1 hour ago, daisycutter said:

agreed, absolutely not a dive

he may have (stress 'may') milked it a little bit, but it was all initiated by mitchell and a straight shoulder charge to the chest when clarrie was not braced and miles off the ball. if dorks have a problem it should be with mitchell for a stupid lack of control. a free kick every time in my book

Exactomundo ... how is Brownlow Boy's brain fart suddenly Clarry's responsibility ??

The dlckhead dork stuffed up . Very expensively in context of the game. 

35 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

The guys flopping over Jones, Brayshaw and Lewis got free kicks.......just sayin...

Yeah I was more referring to those flopping in marking contests and throwing themselves back when feeling a tackle trying to milk a free

He didnt dive, he just didnt try and not fall over. Umpires warned a few hawks and oliver himself for retaliating. They had been targeting him and umpires were watching for the next one to put a stop to it. He went down easy but most players have gone down easier in their career, its just people will grade him harder since the west coast incident. He might not care what people think but he should be making sure he does nothing to get the media whirl wind going again. Because the umpires are easily influenced and if he's got the rep of a flopper, they'll let that influence decisions.

19 hours ago, layzie said:

The good thing is I don’t think this is spin, I really think he doesn’t give a toss at all. Bit like Matty Scarlett.

There is no reason for him to give a toss. Came out of virtually nowhere, best midfielder in the whole League, and basically only his second year. According to his mum, everyone said he was not up to AFL football standard. Got the mind on his performances, responsibilities and execution -  what could be better than that? No need to absorb the comments or disdain of others, at all.

 

Good on ya Clarry. 

 

Are you more likely to cop an injury from bracing flat-footed against an oncoming bump (Viney notwithstanding) or by relaxing the body and riding it - a la having soft hands in tennis?  

Not so long ago (or in different circumstances) Clarry would have been applauded for his footy smarts and professionalism for milking a free from the undisciplined actions of an opponent. 

The worst thing about this is that with Oliver saying he doesn't care what people think of him, it implies that he doesn't care either if people love him, and I just love him so damned much. 

 

10 hours ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Throughout the match you could hear the umpires repeatedly warning Hawthorn players about making contact with Oliver off the ball.  They chose to ignore the warnings and got pinged.

They were into Oliver all night. Particularly shiel, the dirty dog.

Early on shiel was all over him and I yelled out:

SHIEL, YOU'RE TWICE HIS NUMBER BUT HALF HIS QUALITY. 

I was pretty happy with myself but got no love from surrounding fans. 

Hard lad to phase though is our olly. Big smile on his dial through all the niggle

The essential quality emerging from our midfield is that they relish and thrive on the contest. So more agro from the opposition, the more they enjoy and the better they play. 

Oliver, Viney, Vanders, Harmes, Melksham, Hibberd, etc are all thriving as the pressure footy mounts. With Petracca, Brayshaw, Weid and others growing into it. 

What I love most about our team is that the players never winge or complain, they just roll up to the next contest and go harder when it doesnt go their way. In my view Goodwin sets this standard by never complaining about the umpiring which cascades to the playing group. Compare this to Geelong where the coach carries on like a pork chop, Danger flops around and Ablett winges when he cops some contact. To Selwoods credit he doesnt complain much. 

I haven't seen a player drafted to this club that just 'got' AFL footy from the first hour

Freak

Superstar

Brownlow bound

The media should take a look at some Melbourne replays and watch how many times a game Oliver gets held at the contest, with no free. Not once does he complain, whinge or remonstrate with the umpires.

Imagine if the same was done to Selwood, Dusty or Mitchell. 

On 9/18/2018 at 10:04 PM, BAMF said:

I dont think so. The contact was there. He just let it happen. He could have braced.

You dont know the difference ? Lol.

No mention of Burgoyne or Gunston for exaggerating  contact  on the below the knee frees?

What about Selwood grabbing his forehead when viney hit him in the chest?

That Selwood one was a disgrace - umpire totally sucked in.

On 9/19/2018 at 7:33 AM, Dr. Gonzo said:

Yep Mitchell initiated the contact, Oliver was just standing there.

What about the Hawks players diving forward in marking contests as if they'd been shoved in the back? Or flying over our players as if on ice so as to make out their legs were taken from under them? Or diving headfirst into our tackles so they could get a free for high contact?

What about the fact Oliver gets scragged at every single stoppage so has to compete for the ball with one arm half the time? Why is there no media coverage on that?

Maybe they were .... certainly this week's opponents will be.

On 9/19/2018 at 11:22 AM, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Throughout the match you could hear the umpires repeatedly warning Hawthorn players about making contact with Oliver off the ball.  They chose to ignore the warnings and got pinged.

Really pisses me off (mentioned earlier in this thread) that they warn - just give the friggin free and it will stop.

It was only labelled a dive because it was Oliver. If it was the majority of other players it would have gone practically unnoticed.

Just stupid