1 hour ago, Rusty Nails said:

On that basis Troy are you suggesting we would be better of trading out our recruiting team rather than Tracc ??

Yes

We should definitely trade Petracca he should be in the centre right now but he isn't because he doesn't have a tank. He hasn't got one even he admits that and it's not something that can happen over night. We should have DeGoey what a blunder.

Isn't amazing, we have a few losses and we target one player. Lets goo through them :

Tmac, Watts, Omac (flavour OTM even when we & he are playing well, Weid (Still developing , last year was 3rd forward , this year (last week) No 1 fwd)

I get frustrated with Trac too, but there are a lot more frustrations at the moment . He is still getting 15-20 possessions a game in a disfunctioning side.

On Tracs current form you are only probably netting a return of 50c on the dollar if you trade him this year. He is the sort of player who will make you pay for selling him low. Would rather let him figure it out this season and build some form. He is capable and he will improve. 

32 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Me too. There has been far too many [censored] who come on here and just talk trash just to get notice. 

When we are having a [censored] year they just swarm. We didn't see these nuffies last year in the back end of the year when we were having success.

This to me sounds like it’s trash because you don’t agree . It’s good to have different opinions and viewpoints and doesn’t necessarily indicate trash or newcomer-ness

23 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

We should definitely trade Petracca he should be in the centre right now but he isn't because he doesn't have a tank. He hasn't got one even he admits that and it's not something that can happen over night. We should have DeGoey what a blunder.

Fair suck of the savaloy @WERRIDEE, it's repeated ad nauseam - drafting is ALWAYS a lottery, some come on better, and some come on worse than expected.

Although, in the interest of fairness, perhaps you can start a topic on your best 22 that we 'should' have had, instead of our current best 22? That'll keep us all occupied until 2019 season is over...

1 hour ago, Matsuo Basho said:

Different types of player. Patton can be the Hogan replacement we need. Straighten up the side, bust packs, kick goals, make everyone in the forward arc walk taller. Watch Weid blossom with The General taking heat off him. 

Petracca is a ‘cream on top’ player and an overrated one at that. 

Patton makes us structurally a better side. Changes the whole complexion of the team. He’s a game changer. 

Which is why Clarkson has earmarked him as Roughead’s long term replacement.

Petracca out to facilitate Patton in is about putting us back into contention as early as next season. 

Anyone who thinks we can roll the dice again on the same forward structure is living in deep denial.

Irrespective of tracca...  IF we had Patton in, with Weide, then TMc plays high...  or could even be a luxury on a wing.  IF he was fully functioning, fully fit,  with his feet and body.

If Patton was on this years list.... >

 

FF/ Preuss/Patton,  Weide,  Garlett/Hunt

HF/ Hannan, TMc,  AVB

CL/ Lockhart, Brayshaw, Melksham

HB/ Hibberd, Lever, Salem

FB/ Hore, May, Jetta

 

Fll/ Gawn, Olive, Harmes

 

Viney, Fritsch, Stretch, Sparrow,

30 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

This to me sounds like it’s trash because you don’t agree . It’s good to have different opinions and viewpoints and doesn’t necessarily indicate trash or newcomer-ness

Yep lets trade petracca for a bloke that has already had 3 knee construction, and not currently playing.. wow... we already have our own issues with our other big name recruits in May and Lever who cant even get on the park due to injuries.

Some of these same people who want Petracca traded are also thick and clearly have short memories because his 2nd year of AFL football where he was averaging 18 disposals and kicked 22 goals back in 2017. Then last year he was averaging 21 disposals per game and kicked 24 goals. 

He is going through a rut like 18 other players on our list. Its a good learning curve for him and i am sure Goodwin will encourage him to find a way out and also put in some support around him to help him get through that.

Mark my words, he will find form because he is CLEARLY a talented individual and he will go on to become a very very good player for us.

Petracca has talent & strength & just needs to get his aerobic capacity right to help with 2nd & 3rd efforts .. I’ve posted our fitness & conditioning this year is not tight too many players look fatigued  vs last year .. 

25 minutes ago, Demonsone said:

Petracca has talent & strength & just needs to get his aerobic capacity right to help with 2nd & 3rd efforts .. I’ve posted our fitness & conditioning this year is not tight too many players look fatigued  vs last year .. 

Petracca was the same last year.  He was just in slightly better form because he was playing in a better team, than this season.

He was lazy last year as well.   It just didn't stand out so much,  because people were watching the whole side performing well.

 

Petracca has been like the boy next door.   just popular for the sake of it...   the truck... truck indeed,  he's currently more like a street sweeper.

 

He has been spoilt so far,  at Mfc.

Edited April 27, 20196 yr by DV8

11 minutes ago, DV8 said:

Petracca was the same last year.  He was just in slightly better form because he was playing in a better team than this season.

He was lazy last year as well. it just didn't stand out so much because people were watchijg the whole side performing well.

Petracca has been like the boy next door. just popular for the sake of it.

He has been spoilt so far,  at Mfc.

[censored] rubbish

1 hour ago, Adzman said:

On Tracs current form you are only probably netting a return of 50c on the dollar if you trade him this year. He is the sort of player who will make you pay for selling him low. Would rather let him figure it out this season and build some form. He is capable and he will improve. 

Sorry, but 16 touches and a goal a game from a super hyped no.2 draft pick in his 5th season is a manifestly pathetic outcome.

I think we keep him

Our trading form is far worse than his playing form

He has plenty of upside potential, and any trade could end up a total disaster 

1 hour ago, Engorged Onion said:

Fair suck of the savaloy @WERRIDEE, it's repeated ad nauseam - drafting is ALWAYS a lottery, some come on better, and some come on worse than expected.

Although, in the interest of fairness, perhaps you can start a topic on your best 22 that we 'should' have had, instead of our current best 22? That'll keep us all occupied until 2019 season is over...

Rubbish. DeGoey was there they knew Petracca didn't have a tank. Bad selection the worst selection we have ever done. The draft isn't a lottery the best players get picked first. It's criminal to stuff up early picks and we always do it with the exception of Oliver and Brayshaw. Who funnily enough have tanks. Petracca is a bust a poor man's Sylvia.

20 minutes ago, Matsuo Basho said:

Sorry, but 16 touches and a goal a game from a super hyped no.2 draft pick in his 5th season is a manifestly pathetic outcome.

You are entitled to an opinion, but his current stats aren't an indicator of his future performance. You might be underwhelmed, but reality is that all 18 clubs would have taken him top 2 which suggests most recruiters believe he has the tools to make it.

Flipping him for pick 20-25 isn't likely to be a step forward.

 

3 minutes ago, Adzman said:

You are entitled to an opinion, but his current stats aren't an indicator of his future performance. You might be underwhelmed, but reality is that all 18 clubs would have taken him top 2 which suggests most recruiters believe he has the tools to make it.

Flipping him for pick 20-25 isn't likely to be a step forward.

 

I've repeatedly said a pick between 10-20, not 20-25. 

I believe we can get a first rounder for him now while he still has cache. Say for argument's sake Port come to us with an offer of pick 13 for him, we would be mad not entertain it if we thought we could parlay it into something more valuable to our list structure. Mad as hatters.

Edited April 27, 20196 yr by Matsuo Basho

1 minute ago, WERRIDEE said:

1 hour ago, Engorged Onion said:

Fair suck of the savaloy @WERRIDEE, it's repeated ad nauseam - drafting is ALWAYS a lottery, some come on better, and some come on worse than expected.

Although, in the interest of fairness, perhaps you can start a topic on your best 22 that we 'should' have had, instead of our current best 22? That'll keep us all occupied until 2019 season is over...

Rubbish. DeGoey was there they knew Petracca didn't have a tank. Bad selection the worst selection we have ever done. The draft isn't a lottery the best players get picked first. It's criminal to stuff up early picks and we always do it with the exception of Oliver and Brayshaw. Who funnily enough have tanks. Petracca is a bust a poor man's Sylvia.

At that time we were looking for big bodied Mids.   We were too blinkered IMO, in that approach.   I've been wanting us to recruit rover types,  and centreline types with speed and some 'GO' in them.

Truth is teams need versatility,  in all shapes and sizes of players...  and foot speed is always of value.   As long as it's accompanied with courage and a brain.

4 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

Rubbish. DeGoey was there they knew Petracca didn't have a tank. Bad selection the worst selection we have ever done. The draft isn't a lottery the best players get picked first. It's criminal to stuff up early picks and we always do it with the exception of Oliver and Brayshaw. Who funnily enough have tanks. Petracca is a bust a poor man's Sylvia.

Hindsight.

The market placed DeGoey's value at pick 5; Jarrod Pickett was taken at pick 4.  

The best players do not get picked first; it's an educated guess.  Paddy McCartin went number 1... he is far from the best of the draft.

2 minutes ago, Matsuo Basho said:

I've repeatedly said a pick between 10-20, not 20-25. 

I believe we can get a first rounder for him now while he still has cache.

I like your thinking but who will give us that pick? He's a bust like Watts. He should be a midfielder and he's not and that is a disgrace.

5 minutes ago, Matsuo Basho said:

I've repeatedly said a pick between 10-20, not 20-25. 

I believe we can get a first rounder for him now while he still has cache.

Do you know whats whats funny?

When the club actually dont trade Christian Petracca.

Get use to it, its not happening. 

Edited April 27, 20196 yr by dazzledavey36

1 minute ago, Matsuo Basho said:

Why? It's a thread discussing a potential trade. What are you afraid of?

 

 

3 minutes ago, Matsuo Basho said:

Why? It's a thread discussing a potential trade. What are you afraid of?

 

It is a crap thread, they will not trade Petracca and you are just overreacting to the teams performance singling  out one player. Other than that not afraid of anything in this world

1 minute ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Hindsight.

The market placed DeGoey's value at pick 5; Jarrod Pickett was taken at pick 4.  

The best players do not get picked first; it's an educated guess.  Paddy McCartin went number 1... he is far from the best of the draft.

Look where Collingwood are getting there picks right and where St.Kilda and Carlton are for getting them wrong.

7 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Do you know whats whats funny?

When the club actually dont trade Christian Petracca.

Get use to it, its not happening. 

Called the Watts trade well before it happened.

Called the Hogan trade well before it happened.

Heard similar choruses of "it's not happening" "never" "no way" "you've got no idea" etc etc

Watch this space.

Edited April 27, 20196 yr by Matsuo Basho

9 minutes ago, Matsuo Basho said:

Called the Watts trade well before it happened.

Called the Hogan trade well before it happened.

Heard similar choruses of "it's not happening" "never" "no way" "you've got no idea" etc etc

Watch this space.

So anyone who has an ordinary game you just create a thread for them getting traded. Ha wow...

I will happily watch this space knowing Petracca will havve a 10 year career for this football club.

Hang on, how did you call the Watts trade when you only joined demonland September 2018?

I smell a rat

Edited April 27, 20196 yr by dazzledavey36

As supporters, we should support!

Talking about trading players when we're losing, is a bit like backst#%@&ng.