I reckon Plapp must grit his teeth a swear when MFC doesn't pick Watts.

10 hours ago, SFebey said:

How many Top 10's has Watts had in his 8 or so years at the club?

Coach doesn't have it in for him FFS! He's just got a very lazy streak, nobody ever has or ever will doubt his talent, just his heart.

2009 - No placing  (0 votes)
2010 - 25^th
2011 - 9^th
2012 - 16^th
2013 - 11^th
2014 - 10^th
2015 - 18^th
2016 - 5^th
2017 - ?

13 hours ago, dieter said:

Lost count of the number of times Watts had led to an advantageous position only be totally IGNORED by the player with the ball.

Another of Jacks faults. He would lead the team in dropping uncontested marks. Maybe that's why his team mates often ignore him.

Such a shame, as he has some wonderful abilities. One of the best kicks I have ever seen. He simply does not enjoy the physical side of the game, and that will never be good enough in a high pressure final.

Can you imagine how he would fare against the manic pressure and physicality of Sydney in a final?

 

Seems like a ripping bloke, and I still think he is mentally resilient, but I worry for his future if he cannot regain his touch of mid year.

 

 

 

 

 

 

7 hours ago, Demons1858 said:

I'm guessing he will get himself back after a stint in VFL but l am worried which jack watts will then turn up for the knock out final/s if we make it. Can't afford no shows.

So agree there is a question make over whether we can trust him to play his role

Good post.

Thats my concern also.

Wouldnt it be bloody wonderful to see him play a great game in a final?

6 hours ago, DavidNeitz9 said:

2009 - No placing  (0 votes)
2010 - 25^th
2011 - 9^th
2012 - 16^th
2013 - 11^th
2014 - 10^th
2015 - 18^th
2016 - 5^th
2017 - ?

Thankyou DN9, interesting, thought he'd be well up there mostly considering his skills. May well be his application that has let him down.

2 hours ago, faultydet said:

Another of Jacks faults. He would lead the team in dropping uncontested marks. Maybe that's why his team mates often ignore him.

Such a shame, as he has some wonderful abilities. One of the best kicks I have ever seen. He simply does not enjoy the physical side of the game, and that will never be good enough in a high pressure final.

Can you imagine how he would fare against the manic pressure and physicality of Sydney in a final?

 

Seems like a ripping bloke, and I still think he is mentally resilient, but I worry for his future if he cannot regain his touch of mid year.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Beachware collection is more his speed I think.

And I agree re Sydney  you have to tough and committed to play  against the tide of red and white jumpers 

8 hours ago, DavidNeitz9 said:

2009 - No placing  (0 votes)
2010 - 25^th
2011 - 9^th
2012 - 16^th
2013 - 11^th
2014 - 10^th
2015 - 18^th
2016 - 5^th
2017 - ?

Very similar to Sylvia in this regard. Sylvia for all his talent only finished 5th in the B&F (twice). Some players just don't get the work rate required to make it as an AFL player. 

8 hours ago, DavidNeitz9 said:

2009 - No placing  (0 votes)
2010 - 25^th
2011 - 9^th
2012 - 16^th
2013 - 11^th
2014 - 10^th
2015 - 18^th
2016 - 5^th
2017 - ?

Lets not forget that he playing in teams with limited competition for votes.

Watts is in our best 18 without any doubt when he commits & competes, as his skills and vision are top class.

Whan he doesn't bring the commitment Goodwin will put him in the two's.

Side benefit of when he plays is the way he combines with Garlett, watch how often he hand passes to Garlett and puts him into open space.

13 minutes ago, GoD's67 said:

Watts is in our best 18 without any doubt when he commits & competes, as his skills and vision are top class.

Whan he doesn't bring the commitment Goodwin will put him in the two's.

Side benefit of when he plays is the way he combines with Garlett, watch how often he hand passes to Garlett and puts him into open space.

Glad somebody noticed.

Jack is probably our leading goal assist, best kick for goal and handy goal kicker himself.

I hope he is back and playing well next week against the Pies.

Hamstring injury has [censored] his kicking. Can't even score from the 50 arc in the several shots I have seen him take since 

he's not offered much in the vfl today - not exactly brilliant conditions for a tall, but it's his lack of tackling, lack of chasing, and lack of defensive pressure that is holding him out of the afl

aaaaaaaaaaaand, he's just been reported for charging - rather than sticking his arms up and going for the contest he elected to jump into the spoil and ironed out the willo player

Edited August 19, 20178 yr by DemonAndrew

27 minutes ago, DemonAndrew said:

aaaaaaaaaaaand, he's just been reported for charging - rather than sticking his arms up and going for the contest he elected to jump into the spoil and ironed out the willo player

More knocked him off his feet than ironed him out.

45 minutes ago, DemonAndrew said:

aaaaaaaaaaaand, he's just been reported for charging - rather than sticking his arms up and going for the contest he elected to jump into the spoil and ironed out the willo player

Hardly ironed him out. 

he hit him, took him to ground in the hit, got reported for his troubles - didn't knock him out, no, but it was a dumb act

2 minutes ago, DemonAndrew said:

he hit him, took him to ground in the hit, got reported for his troubles - didn't knock him out, no, but it was a dumb act

It was that innocuous I wouldn't label it anything.

We could argue that Jacks actions were totally out of character.

A quick read of DL and you would know that Jack NEVER competes in the air.

 

4 minutes ago, loges said:

It was that innocuous I wouldn't label it anything.

agree, no chance he gets suspended for that

1 hour ago, DemonAndrew said:

he's not offered much in the vfl today - not exactly brilliant conditions for a tall, but it's his lack of tackling, lack of chasing, and lack of defensive pressure that is holding him out of the afl

URFOS

1 minute ago, Biffen said:

We could argue that Jacks actions were totally out of character.

A quick read of DL and you would know that Jack NEVER competes in the air.

 

I'd put money on, that he didnt have both arms up trying to mark the ball.

 

The few contests I saw on T.V, he actually wasn't that bad. Centre contests, on hands and knees fighting to get the ball away. Not bad.

Jack had a good game. Speared a few good passes, worked hard leading up from CHF and playing on ball, competed in the air.

The report was a joke. Just a standard aerial contest where two opponents came in at different angles. Was barely even a free kick. 

Should be back against the Pies next week. Will be good to have his kicking skills back!

27 minutes ago, DemonAndrew said:

he hit him, took him to ground in the hit, got reported for his troubles - didn't knock him out, no, but it was a dumb act

Softest report of all time. Campbell Brown was laughing. It should be withdrawn. Light bump by Watts' hip to side of opponent. Very light contact. Watts said as much when interviewed after the game.

9 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

Jack had a good game. Speared a few good passes, worked hard leading up from CHF and playing on ball, competed in the air.

The report was a joke. Just a standard aerial contest where two opponents came in at different angles. Was barely even a free kick. 

Should be back against the Pies next week. Will be good to have his kicking skills back!

Agree.

1 hour ago, DemonAndrew said:

he's not offered much in the vfl today - not exactly brilliant conditions for a tall, but it's his lack of tackling, lack of chasing, and lack of defensive pressure that is holding him out of the afl

What rubbish. 20 disposals and 12 marks 4 of them inside 50 I think) and a few shots on goal. Can't kick it as long it seems due to the hammy though. But played all over the ground and easily the best ball user out there today. 

Also, that report was the softest thing I've ever seen. As he said on the interview at the end of the game "if I get done for that..."