If you listen/read what commentators/Geelong coach/Geelong players/supporters who actually understand the game are saying, the forward pressure from the Dees was immense, who did that   the forwards   so let's drop them  pfffttt

Edited April 9, 20178 yr by Satyriconhome

3 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

You do realise that OMac and Frost are same weight, I asked, maybe you mean slightly more mature? or maybe you have no idea

I don't care what the record says.  Frost would have Oscar for breakfast in strength.

Most astute footy observers would draw that conclusion comfortably regardless of the other pros and cons of each player.

2 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Have you got any changes of your own to contribute, or are you sticking with your usual fare of critcising others?  At least he put his opinion forward without feeling the need to sink the boots into someone else by saying they have 'no idea'.

My opinion Omac stays in, alright some of the changes put forward border on farcical 

3 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

If you listen/read what commentators/Geelong coach/Geelong players/supporters who actually understand the game are saying, the forward pressure from the Dees was immense, who did that   the forwards   so let's drop them  pfffttt

You seriously have no idea.

3 minutes ago, Stretch Johnson said:

I don't care what the record says.  Frost would have Oscar for breakfast in strength.

Most astute footy observers would draw that conclusion comfortably regardless of the other pros and cons of each player.

How do you know? Attend each weights session, or is Frost in for Omac this weeks bleat, Omac did his job again

2 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

You seriously have no idea.

Of what?  I watched the game, albeit not looking for mistakes, if the young forward line had kicked straight we may have won, the rest of their role they carried out

2 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

If you listen/read what commentators/Geelong coach/Geelong players/supporters who actually understand the game are saying, the forward pressure from the Dees was immense, who did that   the forwards   so let's drop them  pfffttt

Forward pressure was good, but you can't select a side based on that.  Weideman, for example, had just 4 touches and 1 mark for the entire game.  That's just not good enough.  I can forgive Tim Smith for being quiet, and the same goes for Hannan to a lesser extent, but we can't have a tall forward in the side who can't impact the game in the way that he should.

Goodwin may not drop any of them, but there are valid reasons to suggest that he should.

I know someone who lost their big toe nail & I can tell you they were in some pain & had issues with it for months, couldn't wear a shoe for a couple of weeks. Obviously Vince is a professional & will be fine but would not be suprised if he misses this week

The key to Freo is Sandilands.

We have to counter or nullify him. 

We do, we will.

1 minute ago, JV7 said:

I know someone who lost their big toe nail & I can tell you they were in some pain & had issues with it for months, couldn't wear a shoe for a couple of weeks. Obviously Vince is a professional & will be fine but would not be suprised if he misses this week

May have been better to keep this injury quiet. Can see the opposition doing their best to "unintentionally" step on his toe.

Perhaps he can do a De Jong and "tape" the other toe

1 hour ago, GawnWithTheWind said:

Vince lost his toenail in the first half, and played out the game. Apparently had a minor surgery on it after the game and MFC are hopeful he will be fine for the freo game.

Vince is tough. He knows we need him at the moment, so I back him to play through the pain if it's not 100%.

Great information, thanks.

5 minutes ago, JV7 said:

I know someone who lost their big toe nail & I can tell you they were in some pain & had issues with it for months, couldn't wear a shoe for a couple of weeks. Obviously Vince is a professional & will be fine but would not be suprised if he misses this week

yep, lots of metho on that toe all week, lol, ouch

After watching Freo closely last night i can say that this will be a danger game. Their midfield and outside run was far too strong for the doggies to handle. Their outside speed was what stood out in the Hill Bros x2 Crozier Walters and Weller. Sandilands is back to his best and Spencer will have a huge task. Id bring back Bugg and make him run with Stephen Hill or Walters. Has a huge tank and did the job on Sidebottom last year.

If Spencer replacing Gawn wasn't a dead set certainty, it must be given we're going up against Sandilands.

We generated a lot of shots on goal, that is true, but I'm not convinced we can maintain that with a forward line of Weideman, Smith and Hannan. We might just look to do one more week like this and then drop the worse of Weideman/Smith when Hogan returns, but I hope we're taking Fremantle a little more seriously than that. If Pedersen can get to more contests than Weideman and can fly at packs with more strength, I'd switch Weideman for Pedersen.

30 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Forward pressure was good, but you can't select a side based on that.  Weideman, for example, had just 4 touches and 1 mark for the entire game.  That's just not good enough.  I can forgive Tim Smith for being quiet, and the same goes for Hannan to a lesser extent, but we can't have a tall forward in the side who can't impact the game in the way that he should.

Goodwin may not drop any of them, but there are valid reasons to suggest that he should.

Also to add to that, won't do his confidence any good if he starts to struggle more often than not, he's going to be a good player long term but he's still very young 

Some fb dees supporter is claiming Gawn has done major damage and is out for 12 weeks... let's hope he taking the [censored]

2 hours ago, GawnWithTheWind said:

Goodwin is following the system methodology, similar to the dogs. This is where you have 22 roles in the system and you replace an injured/out of form person with someone who can play that role. 

So on that mantra, Spencer will come in for Gawn.

His next decision is to rest hannan and find someone to fill that gap. Maybe it's Brayshaw again, or maybe it's time for Bugg.

Our depth is truly being tested at the moment. 

Great post. Completely agree about the system methodology. 

2 hours ago, Abe said:

How far off is Michael hibberd? 

I think Misson said he was at least a couple of weeks off in the most recent 'Injury Update'. 3-4 weeks from memory.

Just now, GawnWithTheWind said:

Some fb dees supporter is claiming Gawn has done major damage and is out for 12 weeks... let's hope he taking the [censored]

Don't believe anything you read on FB.  It's already been confirmed he'll miss a month.

1 minute ago, Wiseblood said:

Don't believe anything you read on FB.  It's already been confirmed he'll miss a month.

Never know 100% until scans have been done.

Spencer in for Gawn

Maybe Pedersen in for Weid or Hannah?

Frost if fit for Melksham

Just now, GawnWithTheWind said:

Never know 100% until scans have been done.

He'll miss a month.  I'll believe the club, you can believe a 12 year old yanking your chain on FB.

2 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Don't believe anything you read on FB.  It's already been confirmed he'll miss a month.

Bloody hell.

Hogan, Lewis and now Gawn. This is deadly.

 

2 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

He'll miss a month.  I'll believe the club, you can believe a 12 year old yanking your chain on FB.

Don't think it is confirmed, Wise.  The article on mfc website is from last night. 

Max was earlier and said he was waiting on a phone call for scan results.  He jokingly said something like 'I may not take the call if I don't want to hear the news'. 

He didn't sound too confident but it could still go either way as to his time out.

Just now, Lucifer's Hero said:

Don't think it is confirmed, Wise.  The article on mfc website is from last night. 

Max was earlier and said he was waiting on a phone call for scan results.  He jokingly said something like 'I may not take the call if I don't want to hear the news'. 

He didn't sound too confident but it could still go either way as to his time out.

If the club weren't sure then they would say 'we need to wait on the scans' or something like that.  They wouldn't be talking about a timelines if they needed to check it out.  You can tell if it's a strain or a tear without needing a scan.

4 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

If the club weren't sure then they would say 'we need to wait on the scans' or something like that.  They wouldn't be talking about a timelines if they needed to check it out.  You can tell if it's a strain or a tear without needing a scan.

I think the longer the club waits to provide an update, the worse the outlook.

Maxy looked very uncomfortable when he came off, looked worse than the standard strain.