Farewell Jesse Hogan

[WERRIDEE 5,536]

5, 23 and 30 reported on the AFL website. What do people think about that?

[drysdale demon 4,837]

1 minute ago, old dee said:

What about the 12 months in between?

If we happened to snag a flag and Jesse was a major part of that then I would wave goodbye to him at Tullamarine.

[John Demonic 5,870]

Slight topic diversion, but do we have any rumours of players we might be looking at drafting, trading for or picking up from a delisted club in the event of different situations, Or any personal suggestions on players?

• Hogan is traded, May comes in. Another 3rd tall forward?
   
• Hogan stays, May stays, Hold tight for a year? Or another KPD?
   
• Or if Hogan stays. May signs with another club. Another KPD?

Edited October 15, 2018 by johndemonic

[DSP 1,488]

2 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

5, 23 and 30 reported on the AFL website. What do people think about that?

Unders for mine, but I trust the club.

Obviously Jesse seems to have checked out, so lets just get the deal done. Bring in May and some young kids.

[Ted Lasso 19,549]

Sam E reporting the dees are open to accepting only pick 5 in this trade.... 

[Gator 17,596]

It needs to be reiterated that 5 and 23 is a BETTER outcome than 10 and 16.

The first scenario represents a first and a second, while the second scenario is two firsts.

Don't fall into the trap of thinking it must be two firsts.  

[What 18,810]

Is there any chance that Rankine kid will be available at pick 5 in the draft?

[Gator 17,596]

11 minutes ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

Sam E reporting the dees are open to accepting only pick 5 in this trade.... 

That would be disappointing.  

I don't get too hung up on picks, as it's about outcomes and improving your list based on cards you're dealt, but that would be a poor outcome, imo.

That said, I didn't hear his comments and only have your interpretation to assess.

Edited October 15, 2018 by ProDee

[DSP 1,488]

Just now, Petraccattack said:

Is there any chance that Rankine kid will be available at pick 5 in the draft?

Next to none.

[qarocks 107]

5 and next years first is totally reasonable for Hogan.

we should only be taking “unders” if we just won the flag .. which we didn’t.

 

[What 18,810]

Just now, DSP said:

Next to none.

Bummer.   That kid is seriously gifted.

[Wilson7 2,688]

6 minutes ago, ProDee said:

That would be disappointing.  

I don't get to hung up on picks, as it's about outcomes and improving your list based on cards you're dealt, but that would be a poor outcome, imo.

That said, I didn't hear his comments and only have your interpretation to assess.

 

[Engorged Onion 10,224]

36 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

The AFL are once again shooting themselves in the foot by purposely holding off on trades going through until their 2 hour TV finale.

This is how you alienate the fans.

Not really, @Petraccattack-

The opposite of love isn't hate, it's apathy.

 And you and everyone who is raging against the length of the trade period, will not give up your love for the game... you'll just pi$$ and moan about it.

[Gorgoroth 13,107]

If they traded him for only 5 I would be absolutely baffled and massively disappointed in the club.

[Gator 17,596]

4 minutes ago, DavidNeitz9 said:

 

Cheers.

That's his "mail", but it would still surprise me.

5 and 23 seems fair.

[ManDee 7,231]

3 minutes ago, DavidNeitz9 said:

 

According to whom?

Is it Freo saying it or Melbourne? It makes a huge difference.

And to the poster that said Freo were not interested in Hogan phhht!

[Pates 9,661]

5 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

5, 23 and 30 reported on the AFL website. What do people think about that?

Under for me but I would be a lot more accepting of it given Jason Taylor’s track record. I also feel like that would kind of equate to an equivalent of a middle range 1st rounder so falls inside the range of what we were asking. 

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

the heavy hand
of demonland
has forced a ban
on our tim tams

 

this rigourous swat
reminds this lot
to refocus our thought
on three fourths of aught

[old55 23,791]

2 hours ago, johndemonic said:

Would be magnificent tbh. Our TMAC/WEID/Hogan forward line becomes ELITE in the Riewold/Lynch, Kennedy/Darling level. Lever & Omac have great years, we capitalize on all close matches unlike last year, and have a full tilt at a premiership from the top 2 with a 3 game MCG pathway in the finals despite defence still being one 'fragile' area of our game. Steven May holds out for one year and we pick him up next year in our quest to go back to back. All areas of our team become A+

Genuinely love your work overall JD.  But the clear problem with that plan is 3 vs 2 vs 2 tall forwards.  It's one too many for us. 

Either out Hogan in May OR Hogan stays and plays back (or Weed does.  TMac no longer an option back - that's over)

Edited October 15, 2018 by Fifty-5

[Pates 9,661]

Freo will be laughing if all they have to give up is pick 5, especially if they hold out on Neale and get more. I understand the outcome base idea but does that mean we just forget about the investment that we’ve placed in him? Personally I’d rather us hold onto him than take pick 5 (traded onto GC for May). 

He is higher quality than May and that should bloody well be compensated. 

[DistrACTION Jackson 9,537]

16 minutes ago, ProDee said:

That would be disappointing.  

I don't get too hung up on picks, as it's about outcomes and improving your list based on cards you're dealt, but that would be a poor outcome, imo.

That said, I didn't hear his comments and only have your interpretation to assess.

Agreed ProDee.

I'm comfortable with 5 and 23 as I think we can make that work for us in some way such as a swap with the Crows.

Pick 5 by itself is massive unders in my view and would be a fail by Mahoney and Co., even if it nets May & KK.

There is being pragmatic and then being a pushover and this would be pushover levels. I was comfortable with the Lever deal last year as he is an outstanding talent and two later first round picks are different to a top 5 pick, but it is important we get fair valu for a player of Hogan's talent.

[64'' 11]

Keep Jessie if Freo are only offering pick 5. 

[djr 1,605]

Wouldn't be surprised if that pick 5 goes directly to Adelaide for their pick 8 and 13. We then pass on pick 8 to Suns and go to the draft with pick 13. That would be a good result.

[ManDee 7,231]

Just now, djr said:

Wouldn't be surprised if that pick 5 goes directly to Adelaide for their pick 8 and 13. We then pass on pick 8 to Suns and go to the draft with pick 13. That would be a good result.

And by the way that would be two first rounders.

[daisycutter 29,795]

7 hours ago, DV8 said:

I think I would have said 'Elf'.

Do they allow Elves, on Wall street, DC ?

 

only at xmas time, dv8