Welcome to Demonland: Jake Lever

[Delusional demon 82 1,197]

If we sign Lever then it's only fair for Steven quartemain to then join Channel 7 so he can comentate the dying minutes next years grand final. 

"Jake Lever you star!!!!! And the longest premiership drought is over ! "

 

[Adam The God 30,730]

15 minutes ago, Deeprived Childhood said:

Lever won't have that much effect if our mids are being towelled up because we haven't landed another mid to relieve the pressure from a 22 game season on our younger mids and near-retirees coming through. Keep another first and use it to bring a non-vfl player into the middle.

Agreed. Gaff or Rockliff should be the other targets. Or at least players of their ilk.

[Judd's Granny 24]

19 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/adelaide-tells-melbourne-it-wants-two-firstround-draft-picks-for-talented-defender-jake-lever/news-story/dbe7542425f46d6e0852f5b44c034fce

From the article: 

"ADELAIDE ... want two first-round draft picks ...if he seeks a trade back to Victoria".

"Some observers, however — and it is safe to say Melbourne will agree — argue that Lever isn’t worth two first-round choices".

"Another option ...would be to give up two first round picks and receive a decent pick back, or to give up a first rounder and then swap picks".

That is pretty much as @Judd's Granny describes. 

The article also says that Coll has dropped out of the race.

If a trade doesn't involve a third club there is a fair chance it will be done early in the trade period which starts on October 9 (if he decides to come to us).

I'm starting to get my hopes up!

 

All I can say is click on this article and look at the time it went live, then look at the time I posted my info.

[Lucifers Hero 40,716]

18 minutes ago, Judd's Granny said:

All I can say is click on this article and look at the time it went live, then look at the time I posted my info.

You misunderstand.  I was giving you credit for being on the money.

[Cards13 9,117]

38 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Suspect this may be the same [censored] who told everyone we were getting Josh Kennedy.

Just enjoy him getting involved, don't take it too seriously. 

[Judd's Granny 24]

2 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

You misunderstand.  I was giving you credit for being on the money.

No sorry, not having a go at you. Just using your post of the article to highlight the fact that I had the scoop 1st. Other Demonlanders have some doubt about me. 

[Cards13 9,117]

1 minute ago, Judd's Granny said:

No sorry, not having a go at you. Just using your post of the article to highlight the fact that I had the scoop 1st. Other Demonlanders have some doubt about me. 

Don't post for the accolades JG, if you've got info safe to post, go bananas but you'll need to have a thick skin. They'll come for you if it doesn't come to fruition.

[What 18,810]

32 minutes ago, Judd's Granny said:

All I can say is click on this article and look at the time it went live, then look at the time I posted my info.

Its true then , you really are Judds grandma. 

[binman 44,824]

2 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

Its true then , you really are Judds grandma. 

Oh i thought it referred to the year judd won the norm smith medal....

[Pennant St Dee 13,452]

49 minutes ago, Delusional demon 82 said:

Now if the pies have dropped out ... which other clubs are we competing with ? 

 

Essendon?

[Dee Zephyr 19,311]

1 hour ago, Judd's Granny said:

Demons working on multi deals. Won't consider 1st + 2nd rounders for Lever.

 

When you say multi deals, do you mean the MFC working to trade with other clubs to solely acquire Lever or are we targeting other players also?

[Judd's Granny 24]

11 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

Don't post for the accolades JG, if you've got info safe to post, go bananas but you'll need to have a thick skin. They'll come for you if it doesn't come to fruition.

Plenty of thick skin here mate. Not after accolades, just validation that my info can be trusted. I receive info everyday but only post once it's confirmed by my most trusted sources

[Wiseblood 24,637]

16 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

Don't post for the accolades JG, if you've got info safe to post, go bananas but you'll need to have a thick skin. They'll come for you if it doesn't come to fruition.

And rightly so.  If you put it out there and it's not true then your credibility is zero.

[deelete my account 1,194]

56 minutes ago, Delusional demon 82 said:

Now if the pies have dropped out ... which other clubs are we competing with ? 

 

Would it be so implausible to suggest that North will enter the race at the last minute and offer a massive deal because nobody has come to them? And they want to troll us one more time?

[Delusional demon 82 1,197]

8 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Essendon?

Knowing Essendon they probably think they could land Lever with next years third rounder.... Can't see them willing to offer a better trade 

[Judd's Granny 24]

9 minutes ago, Demon77 said:

When you say multi deals, do you mean the MFC working to trade with other clubs to solely acquire Lever or are we targeting other players also?

2 other players on radar

[deelete my account 1,194]

2 minutes ago, Judd's Granny said:

2 other players on radar

Translated as: 'afl list manager doing his job'

When you say radar, how far along do you mean? Or is it an apt metaphor and we're only just 'watching' what the players are currently doing?

Edited September 14, 2017 by Deeprived Childhood

[deelete my account 1,194]

1 hour ago, Delusional demon 82 said:

If we sign Lever then it's only fair for Steven quartemain to then join Channel 7 so he can comentate the dying minutes next years grand final. 

"Jake Lever you star!!!!! And the longest premiership drought is over ! "

 

Jake Lever Jake Lever. I see it. But I don't belever!

Edited September 14, 2017 by Deeprived Childhood

[Judd's Granny 24]

3 minutes ago, Deeprived Childhood said:

Translated as: 'afl list manager doing his job'

When you say radar, how far along do you mean? Or is it an apt metaphor and we're only just 'watching' what the players are currently doing?

There are 3 players from other clubs we want, for 2 of them their names are being painted on their lockers as we speak.

[KingDingAling 3,758]

2 hours ago, Judd's Granny said:

Demons want Lever & picks 35, 53

Offering Crows picks 10, 45

No other players involved

 

Crows want 2017 + 2018 1st round picks

Demons won't do deal

Ok, so I assume that is our starting point, and that is their starting point.

Our firm position is that we will not give away two first round selections - and their desire is two first round selections.

If Adelaide want to back themselves in, I think we could do (and I seen this on big footy - but thought it was a good deal for both parties)

Melbourne IN: Lever and Adelaide 2018 first round pick.

Melbourne OUT: 2017 first and second round pick, and 2018 first round pick.

Adelaide IN: Melbourne 2017 first and second round pick, and 2018 first round pick.

Adelaide OUT: Lever and 2018 first round pick.

What are your thoughts on that?

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,525]

2 minutes ago, Judd's Granny said:

There are 3 players from other clubs we want, for 2 of them their names are being painted on their lockers as we speak.

Who are they..?

If we can talk so openly about Lever, why not them..?

[ding 5,126]

2 minutes ago, Judd's Granny said:

There are 3 players from other clubs we want, for 2 of them their names are being painted on their lockers as we speak.

Are we likely to need to trade out some of our better players for picks to allow us to trade for these 3 targets, or is/are some of them FA's that wont need to be traded for?

 

[Delusional demon 82 1,197]

[faultydet 7,623]

8 minutes ago, ding said:

Are we likely to need to trade out some of our better players for picks to allow us to trade for these 3 targets, or is/are some of them FA's that wont need to be traded for?

 

Jesus Ding.

Judds Granny follows a very well worn path of a new poster popping up at seasons end, and giving juicy tidbits that people love to swallow, and being exposed and disappearing 2 months later, never to be seen again.

 

Like the posts for their entertainment value, imagine "wouldn't it be great if it were actually true", but don't ask questions and give the impression that you believe what he is saying.

 

Its fun, but nothing more.

 

edit: and watch for the trade rumours to get even more enticing, and complicated at key "bars open" times, friday night, and weekends.

Edited September 14, 2017 by faultydet

[Lampers 563]

2 hours ago, Judd's Granny said:

Demons want Lever & picks 35, 53

Offering Crows picks 10, 45

No other players involved

 

Crows want 2017 + 2018 1st round picks

Demons won't do deal

Sounds like negotiation 101.

Each side starts from a position favourable to what they believe is ultimately fair, and then start the dance.

Getting a deal over the line can often be more about each side feeling they have had a win during the negotiation, not what outside parties think is fair.

If this info is true, I would expect the ultimate outcome to be Lever and Adelaide's 2017 2nd round (35 or so) or 2018 2nd round pick for perhaps Melbourne's 2018 1st round and 2017 2nd round (25?).

Lots of this will depend on how both Adelaide and Melbourne rate the depth of this year's and next year's drafts as later 2nd round picks are often where the talent drops off. Plus how each team thinks Melbourne and Adelaide will perform in 2018 and therefore where future picks are likely to land. These factors would dictate if the clubs prefer 2017 or 2018 picks.

I believe Melbourne have already shown their trade and draft philosophy. 1st round is for potential elites but they will still use them in a trade for genuine quality, 2nd round picks are better spent on known solid quantities that fill a need as illustrated by the Melksham, Hibberd and Vince deals, and then back yourself to find and develop a gem or two with the later picks so it almost don't matter if that's pick 42, 54 or 60 as you'll likely still get one of the players you wanted.

So I do not expect Melbourne to take 2nd rounders into the draft unless they can't find a trade for a known quantity that fills a need, like an Isaac Smith type. So if they have to burn a 2nd round to get Lever along with a first round I think they will do it as Lever is such a "need" guy. But if so they will look to trade a player out (maybe Kent if lucky because another team like his pace, or I have a gut feel Watts may have his papers stamped by Goodwin and he would definitely get a 2nd round) to get another 2nd round in, and then use that 2nd round to trade for a known quantity need.

It's a bit complicated!