Training - Monday 21st November, 2016

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1 hour ago, binman said:

Why do all players who don a Demon's jumper automatically morph into Cale Morton's physique?

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,396]

31 minutes ago, CBDees said:

Maybe he should retire prior to the draft if that is the case! As it is, he is taking the place of either a potential recruit or a loyal servant such as Grimes who we have delisted (but who still played a valuable role at Casey)!

Any reason as to why Grimes can't become a Casey listed played? 

[beelzebub 23,376]

6 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

anyhoo

How have the lads reacted to Lord Lewis's presence ? 

 

4 minutes ago, Copuchas said:

Got along to training today, obviously warm blustery conditions.  As already noted, no Lumumba.  No Garlett either.  Everyone else appeared to be there and were either in the rehab group or the main group (with some rotating between, depending on the nature of their injuries).  Some random observations:

- Petracca already looks leaner, particularly his upper body

- Hogan and Brayshaw continue to impress (as was noted in previous sessions)

- there is a significant focus on non-preferred foot skills

- the ground was segmented into three sections longitudinally with lines running end to end from about a metre either side of each point post.  Not clear what role this played in the drills I observed

- Lewis is already vocal (eg imploring those in a group that ran 4/5 fast laps to stand up at the completion and not hunch over)

- Melksham trained with the main group, Hibberd with the rehab

- other rehab group participants (not exhaustive) were Stretch, VDB, Viney, TMAC, Pedersen, Oliver, JKH, Trengove (running laps), King

- the skill sessions were mixed - a bit difficult to be fair as conditions were atrocious.  Harms and Neal-Bullen (in particular) have some residual challenges around their disposal

Will revert with more if anything else comes to mind.

 

thats what I wanted to see...

cheers

 

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35 minutes ago, Stretch Johnson said:

Seems to be heading in a certain direction.

Would be surprised if he dons the jumper again. 

I think he's already arrived.

[nutbean 8,838]

19 minutes ago, jayceebee31 said:

Need to get Leadership group to sit him down and lay the law done....( if able to) this disruption unacceptable.H does not seem to accept club position, trying to take things into his own hands..no wonder Bucks could not or want to hold him at Colliwobbles .

Gee whizz - where on earth did all that come from ? quoting the MFC release ( which i haven't seen) - he has lingering issues from concussion - you have taken the leap to unacceptable disruption and haul before the leadership group and law down law and taking things inot his hands and not accepting the club position ! 

 

( I too am skeptical about H playing another game but until I hear otherwise I will accept the official line that he has ongoing concussion issues) 

 

 

Edited November 21, 2016 by nutbean

[whatwhat say what 22,757]

best sense of humour in the afl: 

[beelzebub 23,376]

5 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

I think he's already arrived.

Flinders Street.........

.......all change !!

[Redbeard 497]

8 minutes ago, Copuchas said:

 - there is a significant focus on non-preferred foot skills

 

I'm glad to read that, I've found it astounding the last few seasons seeing young players all over the league kicking a checkside to pass the ball where a left foot kick should have been used.

[nutbean 8,838]

1 minute ago, Redbeard said:

I'm glad to read that, I've found it astounding the last few seasons seeing young players all over the league kicking a checkside to pass the ball where a left foot kick should have been used.

Cuts down options when a player refuses to use his non preferred - I long for days when we argued about which was Robbie Flowers non preferred foot as you seriously could not tell 

[AzzKikA 2,371]

3 minutes ago, DemonAndrew said:

best sense of humour in the afl: 

Yeah he is the model for that T-shirt on the demonshop website.

https://thedemonshop.shopdesq.com/eos-sale/mens-jesse-hogan-tee

Hope he paid for it

 

To those that were there, it was mentioned that there is non preffered focus, is that to say they are using the non preferred in all drills then switching to preferred or just flat out only non?

 

[Redbeard 497]

In regards to H, I played with a fella who got a couple of successive head knocks, had terrible headaches for over a year, wasn't allowed to drive and was never allowed to play again. I could totally understand if H was still feeling the efdects

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9 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Flinders Street.........

.......all change !!

Foot s grey.

[Dees2014 2,377]

6 minutes ago, nutbean said:

Cuts down options when a player refuses to use his non preferred - I long for days when we argued about which was Robbie Flowers non preferred foot as you seriously could not tell 

Can't tell with Brayshaw either - superb kick with either foot.

[Willmoy1947 4,088]

2 minutes ago, Dees2014 said:

Can't tell with Brayshaw either - superb kick with either foot.

You could tell with him from Game One, to where he ran etc, not afraid to go either way to evade and kick.

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

29 minutes ago, Redbeard said:

In regards to H, I played with a fella who got a couple of successive head knocks, had terrible headaches for over a year, wasn't allowed to drive and was never allowed to play again. I could totally understand if H was still feeling the efdects

The nuffies won't listen.

A wise man once said: "When you live in a cookie-cutter world, being different is a sin".

(That was actually Hanson, the band). 

 

[old dee 23,791]

6 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said:

The nuffies won't listen.

A wise man once said: "When you live in a cookie-cutter world, being different is a sin".

(That was actually Hanson, the band). 

 

Not sure there are many saying he does not have a problem steve.

This is the AFL world where winning is everything.

If he has a real problem then sadly he should be off the list and looked after as an x player who needs medical help into the future.

Simply leaving him on the list serves no one well.

[McQueen 17,864]

6 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said:

The nuffies won't listen.

A wise man once said: "When you live in a cookie-cutter world, being different is a sin".

(That was actually Hanson, the band). 

 

So does this mean the clubs, or the AFL's concussion testing procedure is still lacking?

If Lumumba is still looking for answers for symptoms he's still experiencing then I'm really surprised by that - the fact they've passed all tests thus far.

[rjay 24,928]

4 hours ago, stevethemanjordan said:

Usually try to get to one training session a year and today is the day.

Report back later.

 

9 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said:

The nuffies won't listen.

A wise man once said: "When you live in a cookie-cutter world, being different is a sin".

(That was actually Hanson, the band). 

 

Nice training report 'steve'...

[old dee 23,791]

7 minutes ago, McQueen said:

So does this mean the clubs, or the AFL's concussion testing procedure is still lacking?

If Lumumba is still looking for answers for symptoms he's still experiencing then I'm really surprised by that - the fact they've passed all tests thus far.

It thickens the plot steve!

[Moonshadow 17,676]

1 hour ago, jayceebee31 said:

Need to get Leadership group to sit him down and lay the law done....( if able to) this disruption unacceptable.H does not seem to accept club position, trying to take things into his own hands..no wonder Bucks could not or want to hold him at Colliwobbles .

Really? 

Josh Mahoney today:

"We have been very diligent with our concussion management and we are supportive of Heritier gathering this information."

...the Demons say a delayed start to training is of no concern.

Sure I'm concerned that H may retire soon or may not play for the club again or that we could possibly fill that spot with a DFA, yadda yadda....

But I'd be more concerned if we played him and and he did even more damage. Both the player and the club must feel satisfied with the medical outcome. The club is supportive, which is the key word IMO.

Thanks to those on the ground for more great training reports. Love the lace out comment by Lewis.

Edited November 21, 2016 by Moonshadow

[old dee 23,791]

4 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Really? 

Josh Mahoney today:

"We have been very diligent with our concussion management and we are supportive of Heritier gathering this information."

...the Demons say a delayed start to training is of no concern.

Sure I'm concerned that H may retire soon or may not play for the club again or that we could possibly fill that spot with a DFA, yadda yadda....

But I'd be more concerned if we played him and and he did even more damage. Both the player and the club must feel satisfied with the medical outcome. The club is supportive, which is the key word IMO.

Thanks to those on the ground for more great training reports. Love the lace out comment by Lewis.

That line reads in normal speak as " we have to say this so we don't get sued for not taking care of him" .

And when was the last time we believed any FD when they are trying to find a way out.

When Clark was going through his process all we heard was he will be back when over his injuries.

Then a pay out is announced.

Am I a cynic?

Yes

[Courtney_Fish 183]

1 hour ago, old dee said:

He clearly is over AFL football dc.

Work out a deal for him to go now before the trade period.

That is the best option IMO.

He leaves we then have another draft spot, anyone at this point is going to be more useful than I guy who clearly does not want to play.

No, it's not clear at all; it's the opposite. It's more likely he is hanging in there because he wants to play but someone is being responsible.

[old dee 23,791]

Just now, Courtney_Fish said:

No, it's not clear at all; it's the opposite. It's more likely he is hanging in there because he wants to play but someone is being responsible.

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck chances are ..............

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1 minute ago, old dee said:

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck chances are ..............

So what's that say about you?

[old dee 23,791]

Just now, Courtney_Fish said:

So what's that say about you?

Exactly.

That is my point