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  On 10/08/2018 at 23:55, demonstone said:

Interesting story, and seeing as the year was 1974 the coach referred in less than glowing terms was R. Skilton.

If that is the case then this also says plenty. Surely this can't be the case??

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    Depends. Whether he was talking about the thug or the thumped! 

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      On 11/08/2018 at 03:17, Sir Why You Little said:

    Couldn’t agree more, but it is still a sad sight to see a Leigh Matthews statue outside the MCG

    And I Believe that prior to it’s erection Don Cordner -(who I think was MCC President at the time) opposed it, apparently saying something along the lines of not wanting a criminals statue outside the ground.

    Steve Smith’s mum chased Matthews around a supermarket soon after that incident with her son, giving him a bit of what for.

     

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      On 11/08/2018 at 03:57, Dee Dee said:

    And I Believe that prior to it’s erection Don Cordner -(who I think was MCC President at the time) opposed it, apparently saying something along the lines of not wanting a criminals statue outside the ground.

    Steve Smith’s mum chased Matthews around a supermarket soon after that incident with her son, giving him a bit of what for.

     

    As i said a few months ago, i had a chance meeting with Matthews about 20 years ago. 

    I didn’t say a lot, but he knew exactly what i meant...

    A low life of the highest order

    I would have paid a months wages to see him chased around a Supermarket, by an irate mother. 

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      On 11/08/2018 at 01:52, Dr. Gonzo said:

    Hawthorne been full of them over the years. They've also won a premiership every 4 years over the past 4 decades...

    I’d rather finish last and have nice mummies boys..

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      On 11/08/2018 at 02:49, Vogon Poetry said:

    But just because blokes like Matthews and Brereton were thugs doesn't mean their opinions aren't relevant or they don't have great knowledge of the game. In fact, they probably have a better understanding of football violence and it's motives than most.

    Good thing is we can ignore Derm based solely on the tripe he talks now.

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      On 11/08/2018 at 05:27, Supermercado said:

    Good thing is we can ignore Derm based solely on the tripe he talks now.

    I look at Derm a bit differently. He's like an alien species that you just know you could learn from if only you could decipher his cryptic language.

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      On 11/08/2018 at 05:38, Chook said:

    I look at Derm a bit differently. He's like an alien species that you just know you could learn from if only you could decipher his cryptic language.

    I agree with that, somewhere deep down he knows what he's talking about but can't just say it straight out and has to detour everything he says via Broome.

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      On 11/08/2018 at 00:12, Delusional demon 82 said:

    I read somewhere that Neville Bruns has tried on a number of occasions to speak with leathal and every time he’s not wanted a bar of him. Says alot IMO . Kind of puts the gaff and Bugg incidents in perspective , both very remorseful and sorry for their actions, and thinking of the victim and the impact of their actions 

    Lethal on the other hand was probably just sorry he got caught . On 100 years of Australian footy video (about 20 years ago) he talks about the incident and his first thought was “why did I do that... and oh no ... they’ll be coming” . 

    No wonder he used the phrase “if it bleeds it can be killed” in 2001. But that’s ok the AFL put a statue of him outside the mcg so we should get his opinions on a red card system 

    The lethal hit on bruns may have been personal  surrounding possible issues about a 3rd party who was playing for geelong or living there at the time. 

    Might be more complex than a simple hit behind play. One wonders why lethal refuses to speak to bruns which may be a clue.

    But who would know apart from both parties.

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      On 11/08/2018 at 03:17, Sir Why You Little said:

    Couldn’t agree more, but it is still a sad sight to see a Leigh Matthews statue outside the MCG

    No it's not.  The greatest player in history deserves a statue.

    It was a very different era with different standards.  I hate it when people try and judge different eras on today's standards.

    I know you'll say that you're not doing that and that you thought the same way back then.  Great.  We all have different opinions.  I reckon it's great that he has a statue and he thoroughly deserves it.

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      On 11/08/2018 at 07:12, ProDee said:

    No it's not.  The greatest player in history deserves a statue.

    It was a very different era with different standards.  I hate it when people try and judge different eras on today's standards.

    I know you'll say that you're not doing that and that you thought the same way back then.  Great.  We all have different opinions.  I reckon it's great that he has a statue and he thoroughly deserves it.

    You are free to stand and worship it anytime you like ProDee. 

    I have better things to do

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    mathews was quizzed on 3aw for quite some time on the mcmullin article in the age

    fwiw (not much actually) matthews denied bruns had ever contacted him for a meeting and he also claimed he couldn't recall the mcmullins incident saying it was 44 years ago.................hmmmmmmmmmm

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      On 11/08/2018 at 07:20, daisycutter said:

    mathews was quizzed on 3aw for quite some time on the mcmullin article in the age

    fwiw (not much actually) matthews denied bruns had ever contacted him for a meeting and he also claimed he couldn't recall the mcmullins incident saying it was 44 years ago.................hmmmmmmmmmm

    The exact answer i would expect from that man...

    A Statue of him stands at the ground i am a Member of. 

    “Not Happy, Jan”

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    I worked with Neil McMullen - he was a respected paediatric surgeon.

    i had no idea about this story and it is interesting he is no longer practicing medicine but has become a player manager.

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      On 11/08/2018 at 07:22, ProDee said:

    Thanks ?

    I am not denying the guy could play. 

    But he was also a vicious thug, who won’t face up to it now when questioned. 

     

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      On 11/08/2018 at 07:26, Sir Why You Little said:

    I am not denying the guy could play. 

    But he was also a vicious thug, who won’t face up to it now when questioned. 

     

    He's admitted the Bruns incident was way out of line.

    He doesn't now need to comment on what happened decades ago every time a snowflake wants him to grovel.

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      On 11/08/2018 at 07:29, ProDee said:

    He's admitted the Bruns incident was way out of line.

    He doesn't now need to comment on what happened decades ago every time a snowflake wants him to grovel.

    That’s your opinion. 

    Stephen Smith Still gets headaches to this day, i am not sure about Peter Giles or McMullin. 

    I saw the Stephen Smith hit at the ground. It was pure thuggery, planned and executed

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      On 11/08/2018 at 07:33, Sir Why You Little said:

    That’s your opinion. 

    Stephen Smith Still gets headaches to this day, i am not sure about Peter Giles or McMullin. 

    I saw the Stephen Smith hit at the ground. It was pure thuggery, planned and executed

    Firstly, what do you expect him to say and how often ?

    Secondly, it's drawing a stupid bow to pinpoint every headache Smith gets on a decades old Matthews incident.  Smith played 200 games and got plenty of head knocks in those 200 games.

    It's fair to say that I don't buy it.  You're welcome to...

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    I was in Neil’s year in medical school. Went to the match to see him play and was sickened by the incident. Have hated that thug Matthews ever since. 

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      On 11/08/2018 at 07:38, ProDee said:

    Firstly, what do you expect him to say and how often ?

    Secondly, it's drawing a stupid bow to pinpoint every headache Smith gets on a decades old Matthews incident.  Smith played 200 games and got plenty of head knocks in those 200 games.

    It's fair to say that I don't buy it.  You're welcome to...

    You enjoy that statue ProDee. 

    His headaches are a direct result of the Matthews hit. 

    His words to Mike Shehan a couple of years ago

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      On 11/08/2018 at 07:43, Sir Why You Little said:

    You enjoy that statue ProDee. 

    His headaches are a direct result of the Matthews hit. 

    His words to Mike Shehan a couple of years ago

    You didn't answer my question, "What do you expect him to say and how often" ?

    And no, I don't accept that every headache he gets is from the Matthews incident from decades ago.  He played 200 games of footy.

    It's silly and doesn't make sense.  I doubt he told Sheahan that and even if he did it doesn't make me believe it's true.

    And even if it was true, it doesn't make the hit any worse.  It is what it is.

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      On 11/08/2018 at 07:57, ProDee said:

    You didn't answer my question, "What do you expect him to say and how often" ?

    And no, I don't accept that every headache he gets is from the Matthews incident from decades ago.  He played 200 games of footy.

    It's silly and doesn't make sense.  I doubt he told Sheahan that and even if he did it doesn't make me believe it's true.

    And even if it was true, it doesn't make the hit any worse.  It is what it is.

    I expect him to face up to what HE did, whether it was yesterday or 45 years ago. 

    You doubt he told Mike Sheahan that during his “Open Mike” episode, wtf does that mean when i have watched the episode more than once

    You are wrong. Sheahan asked him about the direct incident and Smith gave a very detailed account. 

    Google is your friend...

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      On 11/08/2018 at 08:07, Sir Why You Little said:

    I expect him to face up to what HE did, whether it was yesterday or 45 years ago. 

    You doubt he told Mike Sheahan that during his “Open Mike” episode, wtf does that mean when i have watched the episode more than once

    You are wrong. Sheahan asked him about the direct incident and Smith gave a very detailed account. 

    Google is your friend...

    He has faced up to it.  How often do you want him to ?

    I'll take your word for it that he told Sheahan what you say, unless it was said in a joking fashion, but it changes nothing for me.

    He wouldn't accurately be able to align every frigging headache with an incident from decades ago.  

    And even if he could, so what ?  The incident is what it is.  

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