DeeSpencer 26,692 Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 On 16/10/2019 at 00:49, AaronDaveyChipsAndGravey said: Giving 6, 27 and next years which will be between 14-18 all for moving 3 spots up in the draft. Turn it up!! Expand It's not just 3 spots in the draft for them it's the chance to get 2 top 5 picks. 27 and a GWS future first is probably worth about pick 12. We paid a lot more (given our likely ladder finish) to North for pick 8. 12 and 6 for 3 is about right. 6 and a future first isn't enough, has to be at least another 2nd round pick. 4 Quote
Dee tention 619 Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 On 16/10/2019 at 00:48, Collar-Jazz-Knee said: I agree. They already have a midfield that consists of Taranto, Ward, Coniglio, Kelly, Hopper, Whitfield, Williams & Toby Greene. They've also got Caldwell, Hateley & O'Halloran also tryin to get into the side and they would also be adding pick 3 plus Green this year. Caldwell is the one I want. 6 & Caldwell for 3. Take it or leave it. Expand And 2020 First Rounder Quote
KingDingAling 3,758 Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) If GWS can't come up with a better deal with pick 6 and next years first rounder, then we should just keep pick 3 and bid on Greene. Next years draft will be compromised so their first rounder will be most likely 15-20. We need more than that offer. I would ask for an additional pick to add to 6 and next years first rounder. Edited October 16, 2019 by KingDingAling 1 Quote
whatwhat say what 23,880 Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 i would doubt that we're keen on a player at this point in time we very well might end with 3 and 8 at the end of the day but by draft night have a completely different outcome Quote
Ted Lasso 19,586 Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 The entire discussion is based on who we want at pick 3. if our number one choice is likely to make it to 6 then anything else is a bonus. but that doesn't mean we shouldn't play hardball. I have a funny feeling we'd be keen on Serong over young, just because he can fill the small forward role and rotate through the midfield. 1 Quote
billyblanks29 184 Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 I'm worried if we give up 3 we lose out on Caleb Serong, who will go 4 or 5. He's a very good footballer. I suppose at 6 we could get Sam Flanders as a similar type player, then Weightman at 8 which is a bit overs for him IMO. Quote
Mach5 4,768 Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) On 16/10/2019 at 00:43, AaronDaveyChipsAndGravey said: That would be a robbery. GWS wouldnt even consider it. They need the pick they get back for Bonar to use points to land Green. I’m of the mind that GWS 1st round next year will be worth diddly-squat in next years draft. We should be looking at wrenching out pick 6 and a player for 3 Expand Think back to the Hogan trade with GWS. We gave up more than seemed fair at the time, but in the end we were paying GWS more to make sure they didn't bid on Viney. If they bid on JV we'd have lost the ability to use pick 4 on another player, so the trade had more intrinsic value to us. The reverse is happening here with slightly different rules, but the precedent is relevant. Edited October 16, 2019 by Mach5 2 Quote
Ted Lasso 19,586 Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 On 16/10/2019 at 03:01, Mach5 said: Think back to the Hogan trade with GWS. We gave up more than seemed fair at the time, but in the end we were paying GWS more to make sure they didn't bid on Viney. If we bid on JV we'd have lost the ability to use pick 4 on another player, so the trade had more intrinsic value to us. The reverse is happening here with slightly different rules, but the precedent is relevant. Expand Agreed. for them it's potentially Serong and Green vs Green and no other pics. i can see exactly why they're so desperate to do that deal. 1 Quote
Moonshadow 17,678 Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) Pick 3 for 6 + Caldwell or O'Halloran NOT 3 for 6 + 2020 1st rounder GWS want pick 3 and Green with late trash picks, then cough the [censored] up! Otherwise it's Green at 6 only. Play hard Dees. Edited October 16, 2019 by Moonshadow 5 1 Quote
Mach5 4,768 Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 On 16/10/2019 at 03:38, Moonshadow said: Pick 3 for 6 + Caldwell or O'Halloran NOT 3 for 6 + 2020 1st rounder GWS want pick 3 and Green with late trash picks, then cough the [censored] up! Otherwise it's Green at 6 only. Play hard Dees. Expand 100% agree. We didn't do all this work, and aren't willing to greatly assist (a top-4 rival in) GWS, just to get back a late first rounder next year. I also like the idea of North giving our 2nd rounder to GWS for Bonar, then GWS giving it back to us. 1 Quote
Dees247 140 Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 On 16/10/2019 at 03:52, Mach5 said: 100% agree. We didn't do all this work, and aren't willing to greatly assist (a top-4 rival in) GWS, just to get back a late first rounder next year. I also like the idea of North giving our 2nd rounder to GWS for Bonar, then GWS giving it back to us. Expand Bonar isn’t going to North. Maybe Essendon, which would be 31 or 33. Quote
Ted Lasso 19,586 Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 Nothing wrong with hitting the draft with pick 3 and 8. infact it's a great position. i'm sure GWS understand that and we're silly if we aren't demanding a best 22 player along with pick 6 for pick 3. we need a deal that improves our side for 2020 for this to be worth it. 4 Quote
DemonOX 8,857 Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 Geez if we do 6 and 2020 first rounder demonland will go into meltdown. (Me included). Hope it doesn’t happen. Not for that scenario anyway. 3 Quote
Ted Lasso 19,586 Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 On 16/10/2019 at 03:59, DemonOX said: Geez if we do 6 and 2020 first rounder demonland will go into meltdown. (Me included). Hope it doesn’t happen. Not for that scenario anyway. Expand I'd be speechless. 1 Quote
DistrACTION Jackson 10,753 Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 On 16/10/2019 at 03:59, DemonOX said: Geez if we do 6 and 2020 first rounder demonland will go into meltdown. (Me included). Hope it doesn’t happen. Not for that scenario anyway. Expand Agree. Mahoney and co. would've been bent over. I have liked their trade period up until now, but this was our chance to play serious hardball and get a gun player. F**k a late first round pick next year. What a joke. 1 1 Quote
DemonOX 8,857 Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 On 16/10/2019 at 04:20, Collar-Jazz-Knee said: I have liked their trade period up until now, but this was our chance to play serious hardball and get a gun player. F**k a late first round pick next year. What a joke. Expand This. If we do this it ruins our trade period imo and undoes all the good work to date this year. We need to stay firm and get more for the pic. 1 Quote
DemonOX 8,857 Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 We can trade pic 3 right up to trade night so no need for us to jump at GWS offer. Sit back and see if the return increases as we would be in no rush. 2 Quote
Ted Lasso 19,586 Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 On 16/10/2019 at 04:38, DemonOX said: We can trade pic 3 right up to trade night so no need for us to jump at GWS offer. Sit back and see if the return increases as we would be in no rush. Expand I think assuming it's picks only. i'd be telling them if they can add a pick of 13 or better to add with 6 i'd do it. if we can get Weightman at 13 and say Ash and Stephens at 6 and 8 that'd be a good overall result. 1 Quote
Demon Dynasty 17,169 Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 On 16/10/2019 at 04:38, DemonOX said: We can trade pic 3 right up to trade night so no need for us to jump at GWS offer. Sit back and see if the return increases as we would be in no rush. Expand No need to after today. Would only want to swap if we garner a gun player off them with pick 6 and that opp finishes this evening Ox. 1 Quote
DemonOX 8,857 Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 On 16/10/2019 at 04:43, Rusty Nails said: No need to after today. Would only want to swap if we garner a gun player off them with pick 6 and that opp finishes this evening Ox. Expand That’s true will be interesting to see is anything happens tonight. Quote
DemonOX 8,857 Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 On 16/10/2019 at 04:40, Patches O’houlihan said: I think assuming it's picks only. i'd be telling them if they can add a pick of 13 or better to add with 6 i'd do it. if we can get Weightman at 13 and say Ash and Stephens at 6 and 8 that'd be a good overall result. Expand To have 6,8 and 13 wouldn’t be bad. Would also push for a future pic just to see if we can squeeze some more out of it. We don’t know how desperate gws are. Quote
Ted Lasso 19,586 Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 On 16/10/2019 at 04:46, DemonOX said: To have 6,8 and 13 wouldn’t be bad. Would also push for a future pic just to see if we can squeeze some more out of it. We don’t know how desperate gws are. Expand I suspect they're pretty keen. maybe if they did a deal with the Suns for pick 15. we could get thier pick 40 odd as well. 1 Quote
Lord Travis 10,819 Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 Hoping for pick 6 + a good player before the deadline. Pick swap shouldn't satisfy us IMO. 6 Quote
whatwhat say what 23,880 Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 On 16/10/2019 at 04:59, Lord Travis said: Hoping for pick 6 + a good player before the deadline. Pick swap shouldn't satisfy us IMO. Expand won't be a player at this late stage you wouldn't think picks - we want a spread of picks Quote
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