9 hours ago, DeeZee said:

Brown could stay at North as per his manager on Sport 927 today.

Ben Brown is willing to listen if North Melbourne gives him a call.

Brown’s manager Adam Ramanauskas said there was still a chance they key forward could line up for the Kangaroos next year.

“If North Melbourne were to make the phone call, everything has to be considered. But at the moment there’s no phone call being made,” he told the Breakfast Club.

Yesterday North Melbourne announced that senior coach Rhyce Shaw had mutually agreed to part ways with the club and there is a possibility whoever takes the reigns wants Brown to stay.

“I’m sure Ben, being the person that he is, would be happy to listen.

negotiating tactic

10 hours ago, DeeZee said:

Brown could stay at North as per his manager on Sport 927 today.

Ben Brown is willing to listen if North Melbourne gives him a call.

Brown’s manager Adam Ramanauskas said there was still a chance they key forward could line up for the Kangaroos next year.

“If North Melbourne were to make the phone call, everything has to be considered. But at the moment there’s no phone call being made,” he told the Breakfast Club.

Yesterday North Melbourne announced that senior coach Rhyce Shaw had mutually agreed to part ways with the club and there is a possibility whoever takes the reigns wants Brown to stay.

“I’m sure Ben, being the person that he is, would be happy to listen.

The people who made the decision to cancel the early contract offer and to oust him from the club are still there.  No way would he stay. 

We absolutely need a Ben Brown type. I would not judge him alone on 2020. If 2 or 3 years ago you said we could get him for pick 23 you absolutely would have.

6 minutes ago, Royal Demon said:

We absolutely need a Ben Brown type. I would not judge him alone on 2020. If 2 or 3 years ago you said we could get him for pick 23 you absolutely would have.

The question for me is why a busted arz team would want to see the back of him - something tells me I am missing something 

Maybe Sideshow is NQR

18 minutes ago, Sydee said:

The question for me is why a busted arz team would want to see the back of him - something tells me I am missing something 

Maybe Sideshow is NQR

That is what a full medical should cover

I suspect the only real sideshow is the North Melb club.

5 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

That is what a full medical should cover

Better call the Richmond Doctor to conduct it.

6 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

That is what a full medical should cover

Like the one Freo did on JH ?

On a serious note who are our main competitors for his signature? Essendon? North?

13 minutes ago, Sydee said:

Like the one Freo did on JH ?

Sorry I don’t know what you mean

I am sure Darren Burgess and Club Doctors can sort out whether Sideshow Bob has a career ahead of him

16 minutes ago, Kelpien said:

Better call the Richmond Doctor to conduct it.

They did their job

27 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Sorry I don’t know what you mean

I am sure Darren Burgess and Club Doctors can sort out whether Sideshow Bob has a career ahead of him

What I mean is that Freo would have done a medical on Jesse Hogan. That process would not have identified other issues that may (or may not) be the reason why they now want to move him on after being so desperate to get him back to Perth

I'm a JH fan and really hope he sorts his life out and can carve a successful career in the AFL but I worry that is not going to happen - and its not because his body is not capable of playing the game or passing a medical test

If Sideshow Bob is physically up to the rigors of the AFL then I still wonder why his current club (who are struggling for survival) would be desperate to see him out the door

Hence my concern Brown is maybe NQR  

57 minutes ago, Sydee said:

Hence my concern Brown is maybe NQR  

This has come up in a number of your posts so I'll give you a view:

The things we know:

• He turned down North's contract offer which they subsequently withdrew due to covid and sal cap reductions.
• North messed Brown around at the time of creating the hubs (some of it not their doing).
• North were insensitive to his wife's miscarriage.
• North are in a bit of a mess
• He has seen a number of his mates and club staff unceremoniously dumped.
• The people who withdrew his offer and (mis) managed the hub are still at North.

North may have initiated the split (and could now be regretting it) but given the above why would he want to stay.

I have seen or heard nothing that supports your idea that he is NQR.  But lets assume he is carrying a lingering injury.   I have full confidence that our medical team has done their due diligence and will get him right if necessary.

Edited October 27, 20204 yr by Lucifer's Hero

56 minutes ago, Sydee said:

What I mean is that Freo would have done a medical on Jesse Hogan. That process would not have identified other issues that may (or may not) be the reason why they now want to move him on after being so desperate to get him back to Perth

I'm a JH fan and really hope he sorts his life out and can carve a successful career in the AFL but I worry that is not going to happen - and its not because his body is not capable of playing the game or passing a medical test

If Sideshow Bob is physically up to the rigors of the AFL then I still wonder why his current club (who are struggling for survival) would be desperate to see him out the door

Hence my concern Brown is maybe NQR  

You ask those questions as well. Football is also above the Shoulders 

The Shockers wanted Jesse back for years, we all knew the problems, Freo chose not to see them. 
Why do you think we would behave the same way?

We already have a broken key forward, so i don’t think we are blinded at all

1 minute ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

This has come up in a number of your posts so I'll give you a view:

The things we know:

• North withdraw their early offer after covid hit and sal cap was to come down.
• North messed Brown around at the time of creating the hubs (some of it not their doing).
• North were insensitive to his wife's miscarriage.
• North are in a bit of a mess
• He has seen a number of his mates and club staff unceremoniously dumped.
• The people who withdrew his offer and (mis) managed the hub are still at North.

North may have initiated the split (and could now be regretting it) but given the above why would he want to stay.

I have seen or heard nothing that suggests your idea that he is NQR.  But lets assume he is carrying a lingering injury.   I have full confidence in our medical team that has done their  medical due diligence and will get him right if necessary.

I agree with all of that, but for completeness note the stories/rumour about why he may be NQR are:

- Knee injury shot (should be able to resolve through medical assessment);

- His wife is a disruptive influence around the club (possibly interpreted from,  related to issues you mentioned); and

- He is very family focussed and not as footy focussed any more (could be partially true, but related to 2020 at North Melbourne, rather than footy in general).

 

Personally I find the issues you listed more likely to be real, but at least here is (an almost complete) list of rumours/issues.

59 minutes ago, Sydee said:

What I mean is that Freo would have done a medical on Jesse Hogan. That process would not have identified other issues that may (or may not) be the reason why they now want to move him on after being so desperate to get him back to Perth

I'm a JH fan and really hope he sorts his life out and can carve a successful career in the AFL but I worry that is not going to happen - and its not because his body is not capable of playing the game or passing a medical test

If Sideshow Bob is physically up to the rigors of the AFL then I still wonder why his current club (who are struggling for survival) would be desperate to see him out the door

Hence my concern Brown is maybe NQR  

I think Hogan is attitude and drive whereas Brown seems to be purely about the knee.

Freo would have known about Hogans temperament but probably thought being around family and friends back in Perth would help him settle down. The opposite appears to be the case.

If Burgess and the medical team have given Brown the all-clear that's good enough for me.

3 minutes ago, deanox said:

I agree with all of that, but for completeness note the stories/rumour about why he may be NQR are:

- Knee injury shot (should be able to resolve through medical assessment);

- His wife is a disruptive influence around the club (possibly interpreted from,  related to issues you mentioned); and

- He is very family focussed and not as footy focussed any more (could be partially true, but related to 2020 at North Melbourne, rather than footy in general).

 

Personally I find the issues you listed more likely to be real, but at least here is (an almost complete) list of rumours/issues.

Thanks.  I tried to stay away from rumours as I felt facts would be more convincing to cover 'Sydees'' concerns.

re the rumours you mention.  Good on him for putting his family first.  If I was his wife and went thru what she did I wouldn't be too happy with the club either.

Edited October 27, 20204 yr by Lucifer's Hero

23 hours ago, Gawndog98 said:

I also agree, I think Trac should play 50/50 midfield forward, I just think we should rotate more players through the midfield. I would have Oliver, Brayshaw, and Harmes as the mainstays, Trac 50/50 mid forward, and then Viney and even Jackson pinch hitting through there. 

These are good suggestions. Tracca is the ideal, dynamic mid-forward and should be given the same liberties of onfield location that D Martin is granted, suiting himself where and when he is forward or returns to the midfield. We must make better use of Brayshaw, Harmes and Oliver's kicking skills, and run into the forward zones. Viney could be a nightmare for opposition sides as a dedicated deep forward utility/forward pressure specialist. With Brown coming into full fwd, I can imagine the work Viney might perform providing clearances of opponents' intentions during leads and gallops to receive. 

 

 

Essendon now thinking about targeting brown according to jon Ralph

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/news/moneyball-column-all-the-latest-afl-trade-draft-free-agency-and-list-news/news-story/2491b5bec2cf18e60311f52aeebebf68

Edited October 27, 20204 yr by Demon Forever

4 minutes ago, Demon Forever said:

Essendon now thinking about targeting brown according to jon Ralph

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/news/moneyball-column-all-the-latest-afl-trade-draft-free-agency-and-list-news/news-story/2491b5bec2cf18e60311f52aeebebf68

Can someone please give a summary

Just now, Dees247 said:

Can someone please give a summary

"Essendon now thinking about targeting brown according to jon Ralph"

Interesting article about Brown from 2018.

- Tore his ACL in his under 18 year
- Jason Taylor when he was at Collingwood met with him and offered him a rookie spot after a year of rehab in Melbourne
- Has a big tank
- Highlights some of the previous concerns about his game

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/why-ben-brown-is-the-afl-s-best-draft-pick-20180427-p4zc0e.html

4 minutes ago, McQueen said:

"Essendon now thinking about targeting brown according to jon Ralph"

Funny guy. Can you elaborate..

8 minutes ago, McQueen said:

"Essendon now thinking about targeting brown according to jon Ralph"

You attract an intelligent crowd, with your comedy. The guy who laughed at your comment can’t even spell his screen name correctly (literally).