Jaded No More 68,976 Posted September 25, 2018 Posted September 25, 2018 On 25/09/2018 at 09:37, Stretch Johnson said: Sadly the other reality is that we aren't in a strong position when only one year out from him being an RFA. Yes he is contracted, but if freo are confident of getting him next season they wait a year and get him for nothing. We get better value now, but we won't get two first rounders. Expand Plus he has a nasty foot injury. We know how those go. 2 Quote
Ouch! 2,276 Posted September 25, 2018 Posted September 25, 2018 On 25/09/2018 at 09:36, Jibroni said: Rick Ashley, Gold WB. Maybe post of the year! Expand Agree! Been a very long time since I’ve been Rick Rolled! A classic! 1 Quote
Wiseblood 24,637 Posted September 25, 2018 Posted September 25, 2018 On 25/09/2018 at 09:37, Stretch Johnson said: Sadly the other reality is that we aren't in a strong position when only one year out from him being an RFA. Yes he is contracted, but if freo are confident of getting him next season they wait a year and get him for nothing. We get better value now, but we won't get two first rounders. Expand Would Freo risk it? A lot can happen in a season, plus being a restricted free agent means they might feel as though they need to offer more to ensure we don't match. I don't think we would do that, but it might make Freo a little nervous. The likely scenario for me is that we get a first rounder and a player for him. Is that good enough? Time will tell. Many were unhappy with the Melksham deal, as well as what we got for Watts, and look how they panned out. Quote
Dappa Dan 2,188 Posted September 25, 2018 Posted September 25, 2018 On 25/09/2018 at 09:37, Stretch Johnson said: We get better value now, but we won't get two first rounders. Expand I can't seem to find the details anywhere... but what was Lever when he came to us? Contracted? For a year or two more? Quote
MurDoc516 1,529 Posted September 25, 2018 Posted September 25, 2018 On 25/09/2018 at 09:40, Wiseblood said: Would Freo risk it? A lot can happen in a season, plus being a restricted free agent means they might feel as though they need to offer more to ensure we don't match. I don't think we would do that, but it might make Freo a little nervous. The likely scenario for me is that we get a first rounder and a player for him. Is that good enough? Time will tell. Many were unhappy with the Melksham deal, as well as what we got for Watts, and look how they panned out. Expand I don't see any player from Freo incoming. I'd like Ed Langdon, but again it doesn't seem likely. I think logic would prevail and we get two first rounders and one of those goes to the suns for May Quote
Wiseblood 24,637 Posted September 25, 2018 Posted September 25, 2018 On 25/09/2018 at 09:42, Dappa Dan said: I can't seem to find the details anywhere... but what was Lever when he came to us? Contracted? For a year or two more? Expand He was uncontracted from memory. 1 Quote
Mickey 4,777 Posted September 25, 2018 Posted September 25, 2018 On 25/09/2018 at 09:33, Wiseblood said: Statement from the club Here we go... Expand You bastard. Bloody Rick Rolled 1 3 Quote
Sir Why You Little 37,499 Posted September 25, 2018 Posted September 25, 2018 (edited) On 25/09/2018 at 08:52, Bring Back Barassi said: Yes, it panned out that way, but we could have extracted more at the time if we played hardball Expand No we didn’t. Jack is not that good at AFL Level. We did ? ok Edited September 25, 2018 by Sir Why You Little 1 Quote
layzie 34,529 Posted September 25, 2018 Posted September 25, 2018 On 25/09/2018 at 09:33, Wiseblood said: Statement from the club Here we go... Expand The old Rick roll, never gets old! 1 Quote
Dappa Dan 2,188 Posted September 25, 2018 Posted September 25, 2018 On 25/09/2018 at 09:43, Wiseblood said: He was uncontracted from memory. Expand Bloody hell. So we have Jesse contracted for another season, which is a better position, and we're still not going to get two firsts? Quote
Wiseblood 24,637 Posted September 25, 2018 Posted September 25, 2018 On 25/09/2018 at 09:43, MurDoc516 said: I don't see any player from Freo incoming. I'd like Ed Langdon, but again it doesn't seem likely. I think logic would prevail and we get two first rounders and one of those goes to the suns for May Expand Would they do Picks 4 and 6, or would they balk at that as being too much? I could see us getting the better of this years picks plus a first rounder from next year doing the trick, and with Neale potentially leaving, that pick may end up in the single digits as well. Quote
Jibroni 5,068 Posted September 25, 2018 Posted September 25, 2018 (edited) Freo fans are talking pick 5 and future first for Hogan which seems fair value. I would trade the future first for May with a swap of their 2nd and our third rounder this year. Edited September 25, 2018 by Jibroni 1 Quote
Guest Posted September 25, 2018 Posted September 25, 2018 On 25/09/2018 at 09:40, Wiseblood said: Would Freo risk it? Expand We don't know, but its likely that there have been a lot of work done already. It is possible and proabaly likely that the numbers have been done and it has been agreed that Hogan is either going there this season, or he plays out his contract and he goes next year. Both clubs, Hogan and his manager will know. Quote
Moonshadow 17,678 Posted September 25, 2018 Posted September 25, 2018 (edited) The jungle drums are sounding http://m.afl.com.au/news/2018-09-25/going-west-hogans-future-coming-to-a-head Edited September 25, 2018 by Moonshadow 1 Quote
Wiseblood 24,637 Posted September 25, 2018 Posted September 25, 2018 On 25/09/2018 at 09:45, Dappa Dan said: Bloody hell. So we have Jesse contracted for another season, which is a better position, and we're still not going to get two firsts? Expand Who says we won't? I don't believe for a second that we won't get two first rounders (maybe one this year then next year) or at least a first rounder and a player equivalent to a first round pick. I don't think we need to get too worried about that stuff just yet. Can you really see the club not getting much for him? Quote
MurDoc516 1,529 Posted September 25, 2018 Posted September 25, 2018 On 25/09/2018 at 09:45, Wiseblood said: Would they do Picks 4 and 6, or would they balk at that as being too much? I could see us getting the better of this years picks plus a first rounder from next year doing the trick, and with Neale potentially leaving, that pick may end up in the single digits as well. Expand Depends what we ask for. If i'm melbourne im asking for 4 and 6 because he's contracted, will score 45+ (something Freo hasn't had since Pav) and 23. Quote
Dappa Dan 2,188 Posted September 25, 2018 Posted September 25, 2018 On 25/09/2018 at 09:45, Stretch Johnson said: We don't know, but its likely that there have been a lot of work done already. Expand I have a sneaking suspicion the last time he signed, he agreed behind closed doors to extend two years until the new CBA was done, with a view to leave then to maximise his value. Quote
markc 975 Posted September 25, 2018 Posted September 25, 2018 On 25/09/2018 at 09:05, Wiseblood said: Can Cerra still be traded even though he just signed a new deal very recently? I'm assuming he can. Expand didnt they bring a rule to cover this, I am pretty sure they can as long as the player agrees 2 Quote
MurDoc516 1,529 Posted September 25, 2018 Posted September 25, 2018 On 25/09/2018 at 09:45, Jibroni said: Freo fans are talking pick 5 and future first for Hogan which seems fair value Expand Future first round would interest us if we are in for Kelly. Quote
Leoncelli_36 2,264 Posted September 25, 2018 Posted September 25, 2018 On 25/09/2018 at 09:45, Jibroni said: Freo fans are talking pick 5 and future first for Hogan which seems fair value Expand We cannot on trade that future pick this season tho can we? My understand is that because we traded a future pick last trade period, we are excluded Quote
Cheap Seats 3,310 Posted September 25, 2018 Posted September 25, 2018 On 25/09/2018 at 09:46, Moonshadow said: The jungle drums are sounding http://m.afl.com.au/news/2018-09-25/going-west-hogans-future-coming-to-a-head Expand They've obviously been reading demonland 1 Quote
MurDoc516 1,529 Posted September 25, 2018 Posted September 25, 2018 On 25/09/2018 at 09:49, Leoncelli_36 said: We cannot on trade that future pick this season tho can we? My understand is that because we traded a future pick last trade period, we are excluded Expand mate it's the AFL. You can do anything if you ask nicely. Geelong, Hawks and Swans have been abusing this loophole for years. source Fox Footy podcast. They continue to laugh at it. 2 Quote
Wiseblood 24,637 Posted September 25, 2018 Posted September 25, 2018 Interesting quote from the AFL article: It's understood Hogan had his exit interview with the Demons on Monday, when the possibility of a trade was not broached. What has changed since Monday? If he wanted out, why wouldn't you discuss it then? 2 Quote
Guest Posted September 25, 2018 Posted September 25, 2018 (edited) On 25/09/2018 at 09:42, Dappa Dan said: I can't seem to find the details anywhere... but what was Lever when he came to us? Contracted? For a year or two more? Expand Uncontracted. The other issue is that there is more competition for Lever's services in Melbourne than for Hogan's in WA. I think we will do ok out of it. Edited September 25, 2018 by Guest Quote
Demons11 7,152 Posted September 25, 2018 Posted September 25, 2018 (edited) On 25/09/2018 at 09:45, Dappa Dan said: Bloody hell. So we have Jesse contracted for another season, which is a better position, and we're still not going to get two firsts? Expand People need to stop comparing other trades. If Freo had pick 12 only, then they would offer that and next years first rounder but you are not going to get pick 5 and another first rounder. Shattered to lose him but he is not worth 2 picks under 5 Edited September 25, 2018 by Demons11 1 Quote
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