: corrected by It’s Time... Tomlinson etc were on the camp)

Edited December 9, 20195 yr by hardtack

46 minutes ago, hardtack said:

I think you’ll probably find that the idea of the camp is to introduce these kids not only to the club, but also to an AFL system that they have never been a part of. I’m pretty certain that Tomlinson, Brown, etc weren’t invited either.

MFC article on Club site said Tomlinson Langdon & Brown were there too. 

Edited December 10, 20195 yr by It's Time

1 minute ago, It's Time said:

MFC article on Club site said Tomlinson Langdon & Brown were there too. 

My bad, I didn’t notice that. Apologies.
Then I guess the answer is that the AFL has rules regarding those invited to train, only being allowed to train... and I imagine the club would see more benefit in having him training than hitting golf balls and playing table tennis?

1 hour ago, Red and Blue realist said:

There's a good chance the club wasn't allowed to take him. There's some strict rules they have to go by having someone train who isn't 'officially' on the list. I think he'd be certain as to what his position in the squad is and the club will be doing what they can so he doesn't feel like and outsider, all the training photo's show him smiling and laughing with the others. 

Not sure the AFL can control if and when Bennell wants to go to a driving range or to playback yard cricket with some friends. He is permitted to train with us after all.

26 minutes ago, hardtack said:

My bad, I didn’t notice that. Apologies.
Then I guess the answer is that the AFL has rules regarding those invited to train, only being allowed to train... and I imagine the club would see more benefit in having him training than hitting golf balls and playing table tennis?

I doubt the AFL would dictate what the training comprises. I'm sure the players that went away would have been doing some training around whatever else they were doing. 

Club might have decided full time training was more important at this point. 

On a sidenote HT are you getting the smoke I'm getting. I'm in the East near the coast. My backyard's full of billowing smoke. Never seen anything like it before. I can hear the boats on the harbour are having to use fog horns so must be so thick there they can't see through it. 

Wow, just had a look at a webcam. The harbour is completely blanketed. If anyone's interested here's a live webcam. You can barely see the Sydney Harbour bridge.  https://webcamsydney.com/

Edited December 10, 20195 yr by It's Time

14 minutes ago, It's Time said:

I doubt the AFL would dictate what the training comprises. I'm sure the players that went away would have been doing some training around whatever else they were doing. 

Club might have decided full time training was more important at this point. 

On a sidenote HT are you getting the smoke I'm getting. I'm in the East near the coast. My backyard's full of billowing smoke. Never seen anything like it before. I can hear the boats on the harbour are having to use fog horns so must be so thick there they can't see through it. 

Wow, just had a look at a webcam. The harbour is completely blanketed. If anyone's interested here's a live webcam. You can barely see the Sydney Harbour bridge.  https://webcamsydney.com/

It just occurred to me that it might be insurance related?  As he's not yet a member of the club, and only has permission to train, could it be that he's only insured against club training accidents? (I know, clutching at straws ?)

The smoke where I am (inner west near Marrickville) is the worst we have had to date.  I went out for a coffee and my daily constitutional, and arrived home with a sore throat and heavy lungs.

I hear that liquid refreshments are a good antedote, so if you're suffering too much, head in to Dulwich Hill this Saturday arvo where my band is playing.

https://www.facebook.com/events/2581052898797186/

Edited December 10, 20195 yr by hardtack