Expansion teams

[DubDee 26,122]

Indulgent it may be but screw it. 

Remember when GC and GWS joined the Afl? We’ll win a flag in 4-5 years blah blah

well it’s been 8 and 7 years and they’ve done sweet FA. GC are a rabble and GWS although getting themselves in a good position won’t last and continue to fall over. Shiel will be a big loss. Cameron has gone soft. 

Aaaaaand I couldn’t be happier!

finally I reckon Gary made a massive blue spending 6 years at GC. Surely he will look back at that as a mistake. Some more money but I reckon he would regret it. 

[McQueen 17,867]

Gold Coast will eventually fold. 

The Giants have some serious talent out injured and probably cost them a GF berth this year. 

All in all, I CGAF. 

[radar 1,865]

Feeder teams  for Destination clubs 

[The Backyard Charizard 1,202]

2 minutes ago, radar said:

Feeder teams  for the Deestination club!

Fixed  

[Nasher 33,617]

Premierships are hard to win.

[beelzebub 23,383]

57 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Premierships are hard to win.

We ought to know

[Gipsy Danger 1,067]

Can we still consider every team that came in after 1897 an expansion team?

[The Chazz 4,077]

5 hours ago, Nasher said:

Premierships are hard to win.

Sums it up for me too.

[Tony Tea 2,809]

Demetriou went from relocating North to expand TV coverage to introducing two new teams when North knocked him back. One team was to replace North on the Gold Coast, the other was an afterthought when he realised one extra team meant an odd number of teams. 

North was going to be a manageable relocation both logistically and financially. But the two new teams are a financial black hole since every alleged dollar gained via expanded TV coverage is burned by the massive money needed to prop up GC and GWS.

It has always seemed dodgy that North's relocation was going to satisfy the TV expansion, but then suddenly the Giants and Suns were the answer.

Policy on the run based on Demetriou's spite at North.

Fiasco.

Fold them both.

 

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

History will show how lucky Hawthorn, Geelong and Sydney were to be top teams while these expansion teams were hoarding all the draft picks.

We had our chances but blew it at the draft table in the those early years.

[Diamond_Jim 12,628]

17 minutes ago, Tony Tea said:

Demetriou went from relocating North to expand TV coverage to introducing two new teams when North knocked him back. One team was to replace North on the Gold Coast, the other was an afterthought when he realised one extra team meant an odd number of teams. 

North was going to be a manageable relocation both logistically and financially. But the two new teams are a financial black hole since every alleged dollar gained via expanded TV coverage is burned by the massive money needed to prop up GC and GWS.

It has always seemed dodgy that North's relocation was going to satisfy the TV expansion, but then suddenly the Giants and Suns were the answer.

Policy on the run based on Demetriou's spite at North.

Fiasco.

Fold them both.

 

Gold Coast will be a permanent drain on the AFL purse from an attendance basis. The only question is how much.

At present the AFL are looking closely at GCS but not at  their financial viability ... rather it's about their ability to attract and retain talent.

Not hard to guess at the answer to that problem.

GCS simply divides the small Qld market and makes it harder for Brisbane to establish itself after almost 30 years up north.

I'm a little bit more upbeat about GWS simply because of their access to the Canberra market but let's face it, they have had 3 years of very solid onfield performance and their attendances are not exactly skyrocketing. When they fall off performance wise in 3-5 years the attendance drop could be precipitous.

[Little Goffy 14,645]

Meh, Gold Coast suffered from what I am officially announcing as the Gary Ablett Curse. Now he's back at Geelong, and from this point I'd reckon that Gold Coast will play in a final before Geelong does again. And no, I'm not saying Gold Coast are about to surprise everyone.

Also, the whole thing was botched from the start, at both clubs. I mean... Kevin Sheedy? Wait, was he brought in because he was a coaching genius or a marketing genius? Because it would appear there was absolute failure on both counts.

Western Sydney had to name their medal after someone with no meaningful connection to Western Sydney, because he was all they had. Sums it up, really.

[Guest]

One problem I reckon the Gold Coast was plagued by was the lack of involvement from the Southport Sharks.

That is a bloody legitimate football club with a brilliant history, a preestablished set of facilities and a social club that would make dee-luded cream his jeans.

It is true that there are more AFL fans on the Goldy than in Blacktown. However, the expat Vics, Sandgropers and Croweaters know what an authentic footy club looks and feels like. Sadly a Gold Coast team will never get their loyalty as they mostly have teams that they support already. However, their kids who are savvy to footy, thanks to their parents, are malleable but as they can distinguish a grass roots footy club from a cheap gimmick, they too will not barrack for the Suns.

Instead of trying to land the 'undecideds' and theater goers by providing a carnival atmosphere with mini trains, sausage sizzles and Coco the Clown at gate six followed by blokes passing football looking like McDonald's employees, they would have been better off establishing the Gold Coast Sharks and at least looking the part.

Edited September 19, 2018 by Colin B. Flaubert

[What 18,810]

Out - Gold Coast, GWS

In -   Fitzroy, Tassie

[Jibroni 5,011]

18 teams is too many, go back to 16 and send North to Tassie.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Travis Auld set up the Gold Coast Suns.

Travis Auld is now in charge of the AFL's scheduling.

 

[BAMF 4,386]

Gold Coast Suns Membership base and sponsorship[edit]

Year	Members	Change from previous season	Finishing position	Average home crowd [31]	Profit (Loss)	Major Sponsor
2011	14,064	—	17th	19,169	Undisclosed profit[32]	HOSTPLUS, Virgin Australia
2012	11,204	2,860	17th	13,645	($1,401,168)[33]	HOSTPLUS, Virgin Australia
2013	12,502	1,298	14th	13,907	$62,533[33]	HOSTPLUS, Virgin Australia
2014	13,478	976	12th	16,092	$1,062,082[34]	Fiat Automobiles, HOSTPLUS
2015	13,643	165	16th	12,360	($330,870)[35]	Fiat Automobiles, HOSTPLUS
2016	12,854	789	15th	11,561	($2,941,965)	Fiat Automobiles, HOSTPLUS
2017	11,665	1,189	17th	13,663	19,219[36]	HOSTPLUS
2018	12,108¹	443	17th			Cover-More, HOSTPLUS

Edited September 19, 2018 by BAMF