1 minute ago, Skuit said:

No change. 

This is the right balance. 

The balance was much better, but not all the cogs are contributing.

27 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

Out. J Smith

In. Vince

Would love to drop Lewis and ANB but don’t see an obvious replacement.

I see this as the logical change for next week.  Smith just seems off the pace and Bernie can play for us all over the ground.  Hard to make too many changes outside of that.  Reckon ANB survives for another week.

Put Baker in and  play him against Ed Richards.....a ginger off.

I thought  Smith was playing well until plonked in the forward line. I don't think you can expect him to nail his first game in the forward line with sweet fa preparation.

2 minutes ago, Radar Detector said:

The balance was much better, but not all the cogs are contributing.

I agree. But not all cogs will always fully contribute at once. The improved balance allows our important ones to though. 

32 minutes ago, Deeoldfart said:

I'm a Nibbler fan, but he has to go for mine.  In Bernie.

A fan, interesting. 2 misses from 15 out directly in front, missed marks, missed handballs, missed tackles, misdirected kicks, knocked off the ball several times, lacking in pace and this wasn't his worst game and you are a fan, that's nice.

1 minute ago, Skuit said:

I agree. But not all cogs will always fully contribute at once. The improved balance allows our important ones to though. 

I definitely agree with this. But there are a few in extended runs of very average form and at least two youngsters who look too raw right now. Even incremental upgrades can improve the dynamics of the team.

 

3 minutes ago, Roger Mellie said:

I thought  Smith was playing well until plonked in the forward line. I don't think you can expect him to nail his first game in the forward line with sweet fa preparation.

And Hogan kept getting in his way. 

1 minute ago, Skuit said:

And Hogan kept getting in his way. 

Selfish

1 minute ago, Radar Detector said:

I definitely agree with this. But there are a few in extended runs of very average form and at least two youngsters who look too raw right now. Even incremental upgrades can improve the dynamics of the team.

 

And I agree with this. But lets make our incremental upgrades incrementally. 

okay so you want ANB out

who comes in?

Bugg...no votes it seems

JKH: Has failed every time at AFL level

Balic: I think not

Kent; Too early

IMO ANB stays

Goodwin's stubbornness kills me. 

25 minutes ago, davo said:

Honestly don’t know what’s going on with ANB, he’s been average or below for most of the year but he’s played every game, don’t think he’s missed a game since Goodwin became coach 

His body language is someone who knows he's under pressure, i know he's injured atm but i would take Jayden Hunt in a heart beat everyday of the week over ANB.

4 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

okay so you want ANB out

who comes in?

Bugg...no votes it seems

JKH: Has failed every time at AFL level

Balic: I think not

Kent; Too early

IMO ANB stays

For me if he wasnt Injured Jayden.

17 minutes ago, Demon_spurs said:

Put Baker in and  play him against Ed Richards.....a ginger off.

So bakes goes alright does he? close to selection?

25 minutes ago, Watts Jurrah Dunn? said:

In: JKH

Out: Smith

Need run on the 'G, especially with heavy legs after Darwin. Pedersen, Tim Smith and Tyson are not the answer.

 

I like that but we also need fresh legs: In- JKH,Vince   Out: Smith, Spargo

17 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

okay so you want ANB out

who comes in?

Anyone who can hold a chest mark.

1 hour ago, Nasher said:

What was wrong with Lewis other than the stray elbow?

 

Joel Smith - thought he was ok down back but looked to be hobbling and was sent forward, where he did some good and some bad (getting in the way, what's new). Can't carry injured guys coming back from Darwin
Lewis - Same old, same older
ANB - needs a run in the 2's for his own sake, just no confidence right now
Melksham - another game without a tackle, just drifting around, needs a rocket put up him to get back to the form he was in a month ago

In:
Vince - in Lewis' role
Hannan - in for Melksham, playing up the ground using his run, his intensity at Casey today was excellent, a cut above with speed
JKH - in for ANB, couldn't be any worse
Baker - in playing wing/forward, move Harmes to half back as they did tonight

Not sure how may of the 4 should happen, and the safe option is probably just Vince for Smith, but there were 4 guys tonight and really for 3 of them over the last month who haven't been up to it.

 

Outs from:  Smith, Lewis, Fritch, Melksham, Spargo, Garlett

6 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Joel Smith - thought he was ok down back but looked to be hobbling and was sent forward, where he did some good and some bad (getting in the way, what's new). Can't carry injured guys coming back from Darwin
Lewis - Same old, same older
ANB - needs a run in the 2's for his own sake, just no confidence right now
Melksham - another game without a tackle, just drifting around, needs a rocket put up him to get back to the form he was in a month ago

In:
Vince - in Lewis' role
Hannan - in for Melksham, playing up the ground using his run, his intensity at Casey today was excellent, a cut above with speed
JKH - in for ANB, couldn't be any worse
Baker - in playing wing/forward, move Harmes to half back as they did tonight

Not sure how may of the 4 should happen, and the safe option is probably just Vince for Smith, but there were 4 guys tonight and really for 3 of them over the last month who haven't been up to it.

 

We'll need to bring in 3 to 4 with fresh legs, and stamina.

Gosh, you blokes are being a bit harsh on J. Smith. 

Sent forward where he hasn't played before and competed. Sure he didn't completely gel. 

'The ball was like a bar of soap tonight' - Max Gawn. 

The reason he was sent forward was that in the slippery conditions we needed extra focus on the deck. 

Hogan and Tmac don't have the burst or agility to trap it in. 

Smith's second efforts were notable. Seven tackles. 

Tackles inside-50 aren't just an individual thing. Pressure leads pressure and everyone has to work together at once. 

We doubled our inside-50 tackle count from last week. 

Lewis won't get dropped. Nor should he be.

Don't think there'll be many changes, apart from Tyson (big game today it seems) I'm not even sure who there is at Casey who's pushing for inclusion the way the likes of Stretch were. Perhaps Vince, but then for the whole season, people had been calling for Vince to be dropped so ...

I didn't see all of the game but even if ANB was bad I'd be surprised if he got dropped. His strengths are the teams' weaknesses.

He is one of the hardest two way runners, regularly is in the top 5 on the ground for stats like distance covered, average speed in defence, total time at high speed, average speed in defence, etc. He was in those groups today too. He also led the team for pressure acts.

All this despite having the least time on ground of any demon. 

Given we generally suck at running hard after our opponents, he is invaluable.  And if he kicked 3.0 instead of 1.2 tonight we'd all be singing his praises. 

Smith was sent forward after getting a minor injury, Goody confirmed in his post match