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12 minutes ago, Sorry kids said:

PAUL Roos remembers the meeting like it was yesterday.

In the room was Todd Viney, Josh Mahoney, Roos and prospective coach Simon Goodwin.

The time had come to decide who would take over from the Sydney premiership coach when his time at the Demons finished up.

“I went in out of courtesy and thinking maybe we need to give this guy and opportunity (to chat to us),” Roos said on Tuesday night’s episode

“I wasn’t going in negative, but I was pretty blasé about the whole thing.”

By the end of the discussion, Goodwin had made a significant impression.

So much so, that Roos was sold. He was the perfect successor.

“When I walked out, I knew he was going to be our senior coach,” he said.

And there you have it, thats how MFC does succession plans. The coach, who wants to quickly move on picks his successor in a room with two SA mates of the prospective coach. All wrapped up in less than an hour.

Having a Western Australian, who played for Meth Coke as the Club President is a strange part in this puzzle ? 

Why would he want the job in the first place?

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    12 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

    Having a Western Australian, who played for Meth Coke as the Club President is a strange part in this puzzle ? 

    Why would he want the job in the first place?

    networking mate

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    36 minutes ago, Sorry kids said:

    And there you have it, thats how MFC does succession plans. The coach, who wants to quickly move on picks his successor in a room with two SA mates of the prospective coach. All wrapped up in less than an hour.

    At least they didn't waste the back of an envelope to jot down notes from the discussion. So it's good for the environment.

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    17 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

    networking mate

    Yes good for business....

    I get that part..

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    At the start of this year I was always fearful that 2019 was going to be like 2007 when we went in with huge expectations on the back of playing finals the previous year only to crash and burn.

    Well, it is frightening just how similar these season are.

    However, I’ve also come to the conclusion that our 2018 season was our version of the 2016 Bulldogs season, only we couldn’t go all the way.

    Decent season that culminated by a very good late season run on the back of better than usual form by a high draft pick key forward who hadn’t until then (and hasn’t since) shown any of that form until that point.

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    25 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

    At the start of this year I was always fearful that 2019 was going to be like 2007 when we went in with huge expectations on the back of playing finals the previous year only to crash and burn.

    Well, it is frightening just how similar these season are.

    However, I’ve also come to the conclusion that our 2018 season was our version of the 2016 Bulldogs season, only we couldn’t go all the way.

    Decent season that culminated by a very good late season run on the back of better than usual form by a high draft pick key forward who hadn’t until then (and hasn’t since) shown any of that form until that point.

    Almost identical. High hopes. Among premiership favourites. We get a couple of injuries and it all breaks down.

    We really need to be mentally prepared for another 4-5 years down the bottom.

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    7 minutes ago, praha said:

     

    We really need to be mentally prepared for another 4-5 years down the bottom.

    No. We need to get better people into the Club, who are prepared to stick around longer than 2-3 years

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    20 hours ago, Sorry kids said:

    PAUL Roos remembers the meeting like it was yesterday.

    In the room was Todd Viney, Josh Mahoney, Roos and prospective coach Simon Goodwin.

    The time had come to decide who would take over from the Sydney premiership coach when his time at the Demons finished up.

    “I went in out of courtesy and thinking maybe we need to give this guy and opportunity (to chat to us),” Roos said on Tuesday night’s episode

    “I wasn’t going in negative, but I was pretty blasé about the whole thing.”

    By the end of the discussion, Goodwin had made a significant impression.

    So much so, that Roos was sold. He was the perfect successor.

    “When I walked out, I knew he was going to be our senior coach,” he said.

    And there you have it, thats how MFC does succession plans. The coach, who wants to quickly move on picks his successor in a room with two SA mates of the prospective coach. All wrapped up in less than an hour.

    "I'd never really met Simon before and I went in to Todd Viney's house (the venue of the meeting), probably thinking he'd be one of many (candidates the club spoke to)."  ...

    Roos speaking after the meeting and  subsequent anointment of Goody.

    Does this mean the club only presented / introduced / involved Roos with only one candidate after the search process??

    Anyone?

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    1 minute ago, Rusty Nails said:

    "I'd never really met Simon before and I went in to Todd Viney's house (the venue of the meeting), probably thinking he'd be one of many (candidates the club spoke to)."  ...

    Roos speaking after the meeting and  subsequent anointment of Goody.

    Does this mean the club only presented / introduced / involved Roos with only one candidate after the search process??

    Anyone?

    No..Roos interviewed a number of prospectives.

    Goodwin however was Mahoney's/Viney's man  ;)

    and the rest is history

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    21 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

    No..Roos interviewed a number of prospectives.

    Goodwin however was Mahoney's/Viney's man  ;)

    and the rest is history

    I hope this is the case BZ.  Cheers

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    22 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

    I hope this is the case BZ.  Cheers

    Perhaps Mahoney and TODD are a large part of the problem!!!

    They have been there from the start of this farce

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    2 hours ago, Kent said:

    Perhaps Mahoney and TODD are a large part of the problem!!!

    They have been there from the start of this farce

    Maybe they are, maybe they're not.

    ...but because of the positions they hold this is why we need an external review.

    The crew at the top seem don't seem to want it.

    ...do they have reason to fear the results of a review?

    The board need to act, the last board were a disgrace let's hope this one will do the right thing.

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    8 minutes ago, rjay said:

    Maybe they are, maybe they're not.

    ...but because of the positions they hold this is why we need an external review.

    The crew at the top seem don't seem to want it.

    ...do they have reason to fear the results of a review?

    The board need to act, the last board were a disgrace let's hope this one will do the right thing.

    Yes. External Review must happen 

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    Wonder what the invisible CEO and Board are doing?

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    44 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

    Yes. External Review must happen 

    Mate they didn't even review the PF. They don't do reviews. Its beneath them

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    1 hour ago, jnrmac said:

    Mate they didn't even review the PF. They don't do reviews. Its beneath them

    Then 50, 000 members may just walk away if they don’t. The Paul Roos years were implemented to stop this garbage. So what still remains?

    Roosy was right about “The Veil of Negativity “

    The Club keeps F$&@ing up and not even realizing it....

    We have to dig even deeper...

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    15 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

    Then 50, 000 members may just walk away if they don’t. The Paul Roos years were implemented to stop this garbage. So what still remains?

    Roosy was right about “The Veil of Negativity “

    The Club keeps F$&@ing up and not even realizing it....

    We have to dig even deeper...

    The 50,000 members don't have to walk away. They can do something much more powerful. If they want, they can identify and vote for alternative Board members. But I bet they don't.

    I should add, I'm not advocating change just yet. I'd like more evidence to determine whether 2018 or 2019 is the abberation. If it turns out that 2019 is, then perhaps we don't need any knee-jerk recationary change that may actually send us backwards.

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    1 minute ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

    The 50,000 members don't have to walk away. They can do something much more powerful. If they want, they can identify and vote for alternative Board members. But I bet they don't.

    I should add, I'm not advocating change just yet. I'd like more evidence to determine whether 2018 or 2019 is the abberation. If it turns out that 2019 is, then perhaps we don't need any knee-jerk recationary change that may actually send us backwards.

    Agreed. But this Board needs to realize that it has made mistakes. If it doesn’t then we are in for another turbulent time. 

    An independent review at Seasons end is the way to go. 

    This years drop off is more than just a few tweaks I believe. 

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    2 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

    The 50,000 members don't have to walk away. They can do something much more powerful. If they want, they can identify and vote for alternative Board members. But I bet they don't.

    I should add, I'm not advocating change just yet. I'd like more evidence to determine whether 2018 or 2019 is the abberation. If it turns out that 2019 is, then perhaps we don't need any knee-jerk recationary change that may actually send us backwards.

    What more evidence do you need? Analyse the 2018 season and you'll see that we played good football for 4 weeks.. The previous 10 years and the one after were putrid.

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    On 7/29/2019 at 5:12 PM, jnrmac said:

    What more evidence do you need? Analyse the 2018 season and you'll see that we played good football for 4 weeks.. The previous 10 years and the one after were putrid.

    Jnrmac, there's nothing stopping you from putting together a group of like-minded individuals to offer up to members in a vote for Board positions. However, I don't agree with your thesis that 2018 was a poor season. We ended up fourth on the ladder. How we got there doesn't much matter. The facts are, that under the system in which we play we were considered to be the fourth best team of the year. To me, that counts as a good result. On the other hand, 2019 has been an on-field disaster. I'm still uncertain which is the "true" Melbourne. Until I see what we do in 2020, I am reserving judgement on where I pereceive the club to be.

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    2 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

    Jnrmac, there's nothing stopping you from putting together a group of like-minded individuals to offer up to members in a vote for Board positions. However, I don't agree with your thesis that 2018 was a poor season. We ended up fourth on the ladder. How we got there doesn't much matter. The facts are, that under the system in which we play we were considered to be the fourth best team of the year. To me, that counts as a good result. On the other hand, 2019 has been an on-field disaster. I'm still uncertain which is the "true" Melbourne. Until I see what we do in 2020, I am reserving judgement on where I pereceive the club to be.

    So if you have on opinion it doesn't count unless you want to run for the board and control the club? Is that what you are saying?

    Are the current and previous boards beyond criticism?

     

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    29 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

    So if you have on opinion it doesn't count unless you want to run for the board and control the club? Is that what you are saying?

    Are the current and previous boards beyond criticism?

     

    Of course you can have an opinion without running for a Board position. My post was in the context of other posts in this thread that talked about 50,000 members and what they might choose to do. One of those options is for members to seek to make change from within.

    Conversely, we can criticise as much as we like from outside, but unless we're prepared to put our hands up to be involved, we shouldn't be either surprised or disappointed if the club doesn't follow our recommendations. 

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    On 7/29/2019 at 2:25 PM, Sir Why You Little said:

    Roosy was right about “The Veil of Negativity “

    The Club keeps F$&@ing up and not even realizing it....

    We have to dig even deeper...

    FCS, the biggest "veil of negativity" is right here on these boards.

    In the words of Fawlty Towers, "there's enough material here for a conference".

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    13 minutes ago, mauriesy said:

    FCS, the biggest "veil of negativity" is right here on these boards.

    In the words of Fawlty Towers, "there's enough material here for a conference".

    All bought on by the performance of The Club. 

    We are 17th FCS with little chance of winning another game this year

    Glad you are happy about that!!

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