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Hawks interesting. The suggestion is that they might go for Jarman as a father son pick but their "picks are worth no bidding points right now (until the draft order changes on the night when clubs start to pass), but they can still match a bid by going into deficit next year."

How does that work!

No idea, but watch the AFL again make it up on the fly.

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Hawks interesting. The suggestion is that they might go for Jarman as a father son pick but their "picks are worth no bidding points right now (until the draft order changes on the night when clubs start to pass), but they can still match a bid by going into deficit next year."

How does that work!

They have pick 88. The lowest pick with any points attached is pick 73.

GWS have a stash of picks in the 50's and 60's for spare academy points. As they get used up or passed on, combined with other clubs such as Melbourne at pick 84 passing, the Hawks pick will come in from it's current spot at 88 towards the 70's and maybe enough to be worth some points.

Matching a bid by going in to deficit is where you allow your future round pick to be pushed back in the draft in the corresponding round to which you'd like to match a bid on. If someone was to bid pick 50 on Jarman this year and the Hawks didn't have a pick with any points they can say take those points away from our 3rd round pick next year to match with.

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They have pick 88. The lowest pick with any points attached is pick 73.

GWS have a stash of picks in the 50's and 60's for spare academy points. As they get used up or passed on, combined with other clubs such as Melbourne at pick 84 passing, the Hawks pick will come in from it's current spot at 88 towards the 70's and maybe enough to be worth some points.

Matching a bid by going in to deficit is where you allow your future round pick to be pushed back in the draft in the corresponding round to which you'd like to match a bid on. If someone was to bid pick 50 on Jarman this year and the Hawks didn't have a pick with any points they can say take those points away from our 3rd round pick next year to match with.

I think to be a recruiting manager these days you need to have an eye for football talent plus a PhD in mathematics.

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I think to be a recruiting manager these days you need to have an eye for football talent plus a PhD in mathematics.

The maths is the easy part. The hard bit is winning 3 flags on the trot and becoming the top destination club in the comp.

(no disrespect to anyone with a PhD in maths :ph34r:)

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On 23/10/2016 at 2:08 AM, DeeSpencer said:

They have pick 88. The lowest pick with any points attached is pick 73.

GWS have a stash of picks in the 50's and 60's for spare academy points. As they get used up or passed on, combined with other clubs such as Melbourne at pick 84 passing, the Hawks pick will come in from it's current spot at 88 towards the 70's and maybe enough to be worth some points.

Matching a bid by going in to deficit is where you allow your future round pick to be pushed back in the draft in the corresponding round to which you'd like to match a bid on. If someone was to bid pick 50 on Jarman this year and the Hawks didn't have a pick with any points they can say take those points away from our 3rd round pick next year to match with.

Hopefully we bid on Jarman with our first pick and the packet of twisties we gave them for Lewis isn't enough to match it.

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5 hours ago, Wrecker45 said:

Hopefully we bid on Jarman with our first pick and the packet of twisties we gave them for Lewis isn't enough to match it.

Pick 47 minus a 25% or whatever discount probably comes out so cheaply that the Hawks could match it or go in to draft debt next year to match it. 

Given the AFL let both Geel and Hawthorn bend the future pick trading rules I'm sure they will do the same with a father son bid. 

The Jarman kid does look an interesting prospect. I get the feeling both clubs are trying to keep a lid on him. Would only be fair if Melbourne got the draft him just like we did his father.

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15 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

Pick 47 minus a 25% or whatever discount probably comes out so cheaply that the Hawks could match it or go in to draft debt next year to match it. 

Given the AFL let both Geel and Hawthorn bend the future pick trading rules I'm sure they will do the same with a father son bid. 

The Jarman kid does look an interesting prospect. I get the feeling both clubs are trying to keep a lid on him. Would only be fair if Melbourne got the draft him just like we did his father.

And following tradition, he'd probably refuse to come to play with us.

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17 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

And following tradition, he'd probably refuse to come to play with us.

Only now you have to sit out 2 years unlike his father that sat out 1 year.

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40 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Only now you have to sit out 2 years unlike his father that sat out 1 year.

Darren "sat out" 3 years with the Demons and 1 year with the Bears and was traded to the Hawks for pick 10 when the Crows came into the league. He was tied to the Bears, so couldn't go automatically to the Crows and he understood that the SANFL standard was going to drop once the Crows took out the best players.

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8 minutes ago, ickey_11 said:

Darren "sat out" 3 years with the Demons and 1 year with the Bears and was traded to the Hawks for pick 10 when the Crows came into the league. He was tied to the Bears, so couldn't go automatically to the Crows and he understood that the SANFL standard was going to drop once the Crows took out the best players.

OK cheers.

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