Training - Wednesday 5th June, 2019

[Earl Hood 6,086]

Got to training late this morning.

Petty was walking off to the rooms early;

didnt sight Lever, nor Angus, Viney or Lewis;

competitive drills where they had to clear the ball from a stoppage and get the ball to an outside runner who would deliver a pass to the leading forward coming out of the goal square, closely checked by a defender. Pruess vs May for much of the drill. Does that mean anything? 

May trained strongly, Oscar B was impressive in a contested drill where you had to work the ball through heavy traffic, get the ball to a coach and then try to smother his kick. Got the smother in everytime. 

While the key backs practiced punching high ball kicked into Rawlings with a pad on his back, the others did a session of goal kicking. It seemed to be just a free for all of set shots and snaps, no inkling of any coach working on set shot technique! I haven’t seen anyone working with our key forwards on technique and routine etc. must be old school. I watch Weid out 2 ones straight through from 45 dead in front, no issues there at practice but game day....

and watching the key backs in the punching drill there was no emphasis on punching the ball to the boundary side on the contest. They got complimented whether they punched it inboard or straight ahead...again I must be old school, (where is Anthony Ingerson these days)? 

That was about it for observations.

[Smokey 4,389]

Thanks for the info mate. 

I wonder if they give kicking technique instructions while watching tapes etc. then the coaches just let them go out and do what they were told to do. And perhaps the coaches didn't need to guide them because they were all following their instructions perfectly. We probably won't miss a set shot for the rest of the year based off that. Happy days. 

[old dee 23,797]

45 minutes ago, Earl Hood said:

Got to training late this morning.

Petty was walking off to the rooms early;

didnt sight Lever, nor Angus, Viney or Lewis;

competitive drills where they had to clear the ball from a stoppage and get the ball to an outside runner who would deliver a pass to the leading forward coming out of the goal square, closely checked by a defender. Pruess vs May for much of the drill. Does that mean anything? 

May trained strongly, Oscar B was impressive in a contested drill where you had to work the ball through heavy traffic, get the ball to a coach and then try to smother his kick. Got the smother in everytime. 

While the key backs practiced punching high ball kicked into Rawlings with a pad on his back, the others did a session of goal kicking. It seemed to be just a free for all of set shots and snaps, no inkling of any coach working on set shot technique! I haven’t seen anyone working with our key forwards on technique and routine etc. must be old school. I watch Weid out 2 ones straight through from 45 dead in front, no issues there at practice but game day....

and watching the key backs in the punching drill there was no emphasis on punching the ball to the boundary side on the contest. They got complimented whether they punched it inboard or straight ahead...again I must be old school, (where is Anthony Ingerson these days)? 

That was about it for observations

 

Earl as you probably  know I have not been a big fan of the Weid however I have watched him closely a number of times at Casey and AFL level. IMO the one thing I do not doubt is his kicking ability, he is a good kick. He missed that last kick IMO simply because of the pressure situation. Whatever his inabilities are kicking for goal is not one of them. At the recent Willy game he kicked three goals from good distances in crappy wind conditions. 

Edited June 5, 2019 by old dee

[Cards13 9,117]

The punching the ball into play was something that infuriated by Oscar on the weekend. Can’t recall if it lead to a goal or shot on goal but now I know it’s a coached thing.

Edited June 5, 2019 by Cards13

[Diamond_Jim 12,594]

18 minutes ago, old dee said:

Earl as you probably  know I have not been a big fan of the Weid however I have watched him closely a number of times at Casey and AFL level. IMO the one thing I do not doubt is his kicking ability, he is a good kick. He missed that last kick IMO simply because of the pressure situation. Whatever his inabilities are kicking for goal is not one of them. At the recent Willy game he kicked three goals from good distances in crappy wind conditions. 

Agree.. the Weid needs to improve his positioning and in particular stop being pushed under the ball.

[Deemania since 56 6,654]

1 hour ago, Smokey said:

Thanks for the info mate. 

I wonder if they give kicking technique instructions while watching tapes etc. then the coaches just let them go out and do what they were told to do. And perhaps the coaches didn't need to guide them because they were all following their instructions perfectly. We probably won't miss a set shot for the rest of the year based off that. Happy days. 

Whatever the coaches are doing with improving kicking expertise, they are way off in terms of validating their efforts.

[Deemania since 56 6,654]

41 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

The punching the ball into play was something that infuriated by Oscar on the weekend. Can’t recall if it lead to a goal or shot on goal but now I know it’s a coached thing.

It is a coaching matter; it is also the easier choice for the exponent - nearly every time - and so, OMac goes for it. At least it has been a contact on the ball - good or bad.  

 

[Demonland 72,230]

I was checking to see if there were any images online from Training today and found this gem from a few months back. Always nice to have a free portrait taken by a professional photographer @Satyriconhome.

[buck_nekkid 5,878]

Did Hore and Salem train?

[david_neitz_is_my_dad 4,083]

We have to use the park benches for our players rah rah rah 

[dazzledavey36 54,985]

How does Kyle Dunkley look on the track?

[Earl Hood 6,086]

1 hour ago, buck_nekkid said:

Did Hore and Salem train?

Salem trained the whole session and was involved in everything but I don’t remember seeing Hore now that you mention it. 

[Earl Hood 6,086]

34 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

How does Kyle Dunkley look on the track?

I didn’t know his number so couldn’t pick him out. At one stage I thought I was watching him but that turned out to be Lockhart. 

[Satyriconhome 10,879]

Hore, Viney, Lever and Hannan didn't train

Salem is fine

Lewis trained strongly 

You can practice goal kicking at training till the cows come home, completely different in a game

[Satyriconhome 10,879]

The ball is out of frame he whacked it about 30 metres

[Satyriconhome 10,879]

 

[Satyriconhome 10,879]

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

How does Kyle Dunkley look on the track?

Feeling his way as a full time footballer

On Tom Sparrow, was wearing a 'bandage' that went from his groin to his calf, not sure what injury that is

[Satyriconhome 10,879]

1 hour ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

We have to use the park benches for our players rah rah rah 

Nah that's a bench that moves around Goschs, when it was close, players used it, but only Tommy Mc and Preuss???

[Demonland 72,230]

 

[buck_nekkid 5,878]

44 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Feeling his way as a full time footballer

On Tom Sparrow, was wearing a 'bandage' that went from his groin to his calf, not sure what injury that is

Reported as a torn meniscus in the knee.

[bing181 9,246]

If he's hardly even been running, difficult to see that  Lever will get up, not for AFL anyway.

Fingers crosse for Hore at least.

[Gorgoroth 12,969]

2 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

 

You can practice goal kicking at training till the cows come home, completely different in a game

Sure you can, but as the greats have said (Dunstall being a main one) what you practice is what you revert to in game. 

Otherwise why train anything ever.

[Earl Hood 6,086]

4 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said:

Sure you can, but as the greats have said (Dunstall being a main one) what you practice is what you revert to in game. 

Otherwise why train anything ever.

Yes the great forwards talk of developing a technique and a routine that stands up under pressure. Professional golfers all have a repeatable putting routine, so it should be for set shots for goal. Practice makes perfect they say! As long as you practice the correct technique of course. 

[Gorgoroth 12,969]

23 minutes ago, Earl Hood said:

Yes the great forwards talk of developing a technique and a routine that stands up under pressure. Professional golfers all have a repeatable putting routine, so it should be for set shots for goal. Practice makes perfect they say! As long as you practice the correct technique of course. 

And golfers have professional help during practice to ensure correct technique, like many sports, just not MFC and their love of 1.8 qtrs

[bing181 9,246]

29 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said:

Otherwise why train anything ever.

Because there's a difference between acquiring/consolidating skills and being able to execute those skills regardless of the circumstances. And not just in sport either.

It's not an anti-training position, just a recognition that training-track training has its limits.