Will Hoskin-Elliot

[Mach5 4,490]

Not getting much of a go at GWS and looking for a move back to Melb.
Like most GWS cast-offs he will probably be linked to Carlton, but we have some strong links and NEED some pace like that which he provides.

Rangey, pacey line breaker. Can kick a goal.

Haven't watched a LOT of him, and I'm not sure of his ability to win contested footy, but I reckon he'd be a strong target for mine, considering I don't think Josh Kelly or Lachie Whitfield are realistic targets.

[jnrmac 19,327]

In my DT. Never got more than 40 points.

That's reason enough not to entertain him

[jnrmac 19,327]

These guys are a dima a dozen whose value rockets up at trade time and they disappear forever. Remember we got hot under the collar about...

Kristian Jaksch, Brent Prismall etc etc

 

[Fat Tony 4,536]

I think Hoskin-Elliot is worth strongly considering. He has pace, which is so important given the number of goals being kicked over the back. Also contracted I think.

[nutbean 8,837]

1 minute ago, Fat Tony said:

I think Hoskin-Elliot is worth strongly considering. He has pace, which is so important given the number of goals being kicked over the back. Also contracted I think.

When he plays, he has 5 minutes in each game which is really really good - but he is all "cameo" as far as I have seen

[Ted Lasso 17,132]

would depend on what we'd have to give up for him i reckon

[Demons11 6,404]

It's a yes from me.   Great in the air, quick and I think would be in our best 22. 

[DemonLad5 1,640]

He's quick and can kick goals. We need those players

[juzzk1d 1,354]

I think he would add a lot to our midfield. Quick outside player who can find the goals. Doesn't mind an overhead pack mark also. Yes from me.

[Mach5 4,490]

1 hour ago, jnrmac said:

These guys are a dima a dozen whose value rockets up at trade time and they disappear forever. Remember we got hot under the collar about...

Kristian Jaksch, Brent Prismall etc etc

 

You're talking about pick 4 in 2011, in line behind about 20 talented GWS mids... not sure where the correlation is between that and what you're saying.
Kristian Jaksch is a soft key tall with a bad work ethic, Prismal was a slow hardball winning mid riddled with injuries.
Neither are much like Hoskin-Elliot.

[jumbo returns 6,547]

This one surprises me - I thought he'd get more field time....

[Binmans PA 26,511]

2 hours ago, Mach5 said:

Not getting much of a go at GWS and looking for a move back to Melb.
Like most GWS cast-offs he will probably be linked to Carlton, but we have some strong links and NEED some pace like that which he provides.

Rangey, pacey line breaker. Can kick a goal.
Haven't watched a LOT of him, and I'm not sure of his ability to win contested footy, but I reckon he'd be a strong target for mine, considering I don't think Josh Kelly or Lachie Whitfield are realistic targets.

What are the strong links, Mach? Given his hyphenated surname, his Melbourne-supporting youth is assured. 

[hells bells 2,023]

I'd have him.  

Reminds me of Steve Johnson.  First few years pretty average with only glimpses of magic.

Nearly gets traded to Collingwood, fails the medical - wins 3 flags and a Norm Smith.

[Mach5 4,490]

18 minutes ago, AdamFphlebeb said:

What are the strong links, Mach? Given his hyphenated surname, his Melbourne-supporting youth is assured. 

I only meant that we have pinched Frost, Tyson and Bugg from GWS over time.
And those deals, including the Hogan deal, means we obviously have a good working relationship with them in terms of trading.

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,419]

Reminds me of Cale Morton.

[jnrmac 19,327]

1 hour ago, Mach5 said:

 

You're talking about pick 4 in 2011, in line behind about 20 talented GWS mids... not sure where the correlation is between that and what you're saying.
Kristian Jaksch is a soft key tall with a bad work ethic, Prismal was a slow hardball winning mid riddled with injuries.
Neither are much like Hoskin-Elliot.

Cale Mortin went pick 4. Big deal. And his stats are way better than WHE.

He has done nothing since being drafted to suggest he has a future. 52 games in 5 years averaging 8 kicks?

Pass.

[Mach5 4,490]

13 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Cale Mortin went pick 4. Big deal. And his stats are way better than WHE.

He has done nothing since being drafted to suggest he has a future. 52 games in 5 years averaging 8 kicks?

Pass.

Big deal? Mate, you're the one for some reason comparing players that bear little resemblance.

52 games at GWS isn't too bad.
He's fast, has an engine and can kick goals.

Fair enough if you don't agree, but come back to me when you have a semi-coherent argument.

[Generation dee 1,336]

You can be as quick as you want, but if you can't find the footy...

Another o'rourke in my view. Gws will no doubt get a pick around 12-20 but I just don't see this guy possessing enough outside of "pace" to make it. 

If we were to ask about a gws player this year, it would be Paul Ahern. Ruptured acl late in 2015 so would be ripe for start of pre season, although contracted until end of 2017, could be valued about 15-25. Again, a high price but I think he has more weapons than whe

[pitmaster 3,112]

Must be considered if only for the hyphenated surname.

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

Supporters are always quick to make up their minds about players who have been on lists for years but have had limited exposure at AFL level and haven't shown a great deal.

I'm certainly guilty of that. 

However, GWS as a club are an outlier. The obvious reason being that they possess so much more talent on their list than any opposition club within the AFL. In fact it's a joke how much talent they have.

There's a reason their seconds side win by close to 100 points a week every week. The club is a gold mine of talent and we'd be mad not trade for players who would complement our group.

Will-Hoskin Elliott is exactly the 'type' of player we need to inject into our midfield mix. We're a really heavily contested midfield group, we're certainly not quick and it's clear to me that we're now at the stage of our list building where we can introduce these specialty type of players and give them really defined roles. The contested part of our game is sorted.

Good thread and good post, I'm all for having a dip at him.

Edited August 12, 2016 by stevethemanjordan

[Redleg 38,052]

2 hours ago, Mach5 said:

I only meant that we have pinched Frost, Tyson and Bugg from GWS over time.
And those deals, including the Hogan deal, means we obviously have a good working relationship with them in terms of trading.

We apparently do have a good relationship with GWS and I wouldn't be surprised, to see us trade another player from them, with them improving their draft position again.

[dazzledavey36 49,374]

I swear he tore us apart at the G couple of years ago.

[hells bells 2,023]

51 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said:

Supporters are always quick to make up their minds about players who have been on lists for years but have had limited exposure at AFL level and haven't shown a great deal.

I'm certainly guilty of that. 

However, GWS as a club are an outlier. The obvious reason being that they possess so much more talent on their list than any opposition club within the AFL. In fact it's a joke how much talent they have.

There's a reason their seconds side win by close to 100 points a week every week. The club is a gold mine of talent and we'd be mad not trade for players who will not complement our group.

Will-Hoskin Elliott is exactly the 'type' of player we need to inject into our midfield mix. We're a really heavily contested midfield group, we're certainly not quick and it's clear to me that we're now at the stage of our list building where we can introduce these specialty type of players and give them really defined roles. The contested part of our game is sorted.

Good thread and good post, I'm all for having a dip at him.

Agreed

[ChaserJ 4,009]

1 hour ago, Generation dee said:

You can be as quick as you want, but if you can't find the footy...

Another o'rourke in my view. Gws will no doubt get a pick around 12-20 but I just don't see this guy possessing enough outside of "pace" to make it. 

If we were to ask about a gws player this year, it would be Paul Ahern. Ruptured acl late in 2015 so would be ripe for start of pre season, although contracted until end of 2017, could be valued about 15-25. Again, a high price but I think he has more weapons than whe

Wouldn't mind WHE depending on the price, but agree 100% on Paul Ahern.  Better ball user than WHE and can win his own ball.

If we could shake either Ahern or Pickett out, we'd go a long way toward rounding out our midfield.

 

[Return to Glory 7,797]

4 hours ago, Mach5 said:

 

You're talking about pick 4 in 2011, in line behind about 20 talented GWS mids... not sure where the correlation is between that and what you're saying.
Kristian Jaksch is a soft key tall with a bad work ethic, Prismal was a slow hardball winning mid riddled with injuries.
Neither are much like Hoskin-Elliot.

I do not exaggerate when I say Jaksch is perhaps the worst AFL player in the last decade, at the very least.