Just on the rance dive, I think the more unsettling thing is the umpire fell for it, if he doesn’t get double the fine Sinclair got I will be [censored] 

1 hour ago, Lord Travis said:

No concrete news yet, but there was a clip on afl.com of him leaving the hospital/doctors being harassed by journalist and he was walking unaided with a barely noticeable limp. When probed if he'd done his ACL he said not sure and doctor wasn't sure and he didn't wanna talk about it further. I feel if it was full blown ACL he'd have been on crutches? I'm still hopeful it's just a strain and he'll be back after 4-6 weeks.

Clip of Lever is in the first part of this video http://www.afl.com.au/video/2018-06-03/rance-will-be-embarrassed

Also, great to see Rance come under attention in a negative way for once. The guy's a dirty cheating piece of sh*t, and probably the most over-rated player in the history of the game. Never seen a guy get so much praise for losing so many one-on-one contests. When I checked 2 weeks back, he had conceded the second most amount of goals out of all full backs this season, despite Richmond flying!

We can hope...

Unfortunately in David Schwartz’s book, I think he said that after his third acl injury he was able to go camping and fishing between the injury and the scans/confirmation.

5 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

We can hope...

Unfortunately in David Schwartz’s book, I think he said that after his third acl injury he was able to go camping and fishing between the injury and the scans/confirmation.

Must say I am having flashbacks to the Schwartz injuries. Very good player but never the same after those knee injuries. What might have been!

Edited June 3, 20187 yr by Diamond_Jim

Interesting thing with repeat ACL ruptures. The physical test we use to assess ACL patency is the 'Lachman's' test, and in my experience and statistically, they reveal more 'give' on reconstructed knees than non. If the tests pre-MRI are suggesting some laxity with inconclusive 'end-feel' (when the ligament snaps tight), it's not easy to be definitive. If the MRI is now inconclusive, I'd suggest he'll now have a sneaky arthroscopy to get the real status of the ACL. I'll admit that as much as you can rupture an ACL in innocuous fashion, yesterday's was particularly innocuous. My first thought was a meniscal tear (cartilage), given it may have been vulnerable post first reconstruction. That would be a whole lot better, so here's hoping. 

Didn’t Dale Morris do one pre-season and play yesterday?

Just now, radar said:

Didn’t Dale Morris do one pre-season and play yesterday?

Partial tear, and because he's 35 years old, they decided to roll the dice and leave it un-reconstructed. Don't be surprised if it doesn't hold up. 

8 minutes ago, Webber said:

Interesting thing with repeat ACL ruptures. The physical test we use to assess ACL patency is the 'Lachman's' test, and in my experience and statistically, they reveal more 'give' on reconstructed knees than non. If the tests pre-MRI are suggesting some laxity with inconclusive 'end-feel' (when the ligament snaps tight), it's not easy to be definitive. If the MRI is now inconclusive, I'd suggest he'll now have a sneaky arthroscopy to get the real status of the ACL. I'll admit that as much as you can rupture an ACL in innocuous fashion, yesterday's was particularly innocuous. My first thought was a meniscal tear (cartilage), given it may have been vulnerable post first reconstruction. That would be a whole lot better, so here's hoping. 

Fascinating Webber.

Years ago I remember hearing that many NFL players had knee surgery as a preventative action much like having your tonsils or appendix out before heading to Antarctica. Do you know if that still happens?

 

1 minute ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Fascinating Webber.

Years ago I remember hearing that many NFL players had knee surgery as a preventative action much like having your tonsils or appendix out before heading to Antarctica. Do you know if that still happens?

 

Nope, and never did. Must have been some other 'preventative' surgery. 

6 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Fascinating Webber.

Years ago I remember hearing that many NFL players had knee surgery as a preventative action much like having your tonsils or appendix out before heading to Antarctica. Do you know if that still happens?

 

Unless you're talking about meniscal removal, which I can imagine maybe in the 1960's. If so, they'd all be having knee replacements within 20 years and enjoying a massive class action payout. But then it is the U,S of A! 

Not sure if posted but

 

 

Is this even his real twitter account lol, saw Kane Cornes retweet

E: Apparently his previous knee injury is making it tough to assess the damage and seriousness. 

Edited June 3, 20187 yr by MurDoc516

4 minutes ago, Webber said:

Unless you're talking about meniscal removal, which I can imagine maybe in the 1960's. If so, they'd all be having knee replacements within 20 years and enjoying a massive class action payout. But then it is the U,S of A! 

Yep that's about when it was... in the early '70's.

IIRC the premise was that lateral movement was not important for NFL whereas the risk of a tear during a game was considered a greater evil.

Thanks..

12 hours ago, Drunkn167 said:

Gutted for Jake, was just finding some great form too. Hopefully it isn't a full ACL tear.

As for his replacement, Frost is probably the most likely given his similar role and AFL experience. But we'll have to see how the 3 talls, Frost, Keilty and Petty, play tomorrow to see who is really putting their hand up.

Optimistically, if Keilty has a big game tomorrow, it would be a dream come true to see him debut in a big game like the Queen's birthday, to see if he has what it takes to play at Senior level. Over the last 4 weeks I would say Keilty is probably the most in-form in the VFL of the defenders, but it's a pretty close run. 

I am about 80% sure Frost will get the gig, but damn It'd be great to see Dec get a run at it.

I agree Dkn167. Hopefully not a full tear.

I also think Keilty could be handy as the intercept, but overlooking Frost may not go down well in team harmony.

It will be an interesting next week to see which way things go.

 

Maybe lever will be reborn?    Could Harrison possibly get a gig?

more talk on 3aw re lever and inconclusive mri from lingy (source lever family)

meeting with specialist now, maybe more scans

lever and family confident

Confirmed as a full rupture fmd

1 minute ago, Return to Glory said:

Confirmed as a full rupture fmd

where? 

Just now, qwerty7 said:

where? 

Pre game c7 just a moment ago.

9 minutes ago, Return to Glory said:

Confirmed as a full rupture fmd

No reports yet on Twitter. Ch7 are not usually that quick to report 

Just now, bandicoot said:

No reports yet on Twitter. Ch7 are not usually that quick to report 

I agree. I'm only assuming they were pretty bloody confident when BT announced it.

Just now, Return to Glory said:

I agree. I'm only assuming they were pretty bloody confident when BT announced it.

Ok. BT wouldn’t be false reporting as he knows the family well. 

He may have been told Not Confirmed as a full rupture and just heard it wrong. I'm going to wait for the club to put out a statement.

I see that Darling of the WCE may also have a serious injury.

How does Richmond do it !!!

Feel horrible for the young man. The club will be keen to wrap it's arms around him and let's hope he bounces back.

 

Just now, Mr Steve said:

He may have been told Not Confirmed as a full rupture and just heard it wrong. I'm going to wait for the club to put out a statement.

You may be clutching Mr Steve. Hoped I misheard but don't think so.

Just now, Return to Glory said:

You may be clutching Mr Steve. Hoped I misheard but don't think so.

He did say It was confirmed, but I'm a Melbourne supporter and have been clutching at any sign of hope for a long long time.