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12 hours ago, Stretch Johnson said:

FFS Gawn is not getting traded

We have such a plethora of ruck stocks  - so you trade out your all Australian ruckman - yup makes perfect sense to me ...

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You know what we need?  We need a Tier system.

What I mean by that is when a trade rumour is posted it needs to have a 'Tier' attached to it.

For example, if someone who has a good track record in the media of putting forward good information, then they are given a 'Tier 1' rating so we know that it's pretty legit and worth discussing.  Jay Clark, while some get annoyed with him, is normally pretty spot on with the stuff that he puts forward, so when he posts on Twitter or in the paper then you can be pretty sure it's legit.

On the flip side, if it's a rumour from a click bait site or one of those twitter accounts just fishing for some likes, then it can be given a 'Tier 3' rating so posters know it's pretty much rubbish and not worth our time.  The 3 way trade that included Hogan is a prime example of one of these, or the Twitter account that claimed it had the 'Jake Lever' decision and then, of course, had absolutely nothing.

Posters can also be linked to these as well.  Chook in Perth would be a 'Tier 1' as he has a good track record, GNF might get a 'Tier 2' as he has got a few and missed a few, while Brayshaw Self, who hasn't gotten one right yet, might get a 'Tier 3'.

I've seen other sites use this system and it helps to eliminate some of the stuff that is just silly.  I'm not saying it can't be discussed, but it allows us all to see the rumours for what they are.  At the moment it seems anything can be posted and some people will just gobble it up without even thinking.

Anyway, it's just an idea.  Not sure how it might work here but it's something to consider.

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Personally I like the Chaos nature of it all.  The individual can take or leave it for all and anything they feel it's worth.

To accredit in some neo random fashion a reliance quotient upon any of it is just as foolhardy as not. i.e

as they say caveat emptor.  Who's to say anyone's  ability to ascertain any legitability is any more founded than the information offered ?

Some of the best snippets have in the past arrived upon strange saddles !!

let the games continue. 

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@Wiseblood haha cmon mate. I like your.contributions but not for this thread.

Maybe you need a holiday mate if you're going to get upset by rumors.

Fake or not it's just a rumor or movement hypothetical 

Trade thread needs more.rumors and less people getting upset by said rumors

Ps - there's nothijg wrong with cslling out a rumor as bs... but it's just a rumor ffs we donr need truth police 

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31 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

You know what we need?  We need a Tier system.

What I mean by that is when a trade rumour is posted it needs to have a 'Tier' attached to it.

For example, if someone who has a good track record in the media of putting forward good information, then they are given a 'Tier 1' rating so we know that it's pretty legit and worth discussing.  Jay Clark, while some get annoyed with him, is normally pretty spot on with the stuff that he puts forward, so when he posts on Twitter or in the paper then you can be pretty sure it's legit.

On the flip side, if it's a rumour from a click bait site or one of those twitter accounts just fishing for some likes, then it can be given a 'Tier 3' rating so posters know it's pretty much rubbish and not worth our time.  The 3 way trade that included Hogan is a prime example of one of these, or the Twitter account that claimed it had the 'Jake Lever' decision and then, of course, had absolutely nothing.

Posters can also be linked to these as well.  Chook in Perth would be a 'Tier 1' as he has a good track record, GNF might get a 'Tier 2' as he has got a few and missed a few, while Brayshaw Self, who hasn't gotten one right yet, might get a 'Tier 3'.

I've seen other sites use this system and it helps to eliminate some of the stuff that is just silly.  I'm not saying it can't be discussed, but it allows us all to see the rumours for what they are.  At the moment it seems anything can be posted and some people will just gobble it up without even thinking.

Anyway, it's just an idea.  Not sure how it might work here but it's something to consider.

We need a 'Wisebot' that detects if a demon player has been mentioned with another club, or if another player has been mentioned with the dees, it then scours all news websites and then posts a 'WARNING WARNING' disclaimer for each rumour based on the tier system you've coded for it. This would help ease your post-load and also help eliminate any creative hypothesizing over said rumours. :laugh: We'll clean this place up nice n good.

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10 hours ago, A F said:

 

I know Gawn had an interrupted year, but we proved our game 

I'm not sure that's true. Ruckmen are replaceable. Defensive readers of the play that can fill key positions are a lot harder to find.

I would disagree with this. You take Jacobs out of Adelaide and they are not the same team. Also look at Jolly at the Pies and Mummy at Sydney and even Giants, bith were pivotal to their successes.

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44 minutes ago, Unleash Hell said:

@Wiseblood haha cmon mate. I like your.contributions but not for this thread.

Maybe you need a holiday mate if you're going to get upset by rumors.

Fake or not it's just a rumor or movement hypothetical 

Trade thread needs more.rumors and less people getting upset by said rumors

Ps - there's nothijg wrong with cslling out a rumor as bs... but it's just a rumor ffs we donr need truth police 

I'm not angry by it and I'm surprised you've taken it that way.

I just thought it would help separate the good from the bad in terms of what is likely to be true and what is BS.  If you have time to deal in all of that then go for it, I just put forward a suggestion.  Nothing more.

35 minutes ago, Deeprived Childhood said:

We need a 'Wisebot' that detects if a demon player has been mentioned with another club, or if another player has been mentioned with the dees, it then scours all news websites and then posts a 'WARNING WARNING' disclaimer for each rumour based on the tier system you've coded for it. This would help ease your post-load and also help eliminate any creative hypothesizing over said rumours. :laugh: We'll clean this place up nice n good.

Hilarious.  I'll remember to overlook your posts more often than you change your username in the future.

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1 hour ago, Jibroni said:

I would disagree with this. You take Jacobs out of Adelaide and they are not the same team. Also look at Jolly at the Pies and Mummy at Sydney and even Giants, bith were pivotal to their successes.

When we played Adelaide, Jacobs dominated the hit outs. Got something like 70 hit outs and Gawn didn't play, neither did Lever. We won easily.

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9 minutes ago, rpfc said:

I don't look in this thread for truth - I know people are having a lend of me or the person who is posting. I click on this thread looking for half baked rumours with a smidgen of truth and possibility.

Give. Me. Your. Rumours.

My suggestion wasn't to take anything away from this aspect, just gives you a little more background as to where it has come from and how reputable it is.

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8 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

My suggestion wasn't to take anything away from this aspect, just gives you a little more background as to where it has come from and how reputable it is.

The posters that don't provide that will be judged accordingly. And I wasn't responding to your tiers - I was responding to the lack of rumours up in here.

C'mon people?! Someone go read bigfooty or something...

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1 hour ago, Wiseblood said:

I'm not angry by it and I'm surprised you've taken it that way.

I just thought it would help separate the good from the bad in terms of what is likely to be true and what is BS.  If you have time to deal in all of that then go for it, I just put forward a suggestion.  Nothing more.

Hilarious.  I'll remember to overlook your posts more often than you change your username in the future.

All good mate

Im not mad either.... i just dont think it needs to be pointed out in a rumour thread 

More rumours needed.... 

 

In other threads @Wiseblood i 100% agree. But let's just leave it uncomplicated and just good or bad rumours 

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25 minutes ago, A F said:

When we played Adelaide, Jacobs dominated the hit outs. Got something like 70 hit outs and Gawn didn't play, neither did Lever. We won easily.

Max had a poor season after he came back from injury, but we still won more games with him than without him.

When fit and in form he is the best ruckman in the league, significantly better than Jacobs.

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3 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Max had a poor season after he came back from injury, but we still won more games with him than without him.

When fit and in form he is the best ruckman in the league, significantly better than Jacobs.

Max had a poorer season when he came back .Thats for sure ( well...I agree...lol )   Im not so sure he was having too flash a season prior to tell the truth.

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When Gawn came back from injury his contested marking appeared way down on early season and more-so last years form. Because of the injury it is hard to assess but maybe teams have worked out how to play him. He has a glaring weakness that he is not quick around the ground. Grundy destroyed him in the last game. I think he finished the season (on available form) as a mid tier (using the tier system) ruck.

I'm also open to a trade at top value, but if he stays (and I'm also happy with this outcome) he will need to work extremely hard over summer to improve his aerobic fitness if he is to improve on 2017.

Will he? I think so as he seems to understand he is only famous because he is a good footballer, but the high life is certainly a distraction for him as it probably was with Watts last off-season.

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50 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Max had a poor season after he came back from injury, but we still won more games with him than without him.

When fit and in form he is the best ruckman in the league, significantly better than Jacobs.

The point I was making was Lever's absence was more felt than Gawn's.

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1 minute ago, Demons11 said:

Paul Connors just said Salem won't be traded from Melbourne and that Adelaide asked for Petracca for Lever.  He followed up to say it was shot down straight away and that he loves Melbourne and wouldn't go anywhere. 

No harm in trying I suppose.

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6 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

Paul Connors just said Salem won't be traded from Melbourne and that Adelaide asked for Petracca for Lever.  He followed up to say it was shot down straight away and that he loves Melbourne and wouldn't go anywhere. 

this is getting really silly.........

On a more realistic note it is a great way of shifting the norm ... keep saying you want the moon and the stars and you will at least end up with the moon

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