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The MFC PLAYER BIOs (particularly Melksham & Hibberd)

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Who wrote the MFC player bios?

For the likes of Melksham and Hibberd the opening lines draw attention to their involvement in the Essendon supplement scandal.

Understandably it's factual, but these two are here for a fresh start and it just doesn't seem right for our club to post this considering it occurred elsewhere. I've checked and no other club seems to do it and I presume neither player would like their new bios stating it.

Likewise, the opening lines for some others are negative facts (e.g. Kent and Trengove regarding injury).

Shouldn't a player's bio state the type of player they are with reference to their positive traits (on and off the field). Then lead into their achievements or alternatively challenges they've faced (like injury) and how they've been overcome?

Rant over, sorry for my negativity, but I think the first two mentioned should be fixed. :)

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      On 03/02/2017 at 02:57, ignition. said:

    Who wrote the MFC player bios?

    For the likes of Melksham and Hibberd the opening lines draw attention to their involvement in the Essendon supplement scandal.

    Understandably it's factual, but these two are here for a fresh start and it just doesn't seem right for our club to post this considering it occurred elsewhere. I've checked and no other club seems to do it and I presume neither player would like their new bios stating it.

    Likewise, the opening lines for some others are negative facts (e.g. Kent and Trengove regarding injury).

    Shouldn't a player's bio state the type of player they are with reference to their positive traits (on and off the field). Then lead into their achievements or alternatively challenges they've faced (like injury) and how they've been overcome?

    Rant over, sorry for my negativity, but I think the first two mentioned should be fixed. :)

    Not sure who wrote them but email the club your feelings, sure they would love to get some feedback.

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      On 03/02/2017 at 02:57, ignition. said:

    Who wrote the MFC player bios?

    For the likes of Melksham and Hibberd the opening lines draw attention to their involvement in the Essendon supplement scandal.

    Understandably it's factual, but these two are here for a fresh start and it just doesn't seem right for our club to post this considering it occurred elsewhere. I've checked and no other club seems to do it and I presume neither player would like their new bios stating it.

    Likewise, the opening lines for some others are negative facts (e.g. Kent and Trengove regarding injury).

    Shouldn't a player's bio state the type of player they are with reference to their positive traits (on and off the field). Then lead into their achievements or alternatively challenges they've faced (like injury) and how they've been overcome?

    Rant over, sorry for my negativity, but I think the first two mentioned should be fixed. :)

    Not too sure what they can say.  All the bio's are quite matter of fact and low key.  I doubt the club has any hidden agenda.

    Even Jones' bio starts off with his shoulder surgery last season. 

    Macca's preseason reviews gave a good picture of where each player is at and their prospects for 2017.  On the club website if you missed them

      On 03/02/2017 at 03:16, Is Dom Is Good said:

    I was annoyed last year as they didn't seem to update the players photos and also some of the Bio's.

    Pretty slack.

    You mean this on current mfc website: wvpL+A7zbyMnQAAAABJRU5ErkJgggA=

    vs this:   8L+w5YrpfhyrUAAAAASUVORK5CYIIA

    :cool:

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      On 03/02/2017 at 02:57, ignition. said:

    Who wrote the MFC player bios?

    For the likes of Melksham and Hibberd the opening lines draw attention to their involvement in the Essendon supplement scandal.

    Understandably it's factual, but these two are here for a fresh start and it just doesn't seem right for our club to post this considering it occurred elsewhere. I've checked and no other club seems to do it and I presume neither player would like their new bios stating it.

    Likewise, the opening lines for some others are negative facts (e.g. Kent and Trengove regarding injury).

    Shouldn't a player's bio state the type of player they are with reference to their positive traits (on and off the field). Then lead into their achievements or alternatively challenges they've faced (like injury) and how they've been overcome?

    Rant over, sorry for my negativity, but I think the first two mentioned should be fixed. :)

    You would prefer "Alternative Facts"?

     

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    The MFC website is the worst in the league so I'm not suprised.

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      On 03/02/2017 at 04:26, Sir Why You Little said:

    You would prefer "Alternative Facts"?

     

     
     

    YES I would prefer "Alternative Facts" as

    "The ex-Bomber was denied a fresh start after he was one of 34 former and current Essendon players banned from playing in 2016, after being part of the ill-fated 2012 supplements program."

    AND

    "Hibberd was one of the 34 past and present Essendon players who received a season-long ban in 2016 for his involvement in the club’s 2012 supplements program." 

    are irrelevant to the M.F.C.

     

    Such "Alternative Facts" may include their playing styles, strengths, or reasons why the club targetted them.

    What would you prefer?

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      On 03/02/2017 at 04:47, ignition. said:

    YES I would prefer "Alternative Facts" as

    "The ex-Bomber was denied a fresh start after he was one of 34 former and current Essendon players banned from playing in 2016, after being part of the ill-fated 2012 supplements program."

    AND

    "Hibberd was one of the 34 past and present Essendon players who received a season-long ban in 2016 for his involvement in the club’s 2012 supplements program." 

    are irrelevant to the M.F.C.

     

    Such "Alternative Facts" may include their playing styles, strengths, or reasons why the club targetted them.

    What would you prefer?

    They are both convicted Drug Cheats which is a stigma that is not going away. Personally i think they got off lightly, as did our new Senior Coach.

    But if you wish to live in denial you can write whatever you wish

    Contact Kellyanne Conway for some tips...

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      On 03/02/2017 at 04:52, Sir Why You Little said:

    They are both convicted Drug Cheats which is a stigma that is not going away. Personally i think they got off lightly, as did our new Senior Coach.

    But if you wish to live in denial you can write whatever you wish

    Contact Kellyanne Conway for some tips...

     

    I don't know if you're trolling or ignorant.

    I never disputed their bans - the outcome was valid, so stop reading between the lines.

    The bios on the other hand are there to provide information regarding the types and quality of players on its list. 

    If the club is trying to sell itself it shouldn't be writing negative facts or promoting stigmas about its own - simple.

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      On 03/02/2017 at 05:14, ignition. said:

    I don't know if you're trolling or ignorant.

    I never disputed their bans - the outcome was valid, so stop reading between the lines.

    The bios on the other hand are there to provide information regarding the types and quality of players on its list. 

    If the club is trying to sell itself it shouldn't be writing negative facts or promoting stigmas about its own - simple.

    I am quite happy with the Bio's they are actually quite factual

    What has trolling or ignorance got to to do with anything?...are you denying what went on for 4 years...With still no apology from ANYONE.

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    If changing the web entry improves our chances to win games I'm interested

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      On 03/02/2017 at 05:25, Sir Why You Little said:

    I am quite happy with the Bio's they are actually quite factual

    What has trolling or ignorance got to to do with anything?...are you denying what went on for 4 years...With still no apology from ANYONE.

     

    No, I don't deny it. But it is irrelevant to our club.

    Do you think the MFC should be promoting these stigmas? or simply just focus on the footy?

    As for apology I couldn't give a rats ..., as long as we beat them when we face them next time.

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      On 03/02/2017 at 05:35, ignition. said:

    No, I don't deny it. But it is irrelevant to our club.

    Do you think the MFC should be promoting these stigmas? or simply just focus on the footy?

    As for apology I couldn't give a rats ..., as long as we beat them when we face them next time.

    Of course it is relevant to our club Melksham sat out 12 months on our list so we played the season a man down. The Bio's are just stating facts, it has nothing to do with promotion, but that of course is subjective

    I would have given them both Life Bans but you couldn't give a rats

    We sit in different seats.

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      On 03/02/2017 at 05:40, Sir Why You Little said:

    Of course it is relevant to our club Melksham sat out 12 months on our list so we played the season a man down. The Bio's are just stating facts, it has nothing to do with promotion, but that of course is subjective

    I would have given them both Life Bans but you couldn't give a rats

    We sit in different seats.

     

    Do you think the MFC should be promoting these stigmas? or simply just focus on the footy?

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    Even I find this tedious and that's saying something.

    I think it's fairly relevant to say that a player has been out of footy for a year and then there's no point sugarcoating it.

    The bio is used as a way of commenting on the previous year and the plan for 2017. It's not an overall comment on their career.

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      On 03/02/2017 at 05:42, ignition. said:

    Do you think the MFC should be promoting these stigmas? or simply just focus on the footy?

    Doing both..it is all part of a career

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    I can appreciate that a player bio logically follows their previous seasons performances but I agree that the reference to Milky and Hibbo's bans are irrelevant. The club should be take a proactive write-up about them on what they're likely to offer rather than the negative past.

    Its really not that hard.

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      On 03/02/2017 at 04:38, dazzledavey36 said:

    The MFC website is the worst in the league so I'm not suprised.

    I spoke to the MFC website and the coaches, they've put in hard work on the app over the summer, re-built it from the ground up, no need to get stuck into it.  Sick of this mentality on this site, not up for discussion, leave the website alone, it lost 10kgs this pre-season, first pre-season without any bugs since 2009.

     

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    On a serious note, it's not surprising.  The site is good for the interviews and highlight videos after games, but I rarely read the other pieces on there as they are just 'puff' articles.

    Not something to get our knickers in a twist about though.

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    I wouldn't worry. When I open my new MFC app it has got Melksham but no Hibberd, however I can read all about Lyndon Dunn, Terlich and Chris Dawes.

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      On 03/02/2017 at 04:26, Sir Why You Little said:

    You would prefer "Alternative Facts"?

     

    Alternative facts are still facts. It's all about the perspective. Or selctive editing.

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      On 04/02/2017 at 00:33, jnrmac said:

    Alternative facts are still facts. It's all about the perspective. Or selctive editing.

    Yes but i am talking the "Kellyanne Conway style of facts" The one that are completely fabricated then put on the web

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    All that needs to be said of either:

    Recruited from Essendon and making a fresh start after a year away....yadda yadda yadda.

    We all know the rest . They're entitled to a decent bio. History knows all.

    Need to get over it.

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    When these two blokes pull that jumper on i'm in baby. forget the rest. Got a feeling the MFC have gone tame on what they could have put in to possible BIO's on both these blokes, and we are never going to know what they know and what they had to cop from previous liaisons,

     

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