2 hours ago, Wiseblood said:

Came from Goodwin himself. I'm on my phone so I can't get the exact quote, but he said that the docs confirmed he won't miss Round 1.

Edit - @Redleg there is article on the MFC website about it. 

Thanks that’s good news. He has become one of our better players.

 

Far out the incompetency of not keeping a hold over emergency 24th man for a preseason game. One of the Wagners or Tommy Sparrow had to play VFL and couldn't have been kept around for the 2nd half?

Both of these guys should've been on ice immediately. Smith sounds like very little chance of playing round 1 now.

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Joel Smith – test

“Joel had a pretty significant groin injury in the game – he just landed in a marking contest and pulled up really sore. Because we were two down on the bench, unfortunately we had to keep Joel going. We played him deep forward which probably didn’t help his groin. He’s pulled up pretty sore, so we’ll have to assess him towards the end of the week about what his reloading plan is.”

Bayley Fritsch – available

"Bayley had a significant hip pointer in the game – he copped a whack right in that hip. Again, because we were two down on the bench, we needed to keep Bayley going, but he pulled up okay. He’ll do a little bit of running tomorrow probably, will still train on Friday and be in no doubt for round one."

 

I cant believe they kept Smith out there with a significant groin injury during a JLT. Someone needs their backside kicked. Ridiculous.

29 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Far out the incompetency of not keeping a hold over emergency 24th man for a preseason game. One of the Wagners or Tommy Sparrow had to play VFL and couldn't have been kept around for the 2nd half?

Both of these guys should've been on ice immediately. Smith sounds like very little chance of playing round 1 now.

 

Agree. 

The result of wanting to get a specific amount of game time into a smaller number of players. 

A risk that shouldn't have been taken and we're lucky one of our more important players wasn't injured. 

Edited March 12, 20197 yr by stevethemanjordan

David Misson – Injury Update

Jay Kennedy Harris – 12 weeks

“It was a significant knee hyperextension issue. Luckily, his ACL was okay, but he’s got pretty significant bone bruising on that knee. He’s probably 12 weeks before he’s back to play.”

James Harmes – one week

“He had a compound dislocation of that finger, which was operated on Saturday night. He’s looking really good, so we expect him to be running at the end of the week, back doing ball work and full training next week, and able to play in round one.”

Braydon Preuss – one week

“On the scan, it showed to be a minor adductor strain. He will be in rehab this week, but we’re looking to get him up to train next week and be available for round one.”

Aaron vandenBerg – available

“vanders has had foot ankle issues for most of his career. His standard recovery post-game is to really keep off his legs, so having Family Day on the Sunday, we thought in his interest it was better if he just stayed off his legs. He’s in no danger of missing round one.”

Joel Smith – test

“Joel had a pretty significant groin injury in the game – he just landed in a marking contest and pulled up really sore. Because we were two down on the bench, unfortunately we had to keep Joel going. We played him deep forward which probably didn’t help his groin. He’s pulled up pretty sore, so we’ll have to assess him towards the end of the week about what his reloading plan is.”

Bayley Fritsch – available

"Bayley had a significant hip pointer in the game – he copped a whack right in that hip. Again, because we were two down on the bench, we needed to keep Bayley going, but he pulled up okay. He’ll do a little bit of running tomorrow probably, will still train on Friday and be in no doubt for round one."

Nathan Jones, Jack Viney and Jake Melksham – available

“They all did really well. Jack got a corky (corked thigh) in his IT band, just above his knee – that’s why he’s walking around with a bit of strapping on. Nathan got a corky in the calf, but all of those guys will train on Friday and be available for round one. We’re pretty pleased with the minutes they got through and how they pulled up."

On 3/8/2019 at 11:25 AM, Salems Lot said:

Bernie?

Bernie would make a great prop forward, running around in circles - however; we know he can kick 'em. He'd make the crowd smile, too. 

40 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

I cant believe they kept Smith out there with a significant groin injury during a JLT. Someone needs their backside kicked. Ridiculous.

Totally agree. He's a weapon and a valuable one at that - no need to risk him on the excuse of 'bench availability'. 

54 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Far out the incompetency of not keeping a hold over emergency 24th man for a preseason game. One of the Wagners or Tommy Sparrow had to play VFL and couldn't have been kept around for the 2nd half?

Both of these guys should've been on ice immediately. Smith sounds like very little chance of playing round 1 now.

 

So agree with you DS. It beggars belief doesnt it? Im still really gobsmacked after reading it. Can you imagine that happening at collingwood or WC?  Oh what the hell,  its only Fritsch and Smith...doesnt really matter leave them out there. Had that been Viney or Jones or Tmac etc there is NO WAY they would have been left on. Play a man short if you have to. Lets hope its a storm in a teacup and he only misses a week or two. 

By my calculations that makes it - 

Bayley Fritsch (hip pointer) – available
Nathan Jones (hamstring/back tightness) — available
Jake Melksham (hamstring) – available
Aaron vandenBerg (foot/ankle) – available
Jack Viney (ankle) — available
Joel Smith (groin) – test
James Harmes (dislocated finger) – 1 week
Braydon Preuss (adductor strain) – 1 week
Tim Smith (calf) – 2 weeks
Kade Kolodjashnij (adductor) – 2 - 3 weeks
Jeff Garlett (shoulder) – 3 - 5 weeks
Mitch Hannan (knee) – 7 - 11 weeks
Jake Lever (knee) – 11 - 15 weeks
Jay Kennedy Harris (knee hyperextension) – 12 weeks
Guy Walker (shoulder) – TBA
Aaron Nietschke (knee) – season 

Can someone explain what happened to Lever's prognosis being pushed out to another potential 15 weeks? Is it in the news or another thread somewhere? I thought he was due back around Round 5/6, with everything going swimmingly except for that minor recent scrape?

1 hour ago, Skuit said:

Can someone explain what happened to Lever's prognosis being pushed out to another potential 15 weeks? Is it in the news or another thread somewhere? I thought he was due back around Round 5/6, with everything going swimmingly except for that minor recent scrape?

The adjusted timeframe came from this article after the Richmond JLT game. 

https://melbournefc.com.au/news/2019-03-05/injury-update-garlett-to-avoid-surgery

10 minutes ago, Demonland said:

The adjusted timeframe came from this article after the Richmond JLT game. 

https://melbournefc.com.au/news/2019-03-05/injury-update-garlett-to-avoid-surgery

So as most of us are aware, Lever didn't play in that game. How did his prognosis stretch out so dramatically without any other official word from the club? Could the 12 - 16 weeks be an error, or is there a secondary source?

1 minute ago, Skuit said:

So as most of us are aware, Lever didn't play in that game. How did his prognosis stretch out so dramatically without any other official word from the club? Could the 12 - 16 weeks be an error, or is there a secondary source?

He got frostbite of the pinky toes, needs a skin graft to heal them.

Just now, Cards13 said:

He got frostbite of the pinky toes, needs a skin graft to heal them.

Cheers Cards, a good thing we have experience with Frost's previous 2-18 toe injury.

Any chance this is meant to read 2 to 6?

16 minutes ago, Skuit said:

Any chance this is meant to read 2 to 6?

Wishful thinking but I doubt it. List is from the club. 

13 minutes ago, Skuit said:

Any chance this is meant to read 2 to 6?

Is there some kind of magic potion down at the Holden Centre regarding ACL injuries? 

Dunn suffered an ACL a month after Lever and he’s listed as 1-2 weeks away. From memory Goldsack recovered in less than 12 months also. 

12-16 weeks kinda makes sense for Lever. Recovery from ACL’s can take up to 12 months and Lever’s a prized asset that shouldn’t be rushed.

He did his knee in round 11 2018 and round 11 2019 is in 13 weeks.

21 minutes ago, Skuit said:

Any chance this is meant to read 2 to 6?

 

Just now, Dee Zephyr said:

Is there some kind of magic potion down at the Holden Centre regarding ACL injuries? 

Dunn suffered an ACL a month after Lever and he’s listed as 1-2 weeks away. From memory Goldsack recovered in less than 12 months also. 

The difference is Dunn and Goldsack are old buggers who are nearly retired. They’ve probably pressured their club to come back as soon as possible as they don’t have much to lose.

On the flip side apparently the Pies are going ultra conservative on Matt Scharenberg.

We’re rightly taking our time with Lever. Isn’t he on a $1 million contract per year for 5?

 

22 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

 

We’re rightly taking our time with Lever. 

 

Agree.  I'd much rather Lever take a few extra rounds, but be absolutely ready to go, than to rush him back a bit earlier and risk another injury.  He is a long term player for us, and we are treating the injury with that in mind.

But so what happened? Did the Yanks revise the prognosis after his sojourn there?

46 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

The difference is Dunn and Goldsack are old buggers who are nearly retired. They’ve probably pressured their club to come back as soon as possible as they don’t have much to lose.

On the flip side apparently the Pies are going ultra conservative on Matt Scharenberg.

We’re rightly taking our time with Lever. Isn’t he on a $1 million contract per year for 5?

 

And it's Lever's second ACL on the same knee.  

12 minutes ago, Skuit said:

But so what happened? Did the Yanks revise the prognosis after his sojourn there?

Where did it say his recovery timeline was any different to what it is now?  Just curious.