POST MATCH DISCUSSION - Round 22

[layzie 34,013]

2 minutes ago, bing181 said:

You don't know that. He could just as easily have given away 3 or 4 goals through turnovers.

People have got to stop running this film of "what might have happened" in their heads as if it's reality - and then arguing from that as if it did.

He may have but his closing speed and contest ability would have been useful.

[pineapple dee 2,892]

1 hour ago, Biffen said:

Not happy Bernie.

We effectictively start 1 goal down if he kicks out .

How many times does he have to chip it too the opp.

The umpiring was putrid.

Tom Mac was rank first half.

I'm convinced the umpire are instructed to make games closer by paying stupid weak frees that represent their lame souls and evil manipulative characters.

Worst game in a while

Well done Biff. You have got to the nub of the umpire problem. One error you have made is assuming they have souls. 

[Dee Zephyr 19,269]

8 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

He is a bit over rated by many IMO steve.

Viney for Tyson when fit.

Frost for Wags.

Watts for Stretch.

That will be our best line up for finals if we make it.

Seriously???? We are about to embark on a long awaited finals campaign and you want one of our best ball getters out of the team.

Screw the stats, ugly win and I'll take it, plenty of improvement left and at least the impressive part is how we have responded in the last two weeks when challenged.

Last week Tyson only had 1 turnover in a big game  but not many seemed to notice then.

Todays game was the big worry for mine, more so than next week.

 

Edited August 20, 2017 by Demon77

[Sir Why You Little 37,134]

13 minutes ago, Jibroni said:

We lied down to easily for me. We have them by the throat and decided to let go. Great teams don't do that. If we don't win next week that extra 2-3% could be the difference.

We haven't learnt to smash sides yet. It is all about winning. 

We were smashed by all for so long i am just happy to win

In September % means bugger all

[Guest]

15 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

We failed to slow the game down at that point though SW and should have (about 15 or so to go).  We then tried to with about 5 minutes to go instead with only a slight lead and nearly lost the match as a result.

We still have a bit to learn i reckon re;   when it's time to play fast or slow.

Little bit of a coaching faux pas as well. At that stage we had Jones and Oliver sitting on the bench together. 

[bing181 9,328]

19 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said:

@bing181

Tyson - 27 possessions @ 59% efficiency. 19 of his disposals were handballs and half his possessions uncontested. 3 tackles, 0 score involvements and 0 assists.

Seriously. 

There's nowhere to hide man.

And what did you omit?

14 contested possessions, only just behind Beams and Oliver, and ahead of 41 other players out there today.

Confirmation bias in action.

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

19 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

He is a bit over rated by many IMO steve.

Viney for Tyson when fit.

Frost for Wags.

Watts for Stretch.

That will be our best line up for finals if we make it.

Absolutely.

I'd have Viney in for him too.

Salem for Wagner.

Watts for Stretch.

We need better ball users in our side and Salem and Watts provide that.

[bing181 9,328]

14 minutes ago, layzie said:

He may have but his closing speed and contest ability would have been useful.

You would hope so, but he was poor the last few matches he played, closing speed or not. Apparently played well at Casey, so hopefully he has his mojo back. He's still a heart-in-mouth player with ball in hand though.

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

8 minutes ago, bing181 said:

And what did you omit?

14 contested possessions, only just behind Beams and Oliver, and ahead of 41 other players out there today.

Confirmation bias in action.

What are you talking about? 

I was pointing out his disposal efficiency. That was what you were highlighting earlier today. I provided his uncontested count to back up my point about his ball use. Half of his possessions were uncontested and yet he still only went at 59% efficiency. That's hideous!

There's no confirmation bias. Tyson's 27 possession game was of no significance, it was fluff. I simply highlighted why. 

You've listed the fact that he won 14 contested possessions as though it's some sort of feat? This is the AFL, not the little league. 

Edited August 20, 2017 by stevethemanjordan

[layzie 34,013]

4 minutes ago, bing181 said:

You would hope so, but he was poor the last few matches he played, closing speed or not. Apparently played well at Casey, so hopefully he has his mojo back. He's still a heart-in-mouth player with ball in hand though.

Definitely heart in mouth so probably wouldn't have helped in the usage area and has been very poor in general lately. I just feel that he can bring something a bit different when up and running. 

[Zoiikgarden 134]

19 minutes ago, Stretch Johnson said:

Little bit of a coaching faux pas as well. At that stage we had Jones and Oliver sitting on the bench together. 

Yes, I noticed that.  Strange resting both at the same time! Think the coaches may have got ahead of themselves!

[Dee Zephyr 19,269]

13 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said:

What are you talking about? 

I was pointing out his disposal efficiency. That was what you were highlighting earlier today. I provided his uncontested count to back up my point about his ball use. Half of his possessions were uncontested and yet he still only went at 59% efficiency. That's hideous!

There's no confirmation bias. Tyson's 27 possession game was of no significance, it was fluff. I simply highlighted why. 

You've listed the fact that he won 14 contested possessions as though it's some sort of feat? This is the AFL, not the little league. 

Dusty is going at 62% efficiency for the year and half his disposals are uncontested, Tyson going at 66% for the season.

WGAF right now. 

[Wiseblood 24,637]

15 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said:

What are you talking about? 

I was pointing out his disposal efficiency. That was what you were highlighting earlier today. I provided his uncontested count to back up my point about his ball use. Half of his possessions were uncontested and yet he still only went at 59% efficiency. That's hideous!

There's no confirmation bias. Tyson's 27 possession game was of no significance, it was fluff. I simply highlighted why. 

You've listed the fact that he won 14 contested possessions as though it's some sort of feat? This is the AFL, not the little league. 

What did you like about the game today, Steve?  Anything?  Must be tough constantly looking for the worst in things, even after a win.  You are welcome to enjoy it.

[Demonsone 2,044]

 

Just want know HWF did we lose to Freo & Nth Melb??? 

Edited August 20, 2017 by Hogan2014

[KLV 1,768]

1 hour ago, Win4theAges said:

Have you taken a look at North they are a disgrace play like busted a holes for the last 3 months and suddenly play like there lives depended on it against us, you can put house on it they will tank the house down next week against the Lions and gain the 1st draft pick.

Brisbane had nothing to play for today no expectation but they rise coz were a young talented team they rested players like Hipwood and 2-3 others primed for this game been a common theme this year. 

100% north are tanking. After it became a topic in the media a few weeks ago, they thought they better put in a mammoth effort for their next game, beating us.

since then just back to losing, they are much better than 18th

tanking is a little more nuanced these days.

[Mickey 4,731]

1 minute ago, Hogan2014 said:

 

Just want know HWF did we lose to Freo & Nth Melb??? 

We are Norths bunnies. They know it and get up for it every time. We know it and play like [censored] every time

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

4 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

What did you like about the game today, Steve?  Anything?  Must be tough constantly looking for the worst in things, even after a win.  You are welcome to enjoy it.

Demonland is where I vent..

In between posts I'm dancing the salsa whilst wearing a poncho and a sombrero.

A poncho/sombrero combo. 

It's a jamboree at my house.

Up the dees. (Lift Oscar)

[layzie 34,013]

Haha, dancing the salsa!

[Bitter but optimistic 22,249]

2 hours ago, faultydet said:

It was a chin tap, but Bernie was probably trying to distract from the fact he dropped his knee into the blokes ass after he took the mark.

Quite a dirty buzztard is Bernie.

Saw it the same way faulty but I reckon it was a decent "tap"

And yes .. Bernie is an opportunistic sniper but .... you gotta love the fella.

[Guest]

13 minutes ago, Hogan2014 said:

 

Just want know HWF did we lose to Freo & Nth Melb??? 

Any top 8 side would have a couple of those games.   It's an even competition. 

 

Edited August 20, 2017 by Guest

[Wiseblood 24,637]

Just now, Stretch Johnson said:

Any top 8 side and they would have a couple of those games.   It's an even competition. 

 

I think this is easy for some to forget, Stretch.  While it doesn't excuse our losses this year, others have had some shockers as well.  The Lions rolled Essendon on their home deck, for example.  Even GWS rolled over against Carlton earlier in the year.

It's been such an even competition this year that, if you're not on your game, you can get rolled by anyone.

[chook fowler 19,551]

Must acknowledge the form of Lewis over the past few weeks. Has been a constant, effective presence down back and along with Hibberd has been crucial to the organisation of our backline. He will be a great asset come finals.

[bing181 9,328]

23 minutes ago, Demon77 said:

Dusty is going at 62% efficiency for the year and half his disposals are uncontested, Tyson going at 66% for the season.

WGAF right now. 

And just to add:

- Dusty is currently ranked first in the league for a) clangers and b) turnovers

- Dusty wasn't getting the kind of performance figures he's getting now when he was Tyson's age or with Tyson's no. of matches.

These are coalface players. It gets messy.

[TRIGON 4,790]

Sad drop in the quality of some of people now in the MCC members. If the person(s) who took my black coat from the front row of Q48  (saving our seats whilst out getting my daughter's MFC member's rewards cards) would have the decency to hand it in to lost property that would be great!

Edited August 20, 2017 by TRIGON

[Dee Zephyr 19,269]

5 minutes ago, bing181 said:

And just to add:

- Dusty is currently ranked first in the league for a) clangers and b) turnovers

- Dusty wasn't getting the kind of performance figures he's getting now when he was Tyson's age or with Tyson's no. of matches.

These are coalface players. It gets messy.

Spot on!!!!