Finals Week 1 - Non-MFC Games

[brendan 3,437]

How Mitchell was the MVP Has me stuffed, not damaging enough and his role easily replaced, will probably bluff his way to the Brownlow aswell

[DV8 2,271]

1 hour ago, Win4theAges said:

Lets concentrate on Geelong first.

Absolutely !!!

[Guest]

That game showed you need to take your chances when they present themselves.

The Hawks were with Richmond in the first half but fluffed it when it really mattered. It reminded me a bit of our match against Sydney. The longer the match went, the bigger the seed of doubt the Tiges put in Hawthorn's head.

Edited September 6, 2018 by Colin B. Flaubert

[Deestar9 1,649]

At the risk of being “cried down”” I did a quick analysis of the last 5 games of the 8 finalists. To me Hawks got beaten by a top 4 side against a bottom 8 top 9 side ...5 to 6 goals...that is where the Hawks should have finished.  Likewise Collingwood should lose by a similar margin & Geelong...same.   Syd v GWS bit more toss of a coin.  We have the best run into finals improving incrementally every week.  The anomalies are of course...human fragility’s...how we perform on the day ...injuries..etc..l.but if the footy gods smile...I believe we are the only genuine contender to the Tigers..Go Dees❤️?

[layzie 34,011]

I can’t see Mitchell winning the Brownlow. People say he’s favourite but I don’t think he has the inside lane at all.

Edited September 6, 2018 by layzie

[Rod Grinter Riot Squad 5,654]

1 minute ago, layzie said:

I can’t see Mitchell winning the Brownlow. People say he’s favourite but I don’t think he has the inside lane at all.

Are you forgetting who votes for the Brownlow?

[layzie 34,011]

Just now, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said:

Are you forgetting who votes for the Brownlow?

Nope.

[Rod Grinter Riot Squad 5,654]

3 minutes ago, layzie said:

Nope.

Well then how can you not see Mitchell having the inside running, is voted on by umpires just after games, the umpires are not looking at or seeing the bigger picture, just Mitchell accumulating possessions. There is a reason why Blight was right in his criticism of the MVP, a similar case can be made for the Brownlow, it is why I rate the coaches award as being the best.

[layzie 34,011]

Because I don’t. He’ll be in the mix no doubt but to be favourite by a stretch doesn’t seem right, I think it is more even than that. They might see him accumulate but they also see the silky mids who damage and kick goals. Also this year I feel the two premier ruckman have been too good to ignore and will finally poll well. 

[Rod Grinter Riot Squad 5,654]

1 minute ago, layzie said:

Because I don’t. He’ll be in the mix no doubt but to be favourite by a stretch doesn’t seem right, I think it is more even than that. They might see him accumulate but they also see the silky mids who damage and kick goals. Also this year I feel the two premier ruckman have been too good to ignore and will finally poll well. 

I pretty much agree with everything you say, I just have no faith in the umpires

[layzie 34,011]

3 minutes ago, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said:

I pretty much agree with everything you say, I just have no faith in the umpires

Well I can see where you’re coming from there.

[Willmoy1947 4,140]

Threw away the whistles in the second quarter, of all times, when they realised they couldn't adjudicate the game because it was going too fast for them.......... poor dears!!

[DeezNuts 624]

Clarko made a great comment in the presser tonight, one Goody should hear: “tactics don’t make premiership teams, systems based teams win premierships.”

Melbourne is a systems based team, high pressure, contested ball, good set up behind the ball, ball played in forward half. We should stick to the 6:6:6 and back our game (system) in, and not get too creative Re: 8 behind the ball etc... 

 

Edited September 6, 2018 by DeezNuts

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,708]

2 hours ago, brendan said:

How Mitchell was the MVP Has me stuffed, not damaging enough and his role easily replaced, will probably bluff his way to the Brownlow aswell

If he wins the Brownlow that would cheapen the award and prestige around it. Gawny has had 10 times the impact than the Gazza cheap possession wanna be.

[Diamond_Jim 12,628]

Feeling good against the Hawks... if we get there.

GWS play a possession game reliant upon great skills albeit they play  a lot faster then Hawthorn. We were able to shut down GWS so hopeful we could do the same against the Hawks.

Tigers deny teams the corridor which is so important to quick ball movement.

Frankly I had expected a better game from Hawthorn.

[PaulRB 6,411]

Tigers remind me of the all conquering smug Cats of 2008... and we all know how that went. ? 

[SFebes 4,884]

If Dees and Pies win, dare to dream....

[SFebes 4,884]

8 minutes ago, PaulRB said:

Tigers remind me of the all conquering smug Cats of 2008... and we all know how that went. ? 

They're certainly very beatable, all their key stats and indicators are down on last year.

[beelzebub 23,383]

For all they do well..the Hawks played a less than brilliant strategy... against a marauding team...in the WET !!

Strange stuff up by Clarko really.

We'll beat them next week

[Diamond_Jim 12,628]

24 minutes ago, SFebes said:

If Dees and Pies win, dare to dream....

that is the key perhaps... WCE to beat Toiges and then the GF against a nervous WCE.

Lot of dreamin' though before those ducks are all in a row

[Diamond_Jim 12,628]

Just now, beelzebub said:

For all they do well..the Hawks played a less than brilliant strategy... against a marauding team...in the WET !!

Strange stuff up by Clarko really.

We'll beat them next week

way too slow... could not help but wonder where all that break away speed was that they used to smash us in similar conditions

[beelzebub 23,383]

19 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

way too slow... could not help but wonder where all that break away speed was that they used to smash us in similar conditions

It struck me the Toiges were just relentless...the Hawks tried to control the tempo and keep possession. Didn't work.. Richmond just kept at it....coursing forward...like a tide.

Edited September 6, 2018 by beelzebub

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,408]

13 hours ago, chook fowler said:

I can’t see how some think we can beat Richmond. Hawthorn on the other hand are very gettable.

A more skilful side that matches their intensity for the whole game. How many of their goals in the first half came from marks inside 50 and many from opportunities created from manic forward 50 entries (McIntosh kicked his first from an easy chest mark, I stopped watching after 3/4 time) They set up well but are not unbeatable.

I still think we along with the Eagles can trouble them.

Edited September 7, 2018 by Bombay Airconditioning

[Superunknown 4,223]

2 hours ago, beelzebub said:

For all they do well..the Hawks played a less than brilliant strategy... against a marauding team...in the WET !!

Strange stuff up by Clarko really.

We'll beat them next week

Please can you ship your time machine up here I have some teenage dalliances I'd like to shape a bit differently

(because you have evidently hopped into your hot tub time machine and assured yourself of victory)

Cats far from a right off

Lots of bathwater swishing around the media

[Diamond_Jim 12,628]

Interesting aside to last nights game was the ruck duels ... or more appropriately... the irrelevance of the ruck duels.

Tends to support the idea that no specialist ruck is better than a mediocre one who doesn't impact around the ground.