20 minutes ago, binman said:

Then why is Collingwood being beaten by inferior teams? Should their magical game plan not protect them from the impact of injuries?

Of course every club has an injury threshold, but what injuries last year prevented us from coming close to WCE, COLL or RICH at the top of their game? Lever?

Edited July 6, 20195 yr by John Demonic

Anyway, injuries aren't an excuse anymore. 

The misery continues for the members & supporters! when will Bartlett & Pert come out along with all the coaches & apologise for the pathetic, deplorable season & another false dawn!

50 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Hopefully the big mongrel will be playing today Josh!

 

I’d be happy with half a mongrel.

8 minutes ago, Demonsone said:

The misery continues for the members & supporters! when will Bartlett & Pert come out along with all the coaches & apologise for the pathetic, deplorable season & another false dawn!

They already have. Bartlett came out shortly before the coaching changes to say he went down to the football department. what do you want them to do?

At a bar the other night and they played Tom Petty’s Freefallin’, Very apt for the year we’ve had. Maybe could play that song as Melbourne run onto the ground.

 

Was a good club, back in the heyday

Loved winning, and the cups with it too

Then Barassi, took off to the Bluebags

A curse set in, and then we were screwed

And it’s a long day, sittin at the footy

There’s a freeway, runnin’ through the backs

And I’m a sad boy, for ever believin’

Those bad boys, keep breakin’ our hearts

And we’re free, free fallin’

Yeah we’re free, free fallin’

1 hour ago, John Demonic said:

Of course every club has an injury threshold, but what injuries last year prevented us from coming close to WCE, COLL or RICH at the top of their game? Lever?

Sure, why not lever. Potential AA player recruited to help us win a flag. We also didn't have Hogan for the last third of the season. In terms of importance not a million mikes away from say tigers losing rance and reiwoldt (not saying either are as good)..

We did make the prelim.

This pathetic season is on the coaches IMO. The players for the most part have won the clearances and territory battle to win inside 50s, but are losing games. They’re doing what the coaches ask them to, but what they’re being asked to do is play a losing game.

I wouldn’t be against a big coaching clear out come end of season.

I would like to go for a coach like Brett Rattan... 

3 hours ago, trout said:

Listening to a bit of SEN Crunch Time yesterday, Danny Frawley mentioned Melbourne and why nobody was talking about them. Derm made some comment about nobody cares and Huddo quickly said we will get back to them later, I didn’t here the rest so not sure if they did, but wouldn’t surprise me if they didn’t. Because we are a small club and our coach has a long contract so there is is no blood about to be spilt.

So true. Clubs like us around because historically most have a two out of a three chance of beating us.

1 hour ago, Lord Travis said:

This pathetic season is on the coaches IMO. The players for the most part have won the clearances and territory battle to win inside 50s, but are losing games. They’re doing what the coaches ask them to, but what they’re being asked to do is play a losing game.

I wouldn’t be against a big coaching clear out come end of season.

The game plan is much the same at VFL level. I can understand that they have to know the gameplan etc but it could be played every third game with equal affect and then the intervening games could be used for skill development and dare I say it testing alternative gameplans.

The goal sealer yesterday came from a scrubby kick by Munro from around the centre that just rolled through the goal (it almost stopped) because there were zero players forward of the defensive 70. Okay that's modern football but it isn't necessarily smart football.

1 hour ago, binman said:

Sure, why not lever. Potential AA player recruited to help us win a flag. We also didn't have Hogan for the last third of the season. In terms of importance not a million mikes away from say tigers losing rance and reiwoldt (not saying either are as good)..

We did make the prelim.

We over rate last year. We had a lot easier draw last year and in early August had not beaten a team in the eight. We then had a purple patch of five weeks. This covered up a number of issues re our list. Add some injuries to better players this year and and game plan that does not work as well  under 666 and you have us third last. We are not a third last team but we are not a top eight either. We have a couple of  genuine stars but a lot of VFL talents. Still a lot of recruiting to go. With a little injury luck we could finish 7th or 8 th next year that IMO is our true level.

10 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Gerard and Slobbo have promised to open up AFL 360 on Monday with a Melbourne lashing if we get done tomoz.

Make no mistake, this year has been an absolute disgrace. There has to be casualties at the end of the year. And our head coach must surely be put on severe notice if we win just 0-2 games for the rest of the year.

I keep defending our off season surgeries but apparently West Coast had 14 themselves and are now flying and probably flag favourites.

They also came back later than we did due to making the GF

3 hours ago, praha said:

They already have. Bartlett came out shortly before the coaching changes to say he went down to the football department. what do you want them to do?

Not sure been asking this question since the 70s...but whats another decade of misery when 5 have already gone....

I put it down to poor goal kicking and Tmac going from averaging 2.7 goals a game, to 0.8 a games and the sheadding of hogan, and milkshake hardly playing and having a poor preseason, just from those 3 players that's around 6 goals less a game, that's the difference to winning and losing. Tmac has had plenty of  supply in the 50s how many easy marks has Tom McDonald drop this year at least 2 per game in the forward 50.  how can any of the midfielders have any confidence that he's going to take a mark when he's just dropping everything.

32 minutes ago, old dee said:

We over rate last year. We had a lot easier draw last year and in early August had not beaten a team in the eight. We then had a purple patch of five weeks. This covered up a number of issues re our list. Add some injuries to better players this year and and game plan that does not work as well  under 666 and you have us third last. We are not a third last team but we are not a top eight either. We have a couple of  genuine stars but a lot of VFL talents. Still a lot of recruiting to go. With a little injury luck we could finish 7th or 8 th next year that IMO is our true level.

Lever has talent and leadership but is massively over rated by our footy department on his performances over the journey. It was exasperated by that idiot captain of theirs going on like he was irreplaceable.