Post Match Discussion - Round 17

[Beetle 4,539]

10 hours ago, jnrmac said:

Bernie and Lewis have dropped way off the pace

Vince is cooked but I disagree about Lewis (tonight)...I've been one of his biggest critics but thought he was good tonight.

Edited July 15, 2017 by Beetle

[praha 11,124]

So one of that Crows-Port-GWS-Saints quad is down and we're 0-1. Need to finish that group 2-2 to play finals. Simple as that. We probably match up better against the latter 2. Port looms as another tough match up. Could be out of the 8 by the end of next round. The AFL has truly screwed us with fixturing this year.

[Jaded No More 67,771]

29 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Just outclassed.  Had our share of the ball, but used it poorly, fumbled, couldn't seem to mark the ball, bombs forward to nobody.  Had quite a few swings of momentum our way but could never peg back the margin enough to be competitive.  Gave away a few junk time goals at the end which was a shame.

A few junior players stood up - JKH, ANB and Oliver all very good.  Hogan in the second half looked like he was starting to get going, which was pleasing.  Looked awful in the first half.

Hunt kicked a belter of a goal after the siren at 3/4 time.  If nothing else, watch that.

Thanks. 

My dad said the Hunt goal was the only highlight too. I got excited as I watched us peg back the margin. A shame that we ended up losing by a big margin in the end. 

How bad is Kents injury?

[Moonshadow 17,554]

22 minutes ago, Diamond said:

He kicked into the man on the mark. As usual.

So did many others tonight.

Given how little senior footy JKH has played of late I thought he did quite well and holds his place next week

Edited July 15, 2017 by Moonshadow

[Deemented Are Go! 3,676]

We were monstered by their talls whilst ours struggled, missing inside grunt, finesse, blah, blah.

Positives: 

- we fought back; albeit disappointing we conceded so many late goals.

- hogan worked his way into the game to get some confidence up going forward. 

- JKH was finally played in the right position and did quite well.

- Gawn did a few good things in the 2nd half (see Hogan)

- Jeffy saw a lot of the ball and applied reasonable pressure.

- ANB continues good form.

- Milkshake presenting as another scoring option.

- Kents tackle on Sloane.

- Hunt's 3q time 65 metre ROOOOST

 

Negatives: 

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[Jaded No More 67,771]

Why are people going on about Darwin? This is our first interstate loss of the year. We've lost more games at the G than away. 

Adelaide are not on top of the ladder for nothing. 

[layzie 32,938]

Adios to Darwin. Would rather play two in the Alice 

[P-man 13,366]

Our tackling game has been pretty good all season but it was well off tonight which combined with the fumbling was one of the big differences between the two sides. The Crows were much cleaner in the conditions and stuck their tackles at important times. The apparent inability to tackle Walker was especially frustrating. 

The amount of space they were allowed in their forwardline was a concern and their speed of transition played a big part. We got smashed on the rebound often through the corridor. Again this was uncharacteristic so hopefully it was just an off night in that regard and will be helped with the return of some top liners.

Forward entries were particularly poor although at times there didn't seem to be anyone to kick to anyway. JKH and Melksham had decent games but were two of the man offenders along with Pedo.

Frost played his worst game of the year by far and his individual errors were costly. Seemed like he was playing outside of his limitations.

Nibbler is really going from strength to strength. He's cementing his spot now.

Oscar still has some development to go but he's looking more assured.

Hunt goal was a season highlight and probably the best individual effort of the night.

All in all some negatives that haven't been part of a pattern this season, and some of the players to come back will be very welcome returns.

As for the "home" support. What a joke. Vastly outnumbered yet again. It would want to make a lot financial sense because it's a failure on pretty much every other front.

 

 

[Hellaintabadplacetobe 4,285]

5 minutes ago, Bates Mate said:

I don't think I have ever seen more in a game we must have had our kicks smothered at least 15 times tonight

Agree,  I can't remember more smothers  in 1 game and some if them were at crucial moments where we had open space in front if us!

We gutsed it out. If not for our terrible delivery into our haphazard forwardline the game would have been considerably closer .

Well done JKH,  you've earnt at least another game or 2!

[Moonshadow 17,554]

Those repetitive long bombs in hope inside 50 were disappointing, especially when Goody has talked about lowering the eyes and delivering unselfish entries to advantage (radio interview before swans game). Many of those long bombs were not even under any pressure.

[Chook 14,998]

21 minutes ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Do you have us beating Port next week to get that result Chook?

I'm still hoping we can make finals, but we really need some of those A graders back fast.

No. I have us beating Brisbane, North Melbourne, and Collingwood. Pessimistic perhaps, but more likely realistic based on our performances recently. And as we all know, beating North Melbourne may even be a bridge too far for us.

Edited July 15, 2017 by Chook

[Nasher 33,607]

2 minutes ago, Jaded said:

Thanks. 

My dad said the Hunt goal was the only highlight too. I got excited as I watched us peg back the margin. A shame that we ended up losing by a big margin in the end. 

How bad is Kents injury?

As someone with dodgy shoulders, it looked like it hurt like f***. Felt for him, he was in agony. They showed him in the rooms watching in a chair on his own (can apparently see the ground from the rooms) and he looked gutted. Can't see him playing again this year, but that's just completely uneducated guesswork from me.

To be honest though he'd done precisely zero to that point other than miss an easy goal, so I doubt he'd have been in the team next week regardless.

[Beetle 4,539]

3 minutes ago, Jaded said:

Why are people going on about Darwin? This is our first interstate loss of the year. We've lost more games at the G than away. 

Adelaide are not on top of the ladder for nothing. 

It had nothing to do with Darwin, we would have still lost at the G against this Adelaide side.

People seem to still forget we are in recovery mode re finances.

[deanox 9,665]

3 minutes ago, Jaded said:

Why are people going on about Darwin? This is our first interstate loss of the year. We've lost more games at the G than away. 

Adelaide are not on top of the ladder for nothing. 

 

QFT

[Beetle 4,539]

4 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Those repetitive long bombs in hope inside 50 were disappointing, especially when Goody has talked about lowering the eyes and delivering unselfish entries to advantage (radio interview before swans game). Many of those long bombs were not even under any pressure.

You will never win a game of football relying on a backwards running Garlett and Melksham, going into your forward line. It's just wishful thinking. 

We had zero forward line presence tonight.

Edited July 15, 2017 by Beetle

[Demon4Life 601]

I liked Kent's run and intensity tonight and thought it was his best game this year

[layzie 32,938]

Why I'm going on about Darwin has little to do with the result. They are a better team, but that heat was absolutely not for footy. The sweat was so bad that the ball being a bar of soap to us was an understatement not to mention our guys are going to lose 5 kg and this WILL have an impact on our conditioning next week. We had zero support and were completely outnumbered in the crowd. Hey if you want to keep the Darwin game and have some good arguments for it be my guest but currently I see no benefit of it to us whatsoever.

[bringbackthebiff 649]

Up until recently, what I have enjoyed the most this year is every time the umpire blows the whistle, it's a demon getting up last under the pack. We are lacking the midfield grunt - get them back quickly!!

[DemonOX 8,701]

2 minutes ago, Demon4Life said:

I liked Kent's run and intensity tonight and thought it was his best game this year

We must have watched a diff game. 

The only good thing I saw him do was that tackle in Sloane. 

If he wasn't injured I would have dropped him next week. 

[deanox 9,665]

2 minutes ago, Demon4Life said:

I liked Kent's run and intensity tonight and thought it was his best game this year

You're kidding? He had one good run then fluffed the inside 50 and he got on the end of a cheap one...what else did he do?

[Demon4Life 601]

Several tackles. Plus he has done very little previously this year so it was easy to top

[deanox 9,665]

A lot of wrist slashing given our injury depleted team lost to that clear top team in the competition, hashing beaten them when we were were full strength earlier this year. 

 

Hell, 24 months ago we would be happy this wasn't 90 points.  We'd have been happy to be competitive. 

[layzie 32,938]

Just now, deanox said:

A lot of wrist slashing given our injury depleted team lost to that clear top team in the competition, hashing beaten them when we were were full strength earlier this year. 

 

Hell, 24 months ago we would be happy this wasn't 90 points.  We'd have been happy to be competitive. 

Yep, this is true. Perspective is a good thing.

[Hellaintabadplacetobe 4,285]

 

On a dirty night,  one thing that really impresses me is winning centre clearances 16-12, and inside 50s without 3 of our best midfielders.

[deanox 9,665]

2 minutes ago, Demon4Life said:

Several tackles. Plus he has done very little previously this year so it was easy to top

i know he was injured but you need more than 3 tackles to cover getting only 5 disposals...