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10 minutes ago, small but forward said:

That’s a bit condescending I reckon Febes, Weids does crack in

For god sake mate, it was a joke clearly and taking the P out of soft Demons supporters. If you haven't noticed I'm a Weid fan and have been providing his stats recently when everyone has been bagging him, I didnt say he doesn't have a crack either, I actually think he does. But I hope we don't have another Dawes on our hands and hope he starts clunking a few marks. It's a confidence thing with being a key forward, once it clicks then we'll know, he's only 21. I've actually watched his ruck work and think he does better than OK too, which did surprise me.

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    28 minutes ago, MSFebey said:

    For god sake mate, it was a joke clearly and taking the P out of soft Demons supporters. If you haven't noticed I'm a Weid fan and have been providing his stats recently when everyone has been bagging him, I didnt say he doesn't have a crack either, I actually think he does. But I hope we don't have another Dawes on our hands and hope he starts clunking a few marks. It's a confidence thing with being a key forward, once it clicks then we'll know, he's only 21. I've actually watched his ruck work and think he does better than OK too, which did surprise me.

    My apologies Febes, a bit early in the morning. I reckon he’s the quintessential project player, all the signs are there; I’m confident he will come good (including his contested marking)

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    He is so young, just 21 last month, not many tall forwards have done well by this age.

    If he comes in his performance will not necessarily be rated on marks and goals, but his ability to fit into out system.

    Jesse has been slammed by jono brown for poor leading patterns which impacts the team. Positioning and leading to the wrong areas can cause inside 50's to be marked by opposition or can cause the ball to be kicked on your head (see heeney mark) AND it can clog space for our other forwards to lead.

    If Weid can lead at the right time and create space for TMAC, and bring the ball to ground when the ball is kicked to a contest then that is good enough at this point.

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    1 minute ago, small but forward said:

    My apologies Febes, a bit early in the morning. I reckon he’s the quintessential project player, all the signs are there; I’m confident he will come good (including his contested marking)

    He's only 21, how long did it take Hawkins etc, I'm not giving up on him yet, which way he'll go we don't know. If Hogan does go back to WA we need him to be a success though.

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    1 hour ago, small but forward said:

    My apologies Febes, a bit early in the morning. I reckon he’s the quintessential project player, all the signs are there; I’m confident he will come good (including his contested marking)

    He might come good in a couple of years. This is not the time to experiment and get game time into a player who has not so far been AFL standard when he plays in the seniors.

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    8 minutes ago, Stormy Dee said:

    He might come good in a couple of years. This is not the time to experiment and get game time into a player who has not so far been AFL standard when he plays in the seniors.

    Thankyou. Some sense 

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    5 minutes ago, Stormy Dee said:

    He might come good in a couple of years. This is not the time to experiment and get game time into a player who has not so far been AFL standard when he plays in the seniors.

    I tend to agree. It’s been stated already but if we don’t counter McGovern we’re going to get done.  The big marking babkmen are killing us as opp sides drop numbers bk to counter our clearance rates. They then attack us from half back. All potential aside...Is weird the right guy to bring in FOR THIS GAME is my question. 

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    As usual on this site, posters will see what they want to because the reality stinks.

    weidemann is a bust. KPF take a while but the good ones show potential in the meantime and any astute footy observer can see it.

    Highlighting 6 tackles for a KPF is really clutching for straws. Half of us could go out and lay tackles.

    move him on

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    5 minutes ago, Fitz Fitzpatrick said:

    As usual on this site, posters will see what they want to because the reality stinks.

    weidemann is a bust. KPF take a while but the good ones show potential in the meantime and any astute footy observer can see it.

    Highlighting 6 tackles for a KPF is really clutching for straws. Half of us could go out and lay tackles.

    move him on

    He’s had some very good games at VFL level where he has kicked multiple goals.

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    13 minutes ago, Stormy Dee said:

    He’s had some very good games at VFL level where he has kicked multiple goals.

    He has had a couple against teams like Coburg who are hardly even VFL standard. In recent weeks he has performed a little better but hardly knocking the door down for selection at senior level. He should be allowed to play out this year at Casey which will include a finals series. IMO he will learn more from that than getting a drubbing in Perth. Lets see what he looks like after another preseason in 2019.

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    2 minutes ago, old dee said:

    He has had a couple against teams like Coburg who are hardly even VFL standard. In recent weeks he has performed a little better but hardly knocking the door down for selection at senior level. He should be allowed to play out this year at Casey which will include a finals series. IMO he will learn more from that than getting a drubbing in Perth. 

    Agree 100%.

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    People are kidding themselves if they think Weid hasn't earned a call up to replace Hogan. His last month at VFL level has been very good.

     

    Round 19 -    2 goals...   couldnt find the official stats for some reason, but the coaches review said Weid was imposing and just missed out on votes.
    Round 18  -   24 disposals, 7 marks, 7 hitouts, 2 goals
    Round 16  -  12 disposals, 4 marks, 7 hitouts, 2 goals
    Round 15  -   17 disposals, 6 marks, 7 hitouts, 4 goals

    Round 17  was a bye.

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    1 minute ago, Petraccattack said:

    People are kidding themselves if they think Weid hasn't earned a call up to replace Hogan. His last month at VFL level has been very good.

     

    Round 19 -    2 goals...   couldnt find the official stats for some reason, but the coaches review said Weid was imposing and just missed out on votes.
    Round 18  -   24 disposals, 7 marks, 7 hitouts, 2 goals
    Round 16  -  12 disposals, 4 marks, 7 hitouts, 2 goals
    Round 15  -   17 disposals, 6 marks, 7 hitouts, 4 goals

    Round 16 was a bye.

    He could have done better during the bye.

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    2 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

    People are kidding themselves if they think Weid hasn't earned a call up to replace Hogan. His last month at VFL level has been very good.

     

    Round 19 -    2 goals...   couldnt find the official stats for some reason, but the coaches review said Weid was imposing and just missed out on votes.
    Round 18  -   24 disposals, 7 marks, 7 hitouts, 2 goals
    Round 16  -  12 disposals, 4 marks, 7 hitouts, 2 goals
    Round 15  -   17 disposals, 6 marks, 7 hitouts, 4 goals

    Round 16 was a bye.

    It's a huge step up and improvement on last year, so he's tracking nicely.

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    29 minutes ago, Stormy Dee said:

    He’s had some very good games at VFL level where he has kicked multiple goals.

    'very good' is a stretch. hes been ok but hasnt been busting the door down. Not even close to the top bracket of VFL forwards, let alone an AFL talent.

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    So Weideman fires and the nay sayers go back to picking on O'mac i suppose.

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    I would keep the weid in the VFL this year. Think we should go with a smaller fwd line including Bugg, Kent or Hannan.

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    52 minutes ago, Stormy Dee said:

    He’s had some very good games at VFL level where he has kicked multiple goals.

    He actually has the highest goal average per game in the VFL.

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    30 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

    He could have done better during the bye.

    Has been told to work on the games he doesn't play in.

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    24 minutes ago, Stormy Dee said:

    Seven goals in one game is not very good?

    it was Coburg !!   you or I might have snagged a few against this lot !!?:);)

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    25 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

    it was Coburg !!   you or I might have snagged a few against this lot !!?:);)

    ...and he kicked 4 in a tight game against the dogs.

    6 against the Hawks last year...so...

    Spent more time in the ruck.

    Played a lot of footy in inclement conditions where you might even struggle to get a kick.

    Look, we're in a time where no one is kicking the big bags of goals. 

    There's no Frosty Miller or Freddie Cook around these days, that time has passed us by.

    It's not the measure of a player now.

    Weid will fill a role and do it better than anyone else we've got at present.

    His time has come.

    Like it or not we need to know if he can step up in a big game and it might as well be now because if he can't then there's no point us being in finals just to make up the numbers. Better to have good intel coming into the trade/draft period.

    Hogan, Lever and Viney leave a big hole in our structure.

    As an aside, remember how Boyd was at the Dogs??? Couldn't catch a cold then suddenly turned it around at the end of 2016.

    You just never know.

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    41 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

    it was Coburg !!   you or I might have snagged a few against this lot !!?:);)

    Me maybe but not you.

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