New MFC facility?

[daisycutter 29,757]

56 minutes ago, old dee said:

I would agree with you dc but the mere fact the MFC is looking at alternatives suggests that the MCG for whatever reasons is not on!

well it is not on in the short term.

no decisions have been made yet re artificial turf but it is a discussion point around the traps

artificial turf will be a game-changer and we should be lobbying hard before some other bastard eats our lunch (again)

[old dee 23,880]

1 minute ago, daisycutter said:

well it is not on in the short term.

no decisions have been made yet re artificial turf but it is a discussion point around the traps

artificial turf will be a game-changer and we should be lobbying hard before some other bastard eats our lunch (again)

There was a story doing the rounds a year or so back that when the Cricket people leave the G there would be plenty of room however that still leaves the training venue problem. Don't know much about artificial turf is it possible inside ten years?

 

[daisycutter 29,757]

16 minutes ago, old dee said:

There was a story doing the rounds a year or so back that when the Cricket people leave the G there would be plenty of room however that still leaves the training venue problem. Don't know much about artificial turf is it possible inside ten years?

 

that's the beauty of the artificial turf - much more usage availability

it's actually being used now for contact sport, and i'm not talking nfl. there are new soft touch ones. i believe the nrl are well advanced in planning.

quite feasible in 5 years time. i'd expect the afl/mcc/mcg would at least have some knowledge of it

[Cassiew 1,903]

Why would it need female and male lockers? The teams play at separate times.

Whats wrong with building a gym at Casey fields (Casey arace gym is sh.t) and just staying at once place. Seems frustrating as Casey and AAMI Park are so far away from each other.

 

[Cassiew 1,903]

On 30/01/2018 at 12:14 AM, Petraccattack said:

LOL

We must be the only club in the AFL that has never had anything resembling a permanent base. 

Fitzroy, my boy.

[What 18,810]

1 hour ago, Cassiew said:

Fitzroy, my boy.

Hey thats cheating. 

[Dr. Gonzo 24,356]

4 hours ago, --coach-- said:

Not sure it’s quite in the boonies old dee. It may be a fair way away from brighton, but from the center of greater Melbourne from a population perspective it’s around 12mins away (chadstone is roughly the center) and super easy to get to.

not saying I would go there but.

Chadstone is the other side of the world for those of us in the north west suburbs 

[Dr. Gonzo 24,356]

On 14/02/2018 at 11:13 AM, beelzebub said:

Had the pleasure of seeing Mr Waters last evening and as such it required wandering around the Goschs precinct. Given the predisposition to build a ped bridge at a hat's drop in this area i see no problems in connecting training to admin etc. ( If this was to happen )

How good was Roger Waters? 74yo and the guy still has it, always puts on a hell of a show too!

I did the same thing, took the opportunity to wander over for a look while waiting for people beforehand. I didn't realise how far back from swan st our training oval at Goschs is, I thought it was directly next door to AAMI Park. 

The little triangle pocket being proposed for the new facilities looks ridiculous as you walk up but once you get there you can easily imagine a multistorey development being quite suitable for our needs

[DemonWheels 1,092]

Wonder if the club has ever seriously considered Albert Park. There are about 7 or 8 footy ovals that go mostly unused throughout the week (other than Junction Oval). And if we’re serious about using such a small piece of land on the edge of Punt Road I’m sure we could make a similar size development work by redeveloping one of the current club houses or car parks to run as it already normally does for the local teams as well as house the MFC and their administration.

[beelzebub 23,383]

18 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

How good was Roger Waters? 74yo and the guy still has it, always puts on a hell of a show too!

I did the same thing, took the opportunity to wander over for a look while waiting for people beforehand. I didn't realise how far back from swan st our training oval at Goschs is, I thought it was directly next door to AAMI Park. 

The little triangle pocket being proposed for the new facilities looks ridiculous as you walk up but once you get there you can easily imagine a multistorey development being quite suitable for our needs

Even at 74 Pink was Floyding magnificently. 

[Cassiew 1,903]

Say what you like about Waverley. Us people from the SE surburbs will defend it to the day we die. It was fantastic having such a large stadium so convienient to us. Dad used to take us a lot because it was within driving distagpce where we lived. It was a great place to watch the game and we loved going on the grounds afterwards for a kick to kick. I still think it was the best ground ever in the AFL after the MCG.

I was so sad when they got rid of Waverley. It was such a great stadium and held so many memories. If the AFL had kept it, they could have threatened to move games there when the MCG cancelled AFL games for soccer. No use threatening to put them in Docklands, as it has a far lower compacity. 

I noticed two main opponents of it were Eddie Maguire and John Elliot. Collingbog and Carlscum men. I think they were a little worried as St Kilda and Hawthorn we’re starting to build on their membership base, particularly with new arrivals, SE suburbs being one of the fastest growing populations in Melbourne.

Having said that, I don’t think it’s really suitable for a training base as Hawthorn are so well entrenched there.

 

[Diamond_Jim 12,629]

14 minutes ago, Cassiew said:

. It was a great place to watch the game a

 

Come now... Waverley was atrocious from a spectators viewpoint. The boundary line was a fair way in from the fence and seeing the other side of the ground let alone the far end was impossible.

Like the Batmobile that graced its turf on the one and only GF played at Waverley the place is best consigned to history at best.

It served its purpose which was to give power to the VFL in its negotiations with the MCC.

[Cassiew 1,903]

2 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Come now... Waverley was atrocious from a spectators viewpoint. The boundary line was a fair way in from the fence and seeing the other side of the ground let alone the far end was impossible.

Like the Batmobile that graced its turf on the one and only GF played at Waverley the place is best consigned to history at best.

It served its purpose which was to give power to the VFL in its negotiations with the MCC.

I went there all the time and never once had that problem. I think people who aren’t from the SE suburbs were just in a stink that we had a major stadium at our doorstep.

 

Edited February 24, 2018 by Cassiew

[Demon Disciple 12,285]

The problem with Waverly Park was that it had very bad public transport access, in particular train access.

The MCG and Etihad are both centrally located and also served well by public transport. Waverly Park was and still is a long way out from the CBD and when you got there it was bloody cold and wasn't the easiest to watch football at. Glad the AFL got rid of it (from a SE occupant).

[daisycutter 29,757]

32 minutes ago, Cassiew said:

 

Having said that, I don’t think it’s really suitable for a training base as Hawthorn are so well entrenched there.

 

you do realise whorethorn are moving to dingley. they have the land already, but will still be a few years off

[Damo 3,389]

I lived in Mt Waverly in the afl park time. It was quicker to get to the mCG whatever method. Undefendable.

[Cassiew 1,903]

26 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

The problem with Waverly Park was that it had very bad public transport access, in particular train access.

The MCG and Etihad are both centrally located and also served well by public transport. Waverly Park was and still is a long way out from the CBD and when you got there it was bloody cold and wasn't the easiest to watch football at. Glad the AFL got rid of it (from a SE occupant).

Aw no too cool? It’s a winter sport. Gee some people complain about anything, you would have hated following football in the 60’s. Monash freeway was easily accessible. Just a weak excuse to get rid of all the suburban grounds.

[Demon Disciple 12,285]

8 minutes ago, Cassiew said:

Aw no too cool? It’s a winter sport. Gee some people complain about anything, you would have hated following football in the 60’s. Monash freeway was easily accessible. Just a weak excuse to get rid of all the suburban grounds.

You are awfully defensive of a ground that is regarded as being a cesspool of a ground to watch football at.

And no, it wasn't cool, it was freezing. The closest that i have ever experienced Waverly-like freezing at the G was the Sunday twilight game against the Crows a few years ago.

Edited February 24, 2018 by Demon Disciple

[Cassiew 1,903]

4 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

You are awfully defensive of a ground that is regarded as being a cesspool of a ground to watch football at.

And no, it wasn't cool, it was freezing. The closest that i have ever experienced Waverly-like freezing at the G was the Sunday twilight game against the Crows a few years ago.

Regarded by who? I went there as a child and I never once complained about the cold. Seems to me a grown man would be able to take it better than a little girl.

It was a fine ground. Never had any complaints the whole time I went there and I was there at the famous bears hail storm games. Massive ground and ten times better than the cesspit that is Docklands.

Edited February 24, 2018 by Cassiew

[Damo 3,389]

The seats had moss growing on them from the cold and rain. After a close game it would take an hour to get out of car park. The centre had a mound so that you could not see the other wing. The stands were shallow and not angled up properly. It was extremely ugly and unfinished for a good reason. It was in a rain band. Indefensible.

[Cassiew 1,903]

I never once saw any moss on any seats I went to. If they did, don’t forget they repainted them in the 90’s. Again, it takes forever to get out to a train, through shoving pushing (on even worse days) groping at Richmond. You had the option of staying st the pubs and having a drink before leaving to wait if you liked. And considering how quickly you got home afterwards.

As much as I go to games now it was never as much as I did at Waverley. Having a ground so close and not have to take trains or go to the city. It was a fantastic ground.

Defensible. 

[Pates 9,661]

6 hours ago, Demon Disciple said:

The problem with Waverly Park was that it had very bad public transport access, in particular train access.

The MCG and Etihad are both centrally located and also served well by public transport. Waverly Park was and still is a long way out from the CBD and when you got there it was bloody cold and wasn't the easiest to watch football at. Glad the AFL got rid of it (from a SE occupant).

From my memories that was the biggest issue with it. The few times we went driving there and back were a nightmare, I also recall the terrible video screen/scoreboard. If you're going to have a large venue like that you need at least one decent screen. 

I think it could've been a good ground with the right infrastructure but it failed on too many levels to be able to attract a decent enough attendance on a regular basis. 

[beelzebub 23,383]

Good old artic park...very 18th century construct...

Funny..we had nore trains in the latter 18th c ?

[Sir Why You Little 37,195]

The Waverly Scoreboards were so bad!!!!

[Demon Disciple 12,285]

57 minutes ago, Pates said:

I think it could've been a good ground with the right infrastructure but it failed on too many levels to be able to attract a decent enough attendance on a regular basis. 

This is where the new Optus Stadium in Perth needs to get it right, i.e trains. Whilst Etihad is serviced by all metropolitan lines and the MCG has 8 with Richmond Station (10 if including the Jolimont line), Optus Stadium is only serviced by the single Armadale/Thornlie line.

They'll need to put on quite a few extra services to and from Perth CBD to handle the foot traffic.