4 minutes ago, billy2803 said:

How?  Hibberd is worth a 2nd rounder, which we used, then upgraded our pick 68 by 11 spots.

Think it was a fair deal all round to be honest.

Sorry to nit pick 9 spots.

2 minutes ago, Axis of Bob said:

Our first rounder for this year is Weideman. You can't look at this draft in isolation.

effectively we've bought in 

Lewis, Hibberd, Weideman and some later picks which i think is a great result for a team on the edge of finals

1 minute ago, stuie said:

Because I think those two guys will be better than players we draft with those picks.

 

That's entirely possible, but we don't need to upgrade them this year, so leave them where they are.

Just now, billy2803 said:

That's entirely possible, but we don't need to upgrade them this year, so leave them where they are.

But as Jaded pointed out, we'll have better picks next year, would rather use them to draft players.

 

1 minute ago, Abe said:

effectively we've bought in 

Lewis, Hibberd, Weideman and some later picks which i think is a great result for a team on the edge of finals

For a first and a second round pick.

5 minutes ago, Is Dom Is Good said:

As much as I would've liked to use next year's second, we have brought in that many kids over the last 3-4 years so not too concerned about having a year without a lot of draft picks.

We may also still trade next year's 2nd with another pick to try and get back into the 2nd round this year, who knows!

This. We got two first rounders last draft, and they both look like diamonds, so am perfectly happy to forego early draft picks this year considering the quality and balancing out of list age balance that Hibberd and Lewis provide. And, Hibberd is a gun, just the power and propulsion we need off halfback. 

Well theres no way any draft picked kids are going to get gifted a game.

They know right from the start they are going to have to work their butts off to get a look in.

Finally this is how a good side should look and we get a good look at the kids to see if they are any good and if one is it is viewed as a bonus, rather than the spate of "saviors" of the last ten years.

All good

It's said that this year's draft is a bit thin, so if we're not in the first round, it's not essential to hold on to this year's picks. Better to hold on to next year's picks.

Just now, stuie said:

But as Jaded pointed out, we'll have better picks next year, would rather use them to draft players.

 

There will still be plenty of opportunity to use our "better" picks of kids next year, as well as having space at the back end of the draft to use on upgrading.

i think of it as lewis and hibberd for our second round pick.

 

unbelievable result.

Let this be the last time we deal with Essendon for a very long time.

Just now, billy2803 said:

There will still be plenty of opportunity to use our "better" picks of kids next year, as well as having space at the back end of the draft to use on upgrading.

We just differ on the value of the late picks this year I guess. I don't see us getting much with pick 84.

 

2 minutes ago, deespicable me said:

Well theres no way any draft picked kids are going to get gifted a game.

They know right from the start they are going to have to work their butts off to get a look in.

Finally this is how a good side should look and we get a good look at the kids to see if they are any good and if one is it is viewed as a bonus, rather than the spate of "saviors" of the last ten years.

All good

This. I rather more Hunts than Toumpas's

I hear what everyone is saying about not going to the draft this year which on face value is a fair argument.  Getting more young players wasn't why I feel our remaining picks don't give us much to work with.

All along, I've thought our biggest need and what I was really hoping for is a backup for Max in this trade period who is ready to play in 2017.  I was not expecting using #29 at the draft to deliver this.

My remaining hope for a ruck/forward type is someone who becomes a DFA that we can pick up for zip.

Will be quite disappointed if we go into 2017 without a real Max backup (and not just Watts or Pedersen who ruck while Max is resting)!

we are now a football team relying less on the magical maybe out one of raw kids and focusing on ready to go types for TODAY. Tomorrow will be fine.

Welcome Michael

Confirmed on club website. The play of the day, and so far both gets the plays of the trade round. 

I wonder if we'd look to offer up one of these later picks and spring a suprise for Michael Barlow? certainly an upgrade on M.jones/Grimes in terms of depth and a very experienced player still playing reasonable footy

14 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Hibberd + #59 for #29 and #68

As it stands our picks are 57, 59, 84, 102, 120

Can't say that is a good outcome.  ok for upgrading rookies but not much else

there is a whole day to go,  luci.......mahoney can still weave some magic

Just now, Abe said:

I wonder if we'd look to offer up one of these later picks and spring a suprise for Michael Barlow? certainly an upgrade on M.jones/Grimes in terms of depth and a very experienced player still playing reasonable footy

Surely we won't be even thinking about Barlow now after getting Lewis?

Lewis and Hibberd are upgrades on Jones and Grimes too.

 

1 minute ago, daisycutter said:

there is a whole day to go,  luci.......mahoney can still weave some magic

Now your getting greedy Daisy

pick 29 and a pick upgrade is a good result IMO.   

 

2 minutes ago, stuie said:

We just differ on the value of the late picks this year I guess. I don't see us getting much with pick 84.

 

No, we differ on list management ideas.

For a start, trade period hasn't finished, so I will reassess our draft strategy when I know what the final draft order will be.  I expect our draft order to change in some shape over the next 24 hours.

I also know that 12 months is a long time in football, and that upgrading Smith now, who is relatively a project player that has been in the system for 12 months, and Wagner, who has definitely shown "something" but let's see him do it again next year.

1 minute ago, billy2803 said:

No, we differ on list management ideas.

For a start, trade period hasn't finished, so I will reassess our draft strategy when I know what the final draft order will be.  I expect our draft order to change in some shape over the next 24 hours.

I also know that 12 months is a long time in football, and that upgrading Smith now, who is relatively a project player that has been in the system for 12 months, and Wagner, who has definitely shown "something" but let's see him do it again next year.

Smith>Pick 84

 

1 minute ago, DubDee said:

pick 29 and a pick upgrade is a good result IMO.   

 

And is better than what we originally agreed and most on here were happy with.

Collingwood need points for their father son selections I think.

Dunn, 57 and 59 for pick 28?