Max Gawn's season

[Lucifers Hero 37,004]

4 minutes ago, chookrat said:

I love that Max doesn't play for frees or conplain to umpires. In fact our players are pretty good in this respect. Compare our players to the likes of Walters, Dangerfield, Ablett etc who all winge to the umpires whenever things dont go their way. 

Yes, I'm glad our team isn't a bunch of duckers!  But there were at least 6 staged frees by Dockers on Sat. 2 or 3 of which were goals.  

It is now a deliberate coaching strategy"

• I recall Brad Scott telling Brown that if the opp hold touch him to make sure the umpires see it.  So in the first month or two he received quite a few really soft frees.  He eased back when called out in the media.
• Who can forget Dangerfield pushing Brayshaw forward, arms aloft having called to be the ruckman and Gus was pinned for interference.  Definitely a a set ploy.
• What Selwood does to hunch his shoulders and lift the arm to get a head high free has been deemed legit so everyone copies him.
• Not to mention the bulldogs 'quick handpasses' which were really throws.

Teams are winning games on the back of these.  I don't want us to become known for that stuff but using a few 'scoop the ball' tricks or 'lift arm when tackled' trick that are accepted by umpires , well I'm all for those.

 

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1 hour ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Mighty Max features again in the coaches votes with 7 votes this week.  And, is 7th on the Leaderboard.

69 Tim Kelly      
62 Patrick Cripps 
58 Travis Boak
56 Ben Cunnington 
56 Brodie Grundy
54 Nat Fyfe
53 Max Gawn

On a different note, Max has had a torrid season off the ball with opp players getting into him physically.  It was constant against the Dockers with Max left flattened at least once that I saw.  No free of course!   In fact he received only 1 free all day.  Credit to him that he just keeps on going.

The club will now ask questions of the AFL on what is allowed.  From The Age. "Mahoney said the club would also contact the AFL this week for clarification on the off-the-ball tactics on ruckman Max Gawn.  The harassment of Gawn by Dockers players was constant during the weekend’s game and has been a regular tactic by teams playing the Demons since Port Adelaide employed the tactic successfully in the opening round".

Glad to see the club is finally taking some action to protect Max.

I love the language of the AFL. I assume "for clarification on" is intended to be a synonym for "to complain about".

[ArtificialWisdom 3,848]

1 hour ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Yes, I'm glad our team isn't a bunch of duckers!  But there were at least 6 staged frees by Dockers on Sat. 2 or 3 of which were goals.  

It is now a deliberate coaching strategy"

• I recall Brad Scott telling Brown that if the opp hold touch him to make sure the umpires see it.  So in the first month or two he received quite a few really soft frees.  He eased back when called out in the media.
• Who can forget Dangerfield pushing Brayshaw forward, arms aloft having called to be the ruckman and Gus was pinned for interference.  Definitely a a set ploy.
• What Selwood does to hunch his shoulders and lift the arm to get a head high free has been deemed legit so everyone copies him.
• Not to mention the bulldogs 'quick handpasses' which were really throws.

Teams are winning games on the back of these.  I don't want us to become known for that stuff but using a few 'scoop the ball' tricks or 'lift arm when tackled' trick that are accepted by umpires , well I'm all for those.

 

Sorry but we are just as bad as everyone else. Oliver routinely flops for off the ball frees, a reputation he will likely be stuck with his whole career. Jetta ducks every time he is tackled and don't forget Tracs little incident on Saturday where he tried to hand ball to himself on the wing then jumped in the air and basically flapped his arms like a bird trying to get a holding free. And the goal Max kicked in the last qtr came from what looked alot like an Oliver flick/throw handball to Viney, his hand ends in a fist but doesn't look like what made the ball move. Spargo ducks a bit as well but he gets a pass because he is knee high to a grasshopper so would likely be tackled high anyway.

Lucky frees and staging is just part is the game. As long as the free is technically there then I think it is fine. But players who do stage for frees that arnt there should be punished more harshly than they are. 

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57 minutes ago, ArtificialWisdom said:

Sorry but we are just as bad as everyone else. Oliver routinely flops for off the ball frees, a reputation he will likely be stuck with his whole career. Jetta ducks every time he is tackled and don't forget Tracs little incident on Saturday where he tried to hand ball to himself on the wing then jumped in the air and basically flapped his arms like a bird trying to get a holding free. And the goal Max kicked in the last qtr came from what looked alot like an Oliver flick/throw handball to Viney, his hand ends in a fist but doesn't look like what made the ball move. Spargo ducks a bit as well but he gets a pass because he is knee high to a grasshopper so would likely be tackled high anyway.

Lucky frees and staging is just part is the game. As long as the free is technically there then I think it is fine. But players who do stage for frees that arnt there should be punished more harshly than they are. 

You neglected to mention the plain FACT that these three/four of our brave lads are BALL players. The ones aforementioned by LDV and LH are not, and i don't care whether they won Brownlows or not.

[Swooper1987 2,745]

Bump. I still think he'll poll very well in the Brownlow. AFL Brownlow Predictor has him on 23, tied with Grundy.  His biggest problem will be that winning sides usually get the 3's. In his best games he has been totally dominant though.  I reckon he'll get 4 best ons and a few 2's and 1's.  He'll certainly be very close to last years tally of 20. A great effort again by the champ!  Also, it was very decent of Grundy to acknowledge Gawn's effort on QB when asked who had won the head to head for the year - "You don't forget 34 possessions". I think these 2 are both stars and have a healthy respect for each other.

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2 hours ago, Swooper1987 said:

Bump. I still think he'll poll very well in the Brownlow. AFL Brownlow Predictor has him on 23, tied with Grundy.  His biggest problem will be that winning sides usually get the 3's. In his best games he has been totally dominant though.  I reckon he'll get 4 best ons and a few 2's and 1's.  He'll certainly be very close to last years tally of 20. A great effort again by the champ!  Also, it was very decent of Grundy to acknowledge Gawn's effort on QB when asked who had won the head to head for the year - "You don't forget 34 possessions". I think these 2 are both stars and have a healthy respect for each other.

I doubt it Swooper.  Lost most of our matches which means even if BOG he is unlikely to get the 3 vote.

And then there's the Skull & his mates  who've been hating on Maxy since 2016.

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Just now, Rusty Nails said:

I doubt it Swooper.  Lost most of our matches which means even if BOG he is unlikely to get the 3 vote.

And then there's the Skull & his mates  who've been hating on Maxy since 2016.

I think he'll be best on V Sydney round 4, Collingwood QB, Adelaide and then North in the last round. You are right though, He won't win it but he'll do well.

[Demon Dynasty 15,396]

4 minutes ago, Swooper1987 said:

I think he'll be best on V Sydney round 4, Collingwood QB, Adelaide and then North in the last round. You are right though, He won't win it but he'll do well.

Hope so and yes he should.  At the very least a bit of a gauge as to how much the umps like or dislike him given he's arguably been our best this season.

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 5,795]

I think the Club will be making a massive mistake by not announcing Maxy as captain in 2020. 

When people think of MFC they think of Maxy he is the standout choice.

3 All Australian Jackets, way overdue.

Make the Man Captain.