Well  a light in the black today was Steven May

LEADER...... I SAY AGAIN LEADER

LOVED the masterful way he took a developing Sam Frost to account for an errant punch and love his Generalship!

Jones can play next year. Viney same BUT

MAY is the no no nonsense leader we haven't had since Ronald Dale

Apologies Rob

If this club is fair dinkum then need to make this change!

MAY FOR CAPT!

A bad look seeing him yell at teammates. I’m all for him giving constructive criticism, but fighting with teammates is poor leadership. He isn’t exactly perfect. Don’t throw stones and all that.  

2 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Well  a light in the black today was Steven May

LEADER...... I SAY AGAIN LEADER

LOVED the masterful way he took a developing Sam Frost to account for an errant punch and love his Generalship!

Jones can play next year. Viney same BUT

MAY is the no no nonsense leader we haven't had since Ronald Dale

Apologies Rob

If this club is fair dinkum then need to make this change!

MAY FOR CAPT!

So, no change then?

16 minutes ago, Jaded said:

A bad look seeing him yell at teammates. I’m all for him giving constructive criticism, but fighting with teammates is poor leadership. He isn’t exactly perfect. Don’t throw stones and all that.  

Nah.

I loved it. 

15 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said:

Nah.

I loved it. 

Yep time for this club to get a bit on MONGREL!

Well, if he’s going to start yelling at his Melbourne teammates, he’s going to be pretty bloody hoarse by the time he gets through all the insipid forwards, starting with Weideman, Hannan, Tim Smith & MacDonald. 

1 minute ago, goodwindees said:

Well, if he’s going to start yelling at his Melbourne teammates, he’s going to be pretty bloody hoarse by the time he gets through all the insipid forwards, starting with Weideman, Hannan, Tim Smith & MacDonald. 

Yep mediocrity and all things considered

In fact might have to get a megaphone!

I mean how CLEAR IS IT

Make him skipper 2020!

 

36 minutes ago, Jaded said:

A bad look seeing him yell at teammates. I’m all for him giving constructive criticism, but fighting with teammates is poor leadership. He isn’t exactly perfect. Don’t throw stones and all that.  

No. It’s time to get nasty

This place has been nice for years

Players just jogging around....

I was wrong about May, his attitude is great ? 

Seriously, I'm embarrassed to be a Melbourne supporter if there are posters that think this is a bad look. 

Good God. 

May was simply unbelievable today. 

Unbelievable. 

4 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said:

May was simply unbelievable today. 

Unbelievable. 

No Disrespect to Viney and Jones ... But 

Steve May MUST be skipper 2020!

11 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said:

Seriously, I'm embarrassed to be a Melbourne supporter if there are posters that think this is a bad look. 

Good God. 

I’m all for players giving instructions and leading. But May needs to take the heat of the game out of it. There’s a time and a place. Frost makes plenty of mistakes. He is a high risk high reward player. May yelling at him isn’t going to change that. 

May played another excellent game and I’m very happy with his inclusion. His leadership is obvious, but good leaders also need to know when to speak up and how. 

3 minutes ago, Jaded said:

I’m all for players giving instructions and leading. But May needs to take the heat of the game out of it. There’s a time and a place. Frost makes plenty of mistakes. He is a high risk high reward player. May yelling at him isn’t going to change that. 

May played another excellent game and I’m very happy with his inclusion. His leadership is obvious, but good leaders also need to know when to speak up and how. 

3/4 time was the right time to speak. Game was still on. 

Get the job done....

26 minutes ago, goodwindees said:

Well, if he’s going to start yelling at his Melbourne teammates, he’s going to be pretty bloody hoarse by the time he gets through all the insipid forwards, starting with Weideman, Hannan, Tim Smith & MacDonald. 

He didn't bother yelling at the forwards.  Just ran down there and showed them how to kick a big goal!  Loved it!!

Just now, Sir Why You Little said:

3/4 time was the right time to speak. Game was still on. 

Get the job done....

I didn’t have a problem with the 3/4 time discussion. I have a problem with yelling at a player mid game for a mistake. He will spend the rest of his career yelling if he has a go at every Melbourne player who totally [censored] things up. It happens that bloody often! 

None of us know for sure what May was talking about with Frost. 

It could well have been a specific thing discussed before or during the game which Frost messed up and May found disappointing.

I rarely agree with anything Leigh Matthews says but I agreed with his comment that, if anything, May might have gone on about it too long, but it's impossible to know given we couldn't hear what was being said.

I'll say one thing though: at three quarter time, neither Viney nor Jones looked like they wanted anything to do with it. Whether you agree with May or not, I find it unforgivably poor that neither captain got involved even in the slightest.

Just now, titan_uranus said:

None of us know for sure what May was talking about with Frost. 

It could well have been a specific thing discussed before or during the game which Frost messed up and May found disappointing.

I rarely agree with anything Leigh Matthews says but I agreed with his comment that, if anything, May might have gone on about it too long, but it's impossible to know given we couldn't hear what was being said.

I'll say one thing though: at three quarter time, neither Viney nor Jones looked like they wanted anything to do with it. Whether you agree with May or not, I find it unforgivably poor that neither captain got involved even in the slightest.

Unforgivably poor, but hardly surprising. Good players, terrible bloody leaders. 

Oliver had to step in and separate them, which tells me two things: 

1. May was being too aggressive 

2. Oliver is a brave man stepping between May and Frost 

6 minutes ago, Jaded said:

I didn’t have a problem with the 3/4 time discussion. I have a problem with yelling at a player mid game for a mistake. He will spend the rest of his career yelling if he has a go at every Melbourne player who totally [censored] things up. It happens that bloody often! 

Good. If the players trained harder and worked harder up and down the ground, then yelling would not be needed...

I’m racking my brain trying to come up with one other player in 50 years of watching footy who so demonstrably and indiscreetly criticised a teammate on the field and within a quarter. 

Can anyone think of one?  

I can recall Ricoh used to wave his arms and look sad whenever teammates kicked poorly to him, but can’t recall ever seeing what May did today. 

I should say his message was most likely spot on to Frost, but it should have been short and sharp.  He went on too long hence why it becomes a bad look.

No issue with May, about time we showed a bit of hardness instead of being nice, good teams of recent times were all hard on each other, STK GEEL HAW, more of it please, stop being [censored].

37 minutes ago, Jaded said:

I’m all for players giving instructions and leading. But May needs to take the heat of the game out of it. There’s a time and a place. Frost makes plenty of mistakes. He is a high risk high reward player. May yelling at him isn’t going to change that. 

May played another excellent game and I’m very happy with his inclusion. His leadership is obvious, but good leaders also need to know when to speak up and how. 

So, you're saying that during a game is not the time to have 'heat'?

Bizarre.

 

I didn't like the way he got right in his face, like they were about to come to blows.

Has history of these kinds of things, I remember him and Tom Lynch with a similar incident.

There are better ways to get your point across.

 

48 minutes ago, Jaded said:

I’m all for players giving instructions and leading. But May needs to take the heat of the game out of it. There’s a time and a place. Frost makes plenty of mistakes. He is a high risk high reward player. May yelling at him isn’t going to change that. 

May played another excellent game and I’m very happy with his inclusion. His leadership is obvious, but good leaders also need to know when to speak up and how. 

Not wrong but May's frustration highlights how poorly our coaching team is developing these players. Frost flies into packs and just randomly punches it. Zero strategy. Just chaos. 2-3 times a game it goes direct to an opponent. Today May lost his [censored] and held him to account. Make the opponent feel it, and get the ball to a position for your rovers to win it. Or hit the boundry/behinds. Frost does neither. And today appears to be the first time ever that Frost has been told not to punch the ball to nothinginess like an under13s player. 

Frost is a smart footballer that plays dumb. May is exactly the time of teammate he needs.

may is a recidivist in terms of his actions (suspension-prone, injury-prone, aggressive towards oppo and teammates) but fortunately is a good footballer

he's not captaincy material, but obviously already looks more than capable of leading the backline and marshalling them with how to play