Post Game: Rd 5 v St. Kilda

[Laughing Goat 308]

45 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Having just watched Goodwin’s press conference, he does speak well. But it has been the same answers now for 5 weeks. 

Not much is going to change i fear

He refuses to believe that his structure has been obliterated since the Prelim...

Common lads, lets not over react.......surely SG is going totake some responsibilty!

[Sir Why You Little 34,941]

5 minutes ago, Laughing Goat said:

Common lads, lets not over react.......surely SG is going totake some responsibilty!

It’s just cut and paste each weekend....

[Cam Schwab's Whiteboard 209]

Long time reader, first time poster.

I just watched Goodwin's press conference where he continued to say that Melbourne are too easy to play against. No, we're too easy to coach against.

When he mentioned that the players need to 'connect' better and hunt the ball more, it had me very worried - these are symptoms of the ethos and gameplan that has been blown apart in five of the last six games, not the cause of the problems.

Edited April 20, 2019 by Cam Schwab's Whiteboard
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[Forest Demon 4,681]

57 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

Petracca isn’t the problem.

The problem is our game plan, it’s already super ceded , and I fear the players may have lost a bit of faith in it.

When Brayshaw says after round two that the players aren’t buying in, then something is not quite right.

I agree with the first 2 lines, but is that 3rd line an actual quote? It wouldn't surprise me tbh.

[Clayton van Oliver 1,702]

1 hour ago, picket fence said:

Sheeit, can I have some of what you are on??

Sure. Have a tablespoon of temperance, a pinch of perspective and a healthy dose of none histrionics.

Edited April 20, 2019 by AmDamDemon

[demonique 314]

3 hours ago, At the break of Gawn said:

Well I was dead wrong. The Saints aren’t the bees knees, but they play a really simple and effective game style. Tore us to pieces in the middle and their transition from defence is very good and no nonsense.

The only 4 we’ll be worrying about this year is the bottom 4.

I would say that the addition of Brett Ratten to the Saints coaching panel has worked wonders for them.

He was a line coach for us back in 2011 I think and we should have got him t succeed Paul  Roos 

[picket fence 15,566]

5 minutes ago, AmDamDemon said:

Sure. Have a tablespoon of temperance, a pinch of perspective and a healthy dose of none histrionics.

Ah, I have plenty of Histrionics but aint sure about the rest!

[The Swimming Dee 1,862]

3 hours ago, ding said:

Your second team is Essendon. Broocy said so.

Who the [censored] has a second team?

[Thehardtackler 785]

Paul Roos said tonight that the players were not following Goodwin’s game plan properly and that was why Melbourne were not performing well. I guess that he should know.

[DubDee 21,284]

35 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

BEST 22 WAYS YOU CAN DROWN YOUR SORROWS:

B:  RUM,  WHISKEY, VODKA

HB:  LIGHT BEER, RED WINE, GIN

C  SCOTCH, BOURBON, MID STRENGTH BEER

HF:  WHITE WINE, BEER, MOSCATO

FF:  UDL, PORT, JAGERMEISTER

R:  LEMON RUSKI, PALE ALE, STOUT

BENCH:  OUZO, MIDORI, BACARDI, BAILEYS

Lost at selection again! How Sake and Brandy were left out I’ll never know!!

[Cards13 9,117]

1 hour ago, Wiseblood said:

Oh, good to see you turn up big fella.  You love a loss.

Old misery turns up. Every time I see his name I think of this Gallows song called Misery.

 Listening to it again just now I think the last part of it relates to us Dees fans, stuck in the Misery of the Dees. But I still love us/can’t break free.

PS long intro, kicks in around 1m 33s.

Edited April 20, 2019 by Cards13

[Cam Schwab's Whiteboard 209]

7 minutes ago, Thehardtackler said:

Paul Roos said tonight that the players were not following Goodwin’s game plan properly and that was why Melbourne were not performing well. I guess that he should know.

Did Roos elaborate on what that might be? Seems to me that the players are doing what they're supposed to, but it's not working.

[Redleg 38,047]

47 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Yeah Coz Contested ball Guru Spargo is the answer!

To think that Petrucelle went about 10 picks after him. You know him, the bloke with pace to burn who kicked 5 this week.

I like Spargo, but he is not a small forward. He is small though. After his missed pass, the Saints kicked the next 8 goals. It was like it sucked the hope from his team mates.

We have a gameplan that has been destroyed by opposition clubs and a total reluctance to accept what the whole football world has seen. To simply say we have to get better is pathetic. We bleed goals under our gameplan and no Coach is doing anything about it.

It is hard to criticize the players when they match the opposition in disposals, beat them easily in inside 50's, but have a gameplan that kills the benefit of inside 50's and bleeds easy goals to the opposition.

If you want to know how confused our players are, watch when we get the ball and hesitate, because we don't know what to do and then get caught with the ball.

If we had gone man on man in the 3rd quarter we could have stopped the avalanche and had a chance to come back from a few goals down and not 8.

We have Plan A and no other.

We lack pace and skill and haven't addressed it in the last few years.

IMO our FD is guilty of gross negligence in their handling of the list and style of footy we play.

 

[Sir Why You Little 34,941]

4 minutes ago, Thehardtackler said:

Paul Roos said tonight that the players were not following Goodwin’s game plan properly and that was why Melbourne were not performing well. I guess that he should know.

Communication Breakdown somewhere. 

The fact that so many are not following it would seem to me that it is flawed in some ways

interesting 4 days ahead. 

A bad showing on wednesday night and we are back in a world of pain

[Earl Hood 5,822]

15 minutes ago, Cam Schwab's Whiteboard said:

Long time reader, first time poster.

I just watched Goodwin's press conference where he continued to say that Melbourne are too easy to play against. No, we're too easy to coach against.

When he mentioned that the players need to 'connect' better and hunt the ball more, it had me very worried - these are symptoms of the ethos and gameplan that has been blown apart in five of the last six games, not the cause of the problems.

What does connect mean? When your key forwards can’t take a mark and you have zero crumming ability when the ball hits the ground and no defensive ability to stop the ball comming straight back out, you will always fail to connect. 

[Cards13 9,117]

1 hour ago, Vineytime said:

Heard May speak in the Lindsay Hassat room this afternoon, club doesn’t know what is actually wrong with his groin, nothing showed up in scan...

I got the feeling he could be out for a while. 

Must be the only player in the AFL with OP. 

MFCSS.

[Red But Mostly Blue 4,032]

4 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

Old misery turns up. Every time I see his name I think of this Gallows song called Misery.

 Listening to it again just now I think the last part of it relates to us Dees fans, stuck in the Misery of the Dees. But I still love us/can’t break free.

PS long intro, kicks in around 1m 33s.

Love this track, and Gallows at this time were great. Saw them live at Festy Hall, was nuts.

Great reference, feels like this a lot of the time.

[Thehardtackler 785]

Paul Roos said that Goodwin’s game plan is an extension of what he was doing and that the team were not implementing the game plan effectively. He did not elaborate much beyond that. It was in the post match commentary.

Edited April 20, 2019 by Thehardtackler

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,187]

43 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

BEST 22 WAYS YOU CAN DROWN YOUR SORROWS:

B:  RUM,  WHISKEY, VODKA

HB:  LIGHT BEER, RED WINE, GIN

C  SCOTCH, BOURBON, MID STRENGTH BEER

HF:  WHITE WINE, BEER, MOSCATO

FF:  UDL, PORT, JAGERMEISTER

R:  LEMON RUSKI, PALE ALE, STOUT

BENCH:  OUZO, MIDORI, BACARDI, BAILEYS

Disappointed to to see Light-Beer and Mid-Strength Beer getting a run when Moonshine and Rocket-Fuel are wasting away in the twos.

 

 

[Cam Schwab's Whiteboard 209]

4 minutes ago, Earl Hood said:

What does connect mean? When your key forwards can’t take a mark and you have zero crumming ability when the ball hits the ground and no defensive ability to stop the ball comming straight back out, you will always fail to connect. 

Yep. 'Connect' is just coach speak for when things don't go well. Absolutely infuriating to continually hear this throw away rubbish.

[Skin Deeamond 339]

53 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Careful, with talk like that we'll be done for not tanking again

To be honest I'm still confident we have the list to win a flag (obviously some changes will occur as they do every year) this just seems like the down year we had to have (a la Cats 06, Tigers 16 etc). We've improved every year since 2013, it's extremely hard to just keep going up up up until you win the flag. Now obviously most didn't think it would go this bad but maybe it has to before rebounding next year.

I'm still confident we will be in contention for the flag in 2020 and for a few years after. I think we may be looking at a cleanout of the assistants though to rejuvenate the players and the gameplan.

You’re joking! We’re on the bottom of the ladder or near it. Get some perspective. You sound like a Carlton fool.

[Sir Why You Little 34,941]

1 minute ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Disappointed to to see Light-Beer and Mid-Strength Beer getting a run when Moonshine and Rocket-Fuel are wasting away in the twos.

 

 

Brandavino is not even on the bench!!!

[Skin Deeamond 339]

1 minute ago, Cam Schwab's Whiteboard said:

Yep. 'Connect' is just coach speak for when things don't go well. Absolutely infuriating to continually hear this throw away rubbish.

Tell the coach to connect his head to his [censored].

[Thehardtackler 785]

I remember that in the latter part of the Neitz era we often failed in our forward 50 to have enough forwards leading into space and providing a target. Is that one of our big problems now?

[bobby1554 1,151]

37 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Is Jetta right? He got up a couple of times holding the knee that was strapped up and looked very ginger. Looks a long way off fit to me. 

Maybe he is suffering the same malaise as Jones? Too old? Seems to escape the heat lamp from posters here, but to date his season has been deplorable.