Post Game: Rd 5 v St. Kilda

[Wiseblood 24,637]

4 minutes ago, dieter said:

I'm 68, should I keep believing?

 

Do whatever floats your boat, dieter.

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4 minutes ago, A F said:

You can't help but think we've got a few on the ground and in the coaches box that drank a few litres of bathwater over summer.

Yep many far too easily pleased just wearing the gear and saying Yeah I work for the MFC

Too much complacency!

[DV8 2,271]

26 minutes ago, Earl Hood said:

Normally playing for us, Kent would have pulled a hammy by half time or had some collision injury. Just our luck, he was always a potentially dangerous half forward in a dominate side, but he always got injured when he looked like hitting form. 

Kent had his time,  and failed with us...  and was time to move him on.  He has proven nothing to this point, with the saints.

[leave it to deever 17,451]

2 minutes ago, Nasher said:

He kicked it straight over the goal umpire’s hat about 45 seconds after the miss. 

So hes ok then. Forget about his other 30 misses over the last year. 

He is supposed to.

[buck_nekkid 5,818]

I had the opportunity to briefly share my views with Pert as he was getting into the lift.  I was direct, but polite.  He looks like he is Petracca’s role model in the pizza eating department.

[Sir Why You Little 36,635]

Having just watched Goodwin’s press conference, he does speak well. But it has been the same answers now for 5 weeks. 

Not much is going to change i fear

He refuses to believe that his structure has been obliterated since the Prelim...

[dieter 3,325]

Hey guys, it's a football match, no need to attack each other. Relax, take another valium, smile, be happy, we lost again, so fluckingwell what? Tomorrow the sun will come up, it'll be abnormally warm again and the rain they've forecast won't fall. There is nothing new under the sun, all is vanity and a striving after wind. So said the Preacher, Ecclesiastes.

[DeeZee 7,296]

Petracca isn’t the problem.

The problem is our game plan, it’s already super ceded , and I fear the players may have lost a bit of faith in it.

When Brayshaw says after round two that the players aren’t buying in, then something is not quite right.

[Sorry kids 635]

Some issues could be solved with competent coaching. 

Fritisch, teach to jump off one foot, not from two flat feet

Weideman, lead to or play on the flank where their is less heavy traffic.

The first open option is not always the best one.

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[picket fence 16,684]

5 minutes ago, AmDamDemon said:

Chill folks. It's [censored] but all about the journey. Goodie is learning too. [censored] yes, unexpected, no. We will come good

Sheeit, can I have some of what you are on??

[DV8 2,271]

26 minutes ago, Brownie said:

Membrey seemed to have a different defender every time.

There's just no system or structure back there.

jSmith would have been our best option,  I think,   or Lever,  if he was fit ?

We don't have many other 3rd tall defenders...  maybe Tim Smith could have held him.?

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1 minute ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Having just watched Goodwin’s press conference, he does speak well. But it has been the same answers now for 5 weeks. 

Not much is going to change i fear

He refuses to believe that his structure has been obliterated since the Prelim...

And that is a HUGE HUGE Concern!!

[DSP 1,488]

After having a few slices of pizza and a few quiet refreshments....

Im really worried.

As others have said, at least with Neeld we knew that the list was putrid and we had to wait for the inevitable "sweeping of the ****" to put it midly.

Goodwin has players that can play. Brayshaw, Clarry, Gawn, Tmac, Salem, Jetta etc. They have proven that they have the know how and ability. What has happened from the highs of the finals (minus that loss to the Eagles) to now, at 1-4 is staggering.

He doesnt know how to fix it - and this is our biggest issue. The defense is wrong - and the stats prove it. Far too easy to score against.
Offense is wrong - getting the ball in there, but no one can mark it or crumb it.

On top of the plethora of players that look unfit or injured and the basics of not handballing to a team mate in a worse position (this ****ing gets me every time) or lowering eyes and kicking straight or creating space and gut running..... we are in for a long season.

Richmond is going to tear us apart and ol' Goody will be sitting in the box wondering where it all went wrong.

Edited April 20, 2019 by DSP

[dieter 3,325]

2 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Do whatever floats your boat, dieter.

I hate boats, can't swim. was trying to be friendly...

[Superunknown 4,061]

In

cancellara

voigt

hayman

Durbridge

ewan

bling Matthews 

Phil gil

valverde

boonen

cavendish

rowe

porte

Evans 

froome

its obvious why - engine guts culture flair finishing skills 

manager take your pick

[John Crow Batty 8,778]

Very disappointed in our leaders again today. Viney tried hard but spends most of the time hatching the ball on the ground. Never does anything useful with it. Zero impact. Jones back to his pre cameo playing. Slow, fumbly and error prone. He is a huge liability and generally a non entity on the ground. Needs to be retired or needs to get a blighty to get him off the park for a long time. Lewis MIA, slow and creaky. Gawn, best useless tap out ruckman in the game. The others, who the farrrk are they?

Edited April 20, 2019 by america de cali

[picket fence 16,684]

7 minutes ago, dieter said:

Hey guys, it's a football match, no need to attack each other. Relax, take another valium, smile, be happy, we lost again, so fluckingwell what? Tomorrow the sun will come up, it'll be abnormally warm again and the rain they've forecast won't fall. There is nothing new under the sun, all is vanity and a striving after wind. So said the Preacher, Ecclesiastes.

Thanks Dieter, I needed that I now feel like 

Edited April 20, 2019 by picket fence

[DV8 2,271]

19 minutes ago, one_demon said:

Last year flattered us.  We were terribly inefficient going forward even last year, so we had to generate a stack of inside fifties just to kick a winning score.

agreed  'o_d' .

We had weight of numbers holding it in our half.  So we had to get some scores.

The game has changed away from the congestion of 2015 - 2018.  We all new it was going to for so many years now. with the attendance numbers dropping in recent years.

We did not heed the warning bells and take some quick running players.

 

We traded our early picks out,  for required tall defenders... but we spent like drunken sailors on at least one of them.

And we let another tall forward go too cheaply into the deal.  When push comes to shove, Melbournefc still blinks too easily.

[leave it to deever 17,451]

Goodwin has players that can play. Brayshaw, Clarry, Gawn, Tmac etc. They have proven that they have the know how and ability. What has happened from the highs of the finals (minus that loss to the Eagles) to now, at 1-4 is staggering.
 

 

Yep. Notwithstanding the fact we beat the reigning premiers at their home last year.

It is staggering how much we have regressed.  Despite all the injuries to our key backline fixes it is more than just gameplan.

We can all name many senior players that have had barry crockers. Preperation to the year has to be a bigfactor . Leadership is another. Cockiness is probably another one with players believing their own press.

We are now at the point that if we make finals if will be the biggest comeback since Easter 2,019 years ago. 

[Earl Hood 6,057]

4 minutes ago, DV8 said:

Kent had his time,  and failed with us...  and was time to move him on.  He has proven nothing to this point, with the saints.

Not so sure he failed, he was injury prone usually just as he got some form. I did qualify my praise by saying he could be good in a dominating side. He always had some defensive deficiencies. But gee we have some small forward deficiencies at present, no crumming, no forward pressure. Forward set up is a mess and Goodwin seemingly won’t pick Jeffy because he doesn’t meet our contested ball at all costs mantra. 

[DV8 2,271]

1 hour ago, layzie said:

I haven't a clue what to say. It's been a terrible day personally with some terrible news this morning and this has really just nailed it. I came to the game today to get a breather from all that was happening today, and the sad part is I don't regret it. Yep that's right, I would still rather get down to the g to see our beloved Dees belted just to escape from reality for a few hours 

I am sorry for your loss layzie.   Its a tough time losing someone close.

 

Hope you keep that chin up mate.

[Cards13 9,117]

2 hours ago, Deemented Are Go! said:

I’m ashamed to say I left at 3 q time - literally never left before final siren. 

Absolutely gutted. 

The upside is my family will get to see a bit more of me this winter. 

And loving the fact I rushed to get a [censored] GF guarantee before round 1. I WANT MY [censored] MONEY BACK YOU IMPOTENT WANNABES ?

 

I took my 3yr old boy thinking I’d get a half or 3qtrs maybe. He was bored by the first bounce, we lasted a qtr before walking the concourses for most of second qtr before heading to the kids play area. He bloody loved it, then found the trains and trams so we wandered over for a look.... by the time he was bored of that it was time to head home. Had a ripping day.

PS we are slow of run and worst of all of mind. We can’t think our way around a press. We don’t have players who work hard enough to do so either. 

We’re still way light on with injuries but worst of all we look like we missed the boat on tactics around 666 and didn’t train/draft/trade for it. 

Saints looked good, people say you don’t need pace it’s all about ball movement but I tells ya from the qtr I saw the pace of the Saints players really closed us down and our lack of pace to be able to break away from a contest was stark. 

What a horrible lost season, like ffs Dees just get your sh it together and keep it together. 

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4 minutes ago, Earl Hood said:

Not so sure he failed, he was injury prone usually just as he got some form. I did qualify my praise by saying he could be good in a dominating side. He always had some defensive deficiencies. But gee we have some small forward deficiencies at present, no crumming, no forward pressure. Forward set up is a mess and Goodwin seemingly won’t pick Jeffy because he doesn’t meet our contested ball at all costs mantra. 

Yeah Coz Contested ball Guru Spargo is the answer!

[Radar Detector 1,347]

38 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

So... yeah.

Only saw the first 15 minutes or so and had to go by little bits and pieces and looking at the stats as I was out for dinner.  Great night to go out by the way.  Seems like I missed another wonderful performance.

I won't read the posts prior to this, as I'm sure some people will have necked themselves already, but it's clear we've got some serious issues.  You can single out players, but if you go by what has come before today, there are issues with our game plan, especially at the 'G.  

But I've moved on.  Not even close to upset or annoyed.  It's not that important right now.  I won't begrudge anyone their anger and I'm not saying it's wrong to feel that way.  In fact, it's probably wrong for me to feel almost... indifference?  But that's the way it is.  It probably helps that I didn't see the game to be honest.

The sun will come up tomorrow when my daughter thinks the Easter Bunny has come, and that's all that matters.

First Easter Bunny egg hunt for my son tomorrow. Puts things in perspective. 

I relate to indifference. 

[Wiseblood 24,637]

I'm taking this quote from Karl Pilkington and changing it from Manchester United to us, but I think it's kind of fitting right now:

"I feel like supporting Melbourne is kind of like having a tortoise as a pet.  I had a tortoise, and they are not entertaining to watch.  You don't watch them, but you know you've got a bit of responsibility to show some interest."