Weid outplayed Pedo in the 2's so he comes in.

Pedo's early season form irrevelent

Assuming Jonesy passes his fitness test, then I reckon there are three definite changes and a fourth that will be debated long and hard at selection table.

The two certain ins are Jones and Vince and whilst originally I was  thinking we'd want to retain a quick, pressure forward set-up, the smaller dimensions of Manuka (167mx138m) than the G means that we probably need a big to replace Hoges and Weids form was timely and he now has two games (Box Hill clash was other one) where he has dominated, even if conditions have meant he has been quiet in other VFL matches.

The three outs are pretty clear to me - Hoges injury (Weids), Trenners (Vince) and Hannan (Jones).

In Hannan's case it is just a couple of weeks back in the twos to get his form back.

The fourth change I'm sure will be debated long and hard - Corey Maynard has been progressing nicely, was 23rd last week and one of the best in VFL again on Sunday. But who makes room if we pick him? We already will be bringing Jonesy back into our midfield. 

The only two realistically that I think we will  consider will be JKH (which for me is a no, because is finally showing capacity to play at this level and we need his outside run on Scully) or JW (Now that he is well and truly over hammy, I am sure Goody will be working him harder this week on tackling drills anyway, so that he's switched on from the outset). Not sure how DLers can list ANB - sure he misdirected a couple of handballs, but he is almost a regular now and for good reason - vision, tackle pressure, smarts around goal, courage.

But ultimately I think unless Jonesy or one of the key mids doesn't come up, then Maynard will have to wait another week for a debut - most likely against the Saints at the 'G.

Out: Hoges, Trenners, Hannan. In: Weid, Jones, Vince.

Positional switch - start JW on the ball for first five minutes so he's more involved early and then send him forward and hopefully it forces a match-up with Lids, who JW will enjoy because he plays better against class players.

Clever-coach switch - if it's windy then play T-Mac back into the wind and send him forward when we have it. I couldn't believe it when this didn't happen on the weekend and with Lobb, Patton and Cameron, we face a similar size issue this week that the zone cannot totally overcome.

Why we win: All 22 players firing up, but Gawn in particular exploiting Dawson going the other way.  Note: Dawson had his best-ever game last week, so big Max can't take it easy.

Key match-ups: JKH on Scully, Viney on Shiel with Melky on Kelly.  

 

 

Edited July 31, 20178 yr by Deespicable

1 hour ago, Fat Tony said:

The Canberra forecast is for a windy day and potential rain. I would prefer we go with extra mobility.

Seriously, this season is a joke. We've played the last 4 games in entirely different circumstances each week (most not at all conducive to quality,  football).

Then you watch teams like Essendon play at Etihad in literally the exact same conditions week in, week out. In their last 9 weeks they play Etihad 6 times, the G twice, and have one trip to the Gold Coast (on a 7 day break either side).

2 minutes ago, The heart beats true said:

Then you watch teams like Essendon play at Etihad in literally the exact same conditions week in, week out. In their last 9 weeks they play Etihad 6 times, the G twice, and have one trip to the Gold Coast (on a 7 day break either side).

Thats the reward you get for being a drug cheating club.

I thought on the day JKH was one who looked likely to actually make good position and move the ball forward with purpose. I wouldn't drop him.

ANB and Hannan were worst on by miles, but prior to that game had been playing well. 

In: Jones, Vince

Out: Hogan, Trengove

I haven't read the Casey reports yet but happy to consider the better of Pedersen and Weid if we think we need another tall forward in. ANB or Hannan to go if this is the case.

On 7/30/2017 at 10:48 AM, Clint Bizkit said:

Watts is on thin ice, two very weak efforts since his return.

Watts always takes a few rounds to get going once he comes back into the lineup.  #WattsThings

39 minutes ago, DemonLad5 said:

Weid outplayed Pedo in the 2's so he comes in.

Pedo's early season form irrevelent

No it's not.

I'd still play the Bear ahead of Weid every day of the week at this point.  Weid has played what one good game in a row?  The Bear was reported as our best big man the week before and as being the domaint big man on the ground.

Weid would need to play a different role in the AFL side (as a second tall to Tommy Mac) compared to a main focal point in VFL.  I didn't see Weid's performance on the weekend, but I still don't rate his ability to take the big contested marks, bash crash, tackle or ruck like Pedo Bear.  If we think we need to replace Hogan with another tall, the Pedo's the player I'd be looking to and I think he would rise to the occasion.

I think the form of Weiderman is encouraging, but my view is he still needs another preseason and to bulk up a bit more...if he is selected and plays well, I'm more that happy to be proven wrong.

Edited July 31, 20178 yr by Rodney (Balls) Grinter

52 minutes ago, DemonLad5 said:

Weid outplayed Pedo in the 2's so he comes in.

I'll back Pedersen in against GWS over Weideman.

5 hours ago, chook fowler said:

FMD we're off to bloody Canberra - we seem to be doing a tour of every shitehole venue in Australia. Reckon we should play a couple of polar bears.

FML it has to be some sort of a record for the most amount of states played in an AFL season by my count its 6, we have played in SA,WA,TAS,NT,VIC and ACT gee the AFL might as well have included QLD and NSW on 6 days breaks just too make sure we we're know where near finals.

47 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

I'll back Pedersen in against GWS over Weideman.

Weid with 3 goals, 20 touches and named in the best. Match committee rewards form. 

1 hour ago, The heart beats true said:

Seriously, this season is a joke. We've played the last 4 games in entirely different circumstances each week (most not at all conducive to quality,  football).

Then you watch teams like Essendon play at Etihad in literally the exact same conditions week in, week out. In their last 9 weeks they play Etihad 6 times, the G twice, and have one trip to the Gold Coast (on a 7 day break either side).

Let's hope we play the drug cheats Grand Final day in a blizard.

12 minutes ago, DemonLad5 said:

Weid with 3 goals, 20 touches and named in the best. Match committee rewards form. 

Sam Weideman: Sam had 14 disposals, three inside 50s and two marks.

Corey Maynard: Corey had 30 disposals, including 20 contested possessions, seven clearances and five tackles.

 

Ignore me, wrong week.

Edited July 31, 20178 yr by ManDee

Just now, ManDee said:

Sam Weideman: Sam had 14 disposals, three inside 50s and two marks.

You are probably looking at last weeks game

2 minutes ago, ManDee said:

Sam Weideman: Sam had 14 disposals, three inside 50s and two marks.

"Key-forward Sam Weideman was prominent inside 50, leading well and flying through the air to clunk nine marks. He had clean hands around the ground with 20 disposals and despite some wayward kicking, he finished with three goals in a great performance."

1 minute ago, DemonLad5 said:

You are probably looking at last weeks game

Thanks lad, my error, why would I think that they would highlight last weeks game?

Just now, DemonLad5 said:

"Key-forward Sam Weideman was prominent inside 50, leading well and flying through the air to clunk nine marks. He had clean hands around the ground with 20 disposals and despite some wayward kicking, he finished with three goals in a great performance."

Playing against Coburg, a VFL team with no AFL affiliation.

Again, I'll back in Pedersen ahead of him at AFL level.

1 minute ago, ManDee said:

Thanks lad, my error, why would I think that they would highlight last weeks game?

Stop living in the past, man.

4 minutes ago, McQueen said:

Stop living in the past, man.

Steve, I can remember 1964, so I go back there at times, nice place, VFL Premiers, EH Holdens, I could look at teenage girls and not be slapped. 

Edit:- Those girls are around 70 now!

Edited July 31, 20178 yr by ManDee

Looks like Jeremy Cameron will miss again this week.. Hammy. No Greene no Cameron.

1 minute ago, Demon3 said:

Looks like Jeremy Cameron will miss again this week.. Hammy. No Greene no Cameron.

Didn't Cameron play vs Freo?

Mumford and Greene will be their outs. Every chance they give Shiel a rest with that bung shoulder

Edited July 31, 20178 yr by DemonLad5

Yeah apologies,  he did..  think he missed recently with a hammy though? 

2 minutes ago, DemonLad5 said:

Mumford and Greene will be their outs. Every chance they give Shiel a rest with that bung shoulder

 

Jeremy Cameron out for 3 weeks.   No Cameron, no Greene, no Mummy...  no excuses for Melbourne.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-07-31/giant-blow-star-forward-jeremy-cameron-to-miss-three

Edited July 31, 20178 yr by Petraccattack

8 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

 

Jeremy Cameron out for 3 weeks.   No Cameron, no Greene, no Mummy...  no excuses for Melbourne.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-07-31/giant-blow-star-forward-jeremy-cameron-to-miss-three

No Cameron is huge.

That does help, need just Kelly to get Gastro