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The issue isn't our collective performance. Comparing it to past years when we have lost is pointless because we were crap and would have lost regardless. This is about conditioning and unnecessary physical strain during what is already a long marathon. Yes, let's travel to Darwin in round 15 ffs!

I'd rather be playing these two games one after the other, leading into a bye.

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    1 hour ago, Diamond_Jim said:

    If you can find me one sports scientist or professional coach that says that playing in Darwin is a good idea (and by that I don't mean a neutral opinion) then I will agree. Football is a game of inches and we need every advantage we can get.

    Playing in Darwin is not an advantage.

    If you can find one that states the recent game caused the 3 most recent injuries I’ll eat my hat. 

    How many injuries did Freo pick up this week? 

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    31 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

    If you can find one that states the recent game caused the 3 most recent injuries I’ll eat my hat. 

    How many injuries did Freo pick up this week? 

    find a post by me that says it caused the injuries ... no you won't find one.

    Playing in 28 degree heat and 80% humidity is not conducive to maximum fitness for a Melbourne based team. That's what I said.

    We go for the money... there is no other reason whatsoever and it is time it stopped.

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    19 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

    find a post by me that says it caused the injuries ... no you won't find one.

    Playing in 28 degree heat and 80% humidity is not conducive to maximum fitness for a Melbourne based team. That's what I said.

    We go for the money... there is no other reason whatsoever and it is time it stopped.

    Same reason hawks play in tassy.

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    3 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

    Gives the opposition a massive fitness advantage.

    When?

    We won the game in Alice Springs easily.
    We won the game in Darwin easily.
    We won the game after Darwin easily, running away with it in the second half.
    It's a long bow to suggest Darwin will still be a factor this weekend.

    Where's the massive fitness advantage to the opposition?

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    10 minutes ago, mauriesy said:

    When?

    We won the game in Alice Springs easily.
    We won the game in Darwin easily.
    We won the game after Darwin easily, running away with it in the second half.
    It's a long bow to suggest Darwin will still be a factor this weekend.

    Where's the massive fitness advantage to the opposition?

    Maybe you haven’t been in the Red Center. 

    I have and it changes the bodies metabolism, even for a short time. 

    I would rather those 2 HOME GAMES were played in Melbourne 

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    8 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

    Maybe you haven’t been in the Red Center. 

    I have and it changes the bodies metabolism, even for a short time. 

    I would rather those 2 HOME GAMES were played in Melbourne 

    Yeah, like spending the past 50 years playing in Melbourne has proven so successful for us.   We ought to protest at these away games

     

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    9 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

    Maybe you haven’t been in the Red Center. 

    I have and it changes the bodies metabolism, even for a short time. 

    I would rather those 2 HOME GAMES were played in Melbourne 

    Do you understand the difference between anecdotal evidence and actual research? This is not the first time this week I’ve seen you call on your very narrow personal experience to draw a very wide conclusion.

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    If we get less than 24000 at the G for a home game it actually costs the Club money. That  is break-even in the existing structure.

    So transferring  home games to NT where we are given a Sh*^tload of cash makes perfect commercial sense

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    14 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

     Football is a game of inches and we need every advantage we can get.

    Playing in Darwin is not an advantage.

    It's not inches, it's margins!

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    17 minutes ago, jackaub said:

    If we get less than 24000 at the G for a home game it actually costs the Club money. That  is break-even in the existing structure.

    So transferring  home games to NT where we are given a Sh*^tload of cash makes perfect commercial sense

    Unless it costs us finals

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    9 hours ago, DV8 said:

    Yeah, like spending the past 50 years playing in Melbourne has proven so successful for us.   We ought to protest at these away games

     

    To be fair, it's not like we've been playing at our rightful home ground, Fortress Docklands

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    11 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

    Maybe you haven’t been in the Red Center. 

    I have and it changes the bodies metabolism, even for a short time.

    Oh FCS, I've walked the Larapinta trail in July and the weather is very pleasant. Not much different to physical activity anywhere else.

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    On 7/8/2018 at 2:07 PM, dieter said:

    This is not about streaking....

    Shame, gate receipts could be quite stunningly magnified if it was about streaking. 

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    12 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

    Maybe you haven’t been in the Red Center. 

    I have and it changes the bodies metabolism, even for a short time. 

    I would rather those 2 HOME GAMES were played in Melbourne 

    Utter Rubbish, and everyone would rather those two games be played inn Melbourne but there was and is a very good reason why that is so. I don't know why people keep questioning it.

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    3 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

    Utter Rubbish, and everyone would rather those two games be played inn Melbourne but there was and is a very good reason why that is so. I don't know why people keep questioning it.

    Yes we know its Cash $$$, but there are other ways to generate income streams

    and no it is not utter rubbish btw...

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    17 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

    Yes we know its Cash $$$, but there are other ways to generate income streams

    and no it is not utter rubbish btw...

    If you are talking about the red center you are talking about Alice Springs only, and their weather is similar to Mildura's.

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    5 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

    If you are talking about the red center you are talking about Alice Springs only, and their weather is similar to Mildura's.

    Yeah ok. Whatever you say....

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    3 hours ago, timbo said:

    To be fair, it's not like we've been playing at our rightful home ground, Fortress Docklands

    We've been winning at Docklands since last year I think, because of our contested ball winners, and our ability to defend and 2 way running.

    We've won at Alice Springs and Darwin.  And the follow up game.

    It's not all about revenue for the club.

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    But it is about exposure on TV. To attract new supporters and Kids.  

     

    And it helps break public perception of a white-Australia elitist sort of club.   Which we need to do.

     

     

    The club has drifted away, over the past 50 odd years, from being an open club, to be too heavily focused on members and elitism's.

    This needs to stop, because its a roadblock to many Aussies. And new Australians, and Our Original 1st people Australians.

     

    IMO as we've become an easy beat team over the decades;,,,  we've gradually lost our 'Outer' Fan base of normal Aussies... and only held our rusted on members mainly in the North,,,  like the Mcc.

     

    This inturn effects all the Board decisions taken over the past 50 years... as the majority of directors have Mcc approval and references from our very own high profile supporters who frequent that establishment.

     

    This inturn does not help to Re-grow our outer fan base,,, by reopening the club to allow access to the outer fans.

     

    This desired exclusivity is just that..... exclusionary.

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    8 minutes ago, DV8 said:

    We've been winning at Docklands since last year I think, because of our contested ball winners, and our ability to defend and 2 way running.

    We've won at Alice Springs and Darwin.  And the follow up game.

    It's not all about revenue for the club.

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    But it is about exposure on TV. To attract new supporters and Kids.  

     

    And it helps break public perception of a white-Australia elitist sort of club.   Which we need to do.

     

     

    The club has drifted away, over the past 50 odd years, from being an open club, to be too heavily focused on members and elitism's.

    This needs to stop, because its a roadblock to many Aussies. And new Australians, and Our Original 1st people Australians.

     

    IMO as we've become an easy beat team over the decades;,,,  we've gradually lost our 'Outer' Fan base of normal Aussies... and only held our rusted on members mainly in the North,,,  like the Mcc.

     

    This inturn effects all the Board decisions taken over the past 50 years... as the majority of directors have Mcc approval and references from our very own high profile supporters who frequent that establishment.

     

    This inturn does not help to Re-grow our outer fan base,,, by reopening the club to allow access to the outer fans.

     

    This desired exclusivity is just that..... exclusionary.

    TV Exposure??

    the game was on Foxtel

    Free to air TV was busy with Cooking Shows

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    15 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

    TV Exposure??

    the game was on Foxtel

    Free to air TV was busy with Cooking Shows

    Past seasons we've been on free to air.  Alice was free2air.

     

    I don't watch foxtel, unless its put on in front of me.  I will never; never pay, for TV !!!

     

     

    .....   if free2air dies,  my record and DVD collection beckon, as will my little boat. and the garden.

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    22 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

    TV Exposure??

    the game was on Foxtel

    Last time I saw, Foxtel was TV.

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    24 minutes ago, mauriesy said:

    Last time I saw, Foxtel was TV.

    No, it’s a Rupert Murdoch subscriber Network

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    1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

    No, it’s a Rupert Murdoch subscriber Network

    I didn't realise a TV knows where the signal comes from when someone watches it.

    So, how many people watch an AFL game on Foxtel? Do you know? What about all the people who might watch it on AFL Live (like me)? Or who stream it otherwise on an internet channel? What about everyone who watches Foxtel in pubs and clubs?

    You need to update your idea of "television" in terms of exposure.

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