18 hours ago, Wadda We Sing said:

Was never a problem when everything was in black and white!.......you could still tell us apart, even from Fitzroy!.....

Exactly. These clash jumpers are a pathetic joke.

On Wednesday, November 15, 2017 at 12:15 PM, DaveyDee said:

Could not give a toss what colour or clash jumpers are. Its just such a non-issue. 

I care more how we play the game, how many wins we will have and if we are going to make the finals. 

Sorry cannot stand this stupid response.  In what way is caring about the jumper we wear in conflict with us winning games or not?  It's not like it's a mutually exclusive propersition.

I can thint of a lot of things I care less about posted on Demonland  (like Ty Vickory) and this time of year, few more that I care about than seeing our club properly address this issue.  I mean obviously there is the draft, but until it happens, it's like throwing darts at a dart board.  And even then, until those players that are drafted actually produce on the feild, it's more an act of navel gazing for us mere supporters.  And it's not like directing some of the club's management staff to take this issue up with the AFL and get an appropriate outcome is distracting our playing group, coaching or recruiting staff.  Getting a good outcome for our footy club could also help to recruit and retain more members.

Beyond all, when our team wins, I want to see it happen in a jumper that actually looks like our teams, not some crappy half baked version that looks more  like a Sydney jumper than a Melbourne one.  

Every Heart  Beats True for the RED and BLUE

1 hour ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Sorry cannot stand this stupid response.  In what way is caring about the jumper we wear in conflict with us winning games or not?  It's not like it's a mutually exclusive propersition.

I can thint of a lot of things I care less about posted on Demonland  (like Ty Vickory) and this time of year, few more that I care about than seeing our club properly address this issue.  I mean obviously there is the draft, but until it happens, it's like throwing darts at a dart board.  And even then, until those players that are drafted actually produce on the feild, it's more an act of navel gazing for us mere supporters.  And it's not like directing some of the club's management staff to take this issue up with the AFL and get an appropriate outcome is distracting our playing group, coaching or recruiting staff.  Getting a good outcome for our footy club could also help to recruit and retain more members.

Beyond all, when our team wins, I want to see it happen in a jumper that actually looks like our teams, not some crappy half baked version that looks more  like a Sydney jumper than a Melbourne one.  

Every Heart  Beats True for the RED and BLUE

On 15/11/2017 at 12:53 PM, Demonland said:

I don't know why we can't have a predominantly red strip as our clash strip.

AFL told us years ago red is a "dark" colour and we need a jumper with predominantly "light" colour. However Essendons clash jumper is an inverted version of their normal jumper so not sure why ours couldn't be the same. 

22 minutes ago, rpfc said:

I agree with you - its a non-issue for me its a clash jumper. Now I dont think the views shared by Rodney are stupid - if its that important to him, knock yourself out, go for it and Good luck. 

11 hours ago, rpfc said:

Thanks Morgan - us Demons supporters could use all the luck we can get.

3 hours ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Thanks Morgan - us Demons supporters could use all the luck we can get.

How anyone can be apathetic about what jumper and colours your team wears is beyond me.

Players come and go, but the glue that knits generations of fans together is the jumper and colours.

One can try and place themselves above such menial matters in an attempt to seem more enlightened, but you've just taken a position that is at odds with footy, reason, and passion.

Naturally, fans put up with it, as there's little choice, but how anyone couldn't care or could even embrace a clash jumper beggars belief.  I assume such supporters wouldn't give a yelp if the club decided to push for a permanent change to green and aqua.

I find the position disingenuous.

Round 3, 2017

Round 20, 2017

 

When coaches and clubs start jumping up and down that there are jumper clashes and it could cost someone a flag!!! then I will believe it is an issue.

 

Until then it just the typical AFL bullsh!t inconsistency and making it up on the run.

 

The last time I heard clubs grumbling was when the AFL themselves engineered a clash between us and the umpires!

On Wednesday, November 15, 2017 at 8:58 PM, old dee said:

Finally a man after my own heart.

just win I don't care what we are wearing.

Totally Old Dee.

From 2007 to 2017, we lost more games than I care to think of and wore a plethera of putrid white/grey jumpers.  We should consign both acts to the annals of history.

On 11/15/2017 at 12:53 PM, Demonland said:

I don't know why we can't have a predominantly red strip as our clash strip.

Neither do I, but I really don't care. As long as we return to being a successful football club, the type of jumper we wear means little IMO. It doesn't bother the Manchester Uniteds or Liverpools of the sporting world and it shouldn't concern us. That is 21st century sport. Jog on.

Edited November 18, 20177 yr by A F

I'm thinking that AFLHQ are softening on the issue - or at least wishing to be less pedantic and illogical in their application of the rules (I find it hard to believe that an idea akin to our red-back clash of 2017 was never floated before - but rather that it's just now been accepted). However, any attempts at logical discretion on their behalf will no doubt be accompanied by further cries of bias and corruption.

4 hours ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Totally Old Dee.

From 2007 to 2017, we lost more games than I care to think of and wore a plethera of putrid white/grey jumpers.  We should consign both acts to the annals of history.

I might add RG we not only lost them we were trashed in the majority. I went to many that the only thing  up for decision was the size of the loss many many games were well over at quarter time.

I hate that time more than any other in the last 54 years and there have been some poor ones in that time.

Just win bloody  games 

23 hours ago, Mazer Rackham said:

When coaches and clubs start jumping up and down that there are jumper clashes and it could cost someone a flag!!! then I will believe it is an issue.

 

Until then it just the typical AFL bullsh!t inconsistency and making it up on the run.

 

The last time I heard clubs grumbling was when the AFL themselves engineered a clash between us and the umpires!

The clash jumper/ alternative jumper is more of a marketing opportunity - some you will win some you will lose, before the event you will never know after the event depends on the results. Take this years grand final - classic example. Its just such a non-issue. 

15 minutes ago, DaveyDee said:

The clash jumper/ alternative jumper is more of a marketing opportunity - some you will win some you will lose, before the event you will never know after the event depends on the results. Take this years grand final - classic example. Its just such a non-issue. 

this thread is about (predominately) white clash jumpers. the richmond gf clash jumper was just the home jumper in reverse (no white)

most opponents here of the clash jumper have basically 2 issues

1. no white clash jumper

2. no clash jumper in games when there is no real need for one 

23 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

this thread is about (predominately) white clash jumpers. the richmond gf clash jumper was just the home jumper in reverse (no white)

most opponents here of the clash jumper have basically 2 issues

1. no white clash jumper

2. no clash jumper in games when there is no real need for one 

You totally missed the point - before the event some people will find something to complain about ie this years grand final

1&2 are both just opinions. clash jumpers are just marketing events, some you will win some you lose, you can never please all of the people all of the time.

But I'm tipping if we go undefeated in our clash jumper this year - watch sales start to soar irrespective of your opinion irrespective of the colours involved. Its just such a non-issue. 

You focus on the colours of our jumpers - i will focus on the results of our games, then the clash jumper will resolve itself. 

34 minutes ago, DaveyDee said:

You totally missed the point - before the event some people will find something to complain about ie this years grand final

1&2 are both just opinions. clash jumpers are just marketing events, some you will win some you lose, you can never please all of the people all of the time.

But I'm tipping if we go undefeated in our clash jumper this year - watch sales start to soar irrespective of your opinion irrespective of the colours involved. Its just such a non-issue. 

You focus on the colours of our jumpers - i will focus on the results of our games, then the clash jumper will resolve itself. 

The colours of our jumper represent the club, both history and now. 

You don’t care about that. Most of us do

26 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

The colours of our jumper represent the club, both history and now. 

You don’t care about that. Most of us do

Not a problem, I"m glad you and others care. As I said earlier, if its important to you, knock yourself out, good luck.

I think rainbow would be a festive look

 

We don’t clash with anyone however the white makes us clash with St Kilda.

Why do we need an away jumper?

In the old days it was black and white shorts (and those were the days when a mud patch in the centre and in front of goals ensured both teams had black shorts at the end)!

These days there is no such problem (plus we have red socks as well)!

2 hours ago, DaveyDee said:

Not a problem, I"m glad you and others care. As I said earlier, if its important to you, knock yourself out, good luck.

If the clash strip was an actual problem, i might understand the idea. But it only exists for certain clubs...

other times the clash strips make it even harder to distinguish clubs

3 hours ago, DaveyDee said:

Not a problem, I"m glad you and others care. As I said earlier, if its important to you, knock yourself out, good luck.

lol, davey. that's what supporters do. we continually knock ourselves out 

On 17/11/2017 at 7:47 PM, Dr. Gonzo said:

AFL told us years ago red is a "dark" colour and we need a jumper with predominantly "light" colour. However Essendons clash jumper is an inverted version of their normal jumper so not sure why ours couldn't be the same. 

Are you serious?

That would mean the AFL treating MFC and EFC in an even handed manner, like alternating home games and not having one club monopolizing for a decade. 

Black shorts and white shorts are all you need!