WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - BEN BROWN

[Demonland 74,244]

11 minutes ago, Dees247 said:

Can someone please give a summary

The article is primarily about the Bombers heavily considering Peter Wright from the Suns. 

There are 2 lines about their interest in Brown which do not in any way provide any new information or cause for concern. 

“Essendon is considering North Melbourne key forward Ben Brown, who is also in discussions with the Demons about a fresh start.

”The Demons are the frontrunners to land Brown in exchange for a mid-round pick.” 

[Dees247 140]

2 minutes ago, Demonland said:

The article is primarily about the Bombers heavily considering Peter Wright from the Suns. 

There are 2 lines about their interest in Brown which do not in any way provide any new information or cause for concern. 

“Essendon is considering North Melbourne key forward Ben Brown, who is also in discussions with the Demons about a fresh start.

”The Demons are the frontrunners to land Brown in exchange for a mid-round pick.” 

Thanks mate

[Jaded No More 68,976]

Doubt Brown would go from our circus in North to another one in Essendon. Two sinking ship. 

[adonski 13,201]

21 minutes ago, Demonland said:

The article is primarily about the Bombers heavily considering Peter Wright from the Suns. 

There are 2 lines about their interest in Brown which do not in any way provide any new information or cause for concern. 

“Essendon is considering North Melbourne key forward Ben Brown, who is also in discussions with the Demons about a fresh start.

”The Demons are the frontrunners to land Brown in exchange for a mid-round pick.” 

A mid (first) round pick as opposed to a 2nd rounder?

[Demonland 74,244]

3 minutes ago, adonski said:

A mid (first) round pick as opposed to a 2nd rounder?

Assume it’s second. Probably a typo omission. Mid first is ludicrous and obviously not in our price range pick wise. 

[Demonland 74,244]

Not sure if this was posted yet but SOS reckons the Giants would be in the mix for Brown. 

 

[DemonOX 8,849]

44 minutes ago, McQueen said:

"Essendon now thinking about targeting brown according to jon Ralph"

Also interested in 2m Peter which I think heard on SEN. 

Edited October 27, 2020 by DemonOX

[McQueen 17,867]

49 minutes ago, Dees247 said:

You attract an intelligent crowd, with your comedy. The guy who laughed at your comment can’t even spell his screen name correctly (literally).

It was trying to allude to the common perception that Jon Ralph hardly has anything ground-breaking and it would probably be a nothing article.

I'm glad it gave a few a laugh.

We clearly don't share the same sense of humour but I didn't set out to offend you.

Edited October 27, 2020 by McQueen

[ChaserJ 5,192]

Another case for Ben Brown being a good match for the Dees (apologies if this has been posted elsewhere in the thread):

https://www.statsinsider.com.au/afl/ben-brown-to-melbourne-is-a-devilishly-good-match

[Demonland 74,244]

 

[Wunders 397]

1 hour ago, Demonland said:

 

Doesn't rate Jeremy Cameron then? :P

[Ted Lasso 19,586]

It amazes me that Ben Brown who's stats are as good or better than Jeremy Camerons over a period of time could somehow be an option for pick 23. 

Would love him at the Dees but it does feel like there is something there that isn't common knowledge 

 

[deelusions from afar 1,893]

2 hours ago, Demonland said:

 

It's all about trying to get the bombers the best deal - if anything Brown looks to be a more reliable prospect than Daniher

[ChaserJ 5,192]

11 minutes ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

It amazes me that Ben Brown who's stats are as good or better than Jeremy Camerons over a period of time could somehow be an option for pick 23. 

Would love him at the Dees but it does feel like there is something there that isn't common knowledge 

 

North pushing out the door is just confusing everyone.  They've really shot themselves in the foot with how they've devalued Brown this year.

The view that Brown is limited in how he wins the ball (well documented in this thread) is reasonably wide spread, but the stats don't lie either. It may mean we have to adjust how we play in order to capitalise on those strengths.

[dazzledavey36 56,193]

C'mon Benny! Just announce you're coming to us ffs. Priorities son!

[Fat Tony 5,336]

19 minutes ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

It amazes me that Ben Brown who's stats are as good or better than Jeremy Camerons over a period of time could somehow be an option for pick 23. 

Would love him at the Dees but it does feel like there is something there that isn't common knowledge 

 

I think the view is that players who win the ball in the air, but aren't that good on the ground and/or apply great tackling pressure, can be a liability. Cameron's athleticism and ability on the ground means he can fit in a forward line alongside almost any player. Brown is more of a focal point and needs players around him to win ground balls and apply pressure.

Also Brown's injury and form are a concern.

In saying all this, #23 for Brown would be a great value trade given he is one of the best goal scorers in the AFL.

[Moonshadow 17,678]

4 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

C'mon Benny! Just announce you're coming to us ffs. Priorities son!

Hold your horses, trade week is yet to come, Dazzle!

Edited October 27, 2020 by Moonshadow

[dazzledavey36 56,193]

3 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Hold your horses, trade week is yet to come, Dazzle!

All good moon, just a little gag to pass the time..

In all seriousness though, I am a little excited of having Brown potentially playing for us in 2020. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nek minute, requests a trade to Essendon..

[DemonOX 8,849]

13 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Hold your horses, trade week is yet to come, Dazzle!

If Brown has made up his mind up to come to us is there any reason why he cant nominate us now like other players have?

[AaronDaveyChipsAndGravey 390]

I know our Pick 23 has been widely mooted as the potential or probable pick to be used for the for Brown, just wanted to get peoples thoughts on here if they'd be happy if we gave over next year's first round pick for Brown? 

There's no question that North have lost a lot of their bargaining power given they've publicly told Brown he's not a required player and if all reports are true and that Brown will likely nominate us it also puts more of the onus on them to get it done. A lot of the recent talk is that everyone is in disbelief that North could let him go for anything less than a 1st round given he's kicked 60+ goals 3 out of the last 4 years. 

Obviously we'd all be hoping 23 gets it done, but if another club say Essendon or Collingwood came circling offering a better draft hand and more money for Brown, I think I'd be comfortable letting next year's 1st pick going with maybe some other later picks coming back to ensure we got this guy coming to our club.

[Moonshadow 17,678]

7 minutes ago, DemonOX said:

If Brown has made up his mind up to come to us is there any reason why he cant nominate us now like other players have?

That's absolutely true, DOX, and might happen very soon, but personally I'm very happy with a club that gets things done quietly than foghorns it out clumsily. eg. Collingwood with Adams.

Of course, i'm assuming Brown has chosen MFC

[Dr.D 1,771]

4 minutes ago, AaronDaveyChipsAndGravey said:

I know our Pick 23 has been widely mooted as the potential or probable pick to be used for the for Brown, just wanted to get peoples thoughts on here if they'd be happy if we gave over next year's first round pick for Brown? 

There's no question that North have lost a lot of their bargaining power given they've publicly told Brown he's not a required player and if all reports are true and that Brown will likely nominate us it also puts more of the onus on them to get it done. A lot of the recent talk is that everyone is in disbelief that North could let him go for anything less than a 1st round given he's kicked 60+ goals 3 out of the last 4 years. 

Obviously we'd all be hoping 23 gets it done, but if another club say Essendon or Collingwood came circling offering a better draft hand and more money for Brown, I think I'd be comfortable letting next year's 1st pick going with maybe some other later picks coming back to ensure we got this guy coming to our club.

Personally i wouldn't. I think next year we could slide anywhere from 11th to 15th so a first round pick would be overs. 

But thats because we will surely get more injuries next year than we did this year and Simon running the show again doesn't instill any confidence.

[DemonOX 8,849]

1 minute ago, Dr.D said:

Simon running the show again doesn't instill any confidence.

This is a massive concern for me too next season.

Another stuff up and good bye some quality players AGAIN and back to the drawing board AGAIN.

[Fat Tony 5,336]

8 minutes ago, AaronDaveyChipsAndGravey said:

I know our Pick 23 has been widely mooted as the potential or probable pick to be used for the for Brown, just wanted to get peoples thoughts on here if they'd be happy if we gave over next year's first round pick for Brown? 

There's no question that North have lost a lot of their bargaining power given they've publicly told Brown he's not a required player and if all reports are true and that Brown will likely nominate us it also puts more of the onus on them to get it done. A lot of the recent talk is that everyone is in disbelief that North could let him go for anything less than a 1st round given he's kicked 60+ goals 3 out of the last 4 years. 

Obviously we'd all be hoping 23 gets it done, but if another club say Essendon or Collingwood came circling offering a better draft hand and more money for Brown, I think I'd be comfortable letting next year's 1st pick going with maybe some other later picks coming back to ensure we got this guy coming to our club.

Brown will nominate his club and a deal will be done. Other clubs sniffing around won't really change the negotiation, as no club will want to pay much more than #23 anyway.

Next years first round pick should be on the table, but we would want to get something back in a deal for Brown.

[Moonshadow 17,678]

15 minutes ago, AaronDaveyChipsAndGravey said:

I know our Pick 23 has been widely mooted as the potential or probable pick to be used for the for Brown, just wanted to get peoples thoughts on here if they'd be happy if we gave over next year's first round pick for Brown? 

There's no question that North have lost a lot of their bargaining power given they've publicly told Brown he's not a required player and if all reports are true and that Brown will likely nominate us it also puts more of the onus on them to get it done. A lot of the recent talk is that everyone is in disbelief that North could let him go for anything less than a 1st round given he's kicked 60+ goals 3 out of the last 4 years. 

Obviously we'd all be hoping 23 gets it done, but if another club say Essendon or Collingwood came circling offering a better draft hand and more money for Brown, I think I'd be comfortable letting next year's 1st pick going with maybe some other later picks coming back to ensure we got this guy coming to our club.

What about mfc 2021 first round pick (say, 7-10) for Brown and 2020 pick we traded to North (currently 9, but likely to end up around 15 or 16 with academy, f/s and fa compo picks). We could throw in a 3rd rounder (tmac?) as well to sweeten the deal.

Then trade this pick from North plus something else (Preuss or future selection?) for a pick high enough to land McCrae, if the North pick isn't considered high enough

Edited October 27, 2020 by Moonshadow