The Jesse Hogan Panic Room - all contract talk here

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

Never discount the possibility that someone somewhere is LYING to muddy the waters and gain some kind of advantage, and it may be in a deal that does not involve Hogan. It may be that they think it will help their manouvering with McCarthy, or that it will force up Hogan's price with us and screw up our player payments ... who knows.

"Lying is the second language of the AFL" - Kevin Bartlett.

[iv'a worn smith 1,979]

1 hour ago, Demons11 said:

What position does he hold at Freo??

Can't say, as that would reveal the person's name.  And who said it was a "he"?

[iv'a worn smith 1,979]

1 hour ago, mo64 said:

Did he say whether that was likely to be at the end of this year or next?  IMO, if Hogan doesn't sign up by the end of this season, he's leaving. He'd understand that his early signature/contract is important for the club's list management and potential success, in addition to membership and sponsorship. If he wants success at Melbourne, he'll sign early.

I totally agree with this Mo.  We won't know of course, but I reckon the MFC will be saying by the end of this year, we need to know Jesse, as we have to plan for the future.

[daisycutter 29,892]

2 minutes ago, iv'a worn smith said:

Can't say, as that would reveal the person's name.  And who said it was a "he"?

was it a Mx?

[iv'a worn smith 1,979]

11 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

was it a Mx?

PM me if you want to know.

[mauriesy 7,410]

1 hour ago, 3Dee said:

but the Freo forum said it! must be true!

Written at the start of April ...

"Hogan, who grew up in Western Australia, may be tempted by the offer to return to his home state with a club that is further along in its chances of securing premiership glory than the struggling Demons."

Ha.

 

[DubDee 26,300]

Far out I would gutted if this is true. 

people thinking we'll be fine based on 2 untried youngsters are kidding themselves.  Hogan will be one of the top 10 players in the AFL for the next 10 years and losing him could be the difference between winning a flag or not

[ManDee 7,317]

1 minute ago, DubDee said:

Far out I would gutted if this is true. 

people thinking we'll be fine based on 2 untried youngsters are kidding themselves.  Hogan will be one of the top 10 players in the AFL for the next 10 years and losing him could be the difference between winning a flag or not

So could keeping him if the price is too high.

[beelzebub 23,390]

1 hour ago, Ted Fidge said:

Never discount the possibility that someone somewhere is LYING to muddy the waters and gain some kind of advantage, and it may be in a deal that does not involve Hogan. It may be that they think it will help their manouvering with McCarthy, or that it will force up Hogan's price with us and screw up our player payments ... who knows.

"Lying is the second language of the AFL" - Kevin Bartlett.

and the first is Bullshlt !!

[DubDee 26,300]

2 minutes ago, ManDee said:

So could keeping him if the price is too high.

id happily pay him a million a year for 7.  we havent seen a player of his quality for a long long time

I dont believe is decision will all be about money

[daisycutter 29,892]

15 minutes ago, iv'a worn smith said:

PM me if you want to know.

thanks anyway iva but i'd prefer to keep a clear head re jesse scuttlebutt 

[Demons11 7,096]

49 minutes ago, iv'a worn smith said:

Can't say, as that would reveal the person's name.  And who said it was a "he"?

Unless it is the Snr coach, list manager or head recruiter then it's all crap.  There is no way the whole footy would know who was being brought in or being pushed out.  Especially when it comes to a big fish

[iv'a worn smith 1,979]

3 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

Unless it is the Snr coach, list manager or head recruiter then it's all crap.  There is no way the whole footy would know who was being brought in or being pushed out.  Especially when it comes to a big fish

I let my friend know about your sage observations.

Edited May 25, 2016 by iv'a worn smith

[whatwhat say what 23,422]

the issue with jesse is that in order to 'land' him, freo will have to give up something that we want.

 

they will have high end draft picks this year, at any rate, but no guarantee that they won't rise up the ladder at the end of the year to be a major contender in 2017.

 

i don't know what young talent they really could offer for us to lose one of the most exciting kpp talents to ever emerge - jesse is doing things in his first two years that it takes 'normal' kpp forwards up to five years to start to achieve.

 

he's a freak, and i don't know how freo could possibly satisfy our 'demands' for him.

[Ethan Tremblay 31,243]

Fremantle supporters are delusional suggesting an offer of Taberner or Barlow and a 2nd round pick for Hogan. 

Not that he's going anywhere it's just fun to laugh at Dockers fans.

[H_T 3,049]

57 minutes ago, DubDee said:

Far out I would gutted if this is true. 

people thinking we'll be fine based on 2 untried youngsters are kidding themselves.  Hogan will be one of the top 10 players in the AFL for the next 10 years and losing him could be the difference between winning a flag or not

Being in contention for a flag or not. Making finals or not. Having a strong culture or not. Increasing member numbers or stagnating.

Is this panic room thread padded?

 

Seriously though, lets weigh up the differences: -

At Fremantle...

• Retiring and aging Pavlich & Sandilands
• A freak of a player in Fyfe with huge ?? on his body
• An aging list - Johnson, Mundy
• Lack of upcoming development
• Chris Mayne (eek)
• Heave ho, way to go....(not even a theme song)
• Zac Dawson
• An annoying Ballantyne
• A wayward Bennell
• Flying around the country twice every 2nd week.
• Average surfing spots, Shark sightings.
• Toothless drugged up violent fans
• 0-9 record; 68%, 18th position
• Swan Lager
• Alan Bond
• You'd go colour blind looking at a purple haze
• And a coach who is about to re-develop this aging list which may take several years (no experience in re-developing)...:
• 

 

At Melbourne...

• Jones
• Petracca
• Oliver
• Viney
• Vanden Burg
• Gawn
• An ageless Vince
• Majority of games at the G
• Good mate Harmes
• Salem
• Watts
• Brayshaw
• Garlett
• Jetta
• Weidemann
• Trengove
• Hunt
• Wagner
• McDonald x 2
• Stretch
• Melksham
• Lumumba
• Kent
• Awesome surfing spots - Sth West Coast, VIC.
• Awesome fans
• Awesome Theme Song
• AAMI training precinct
• Melbourne
• Tyson
• Dawes
• Spencil
• Hurley
• Pederson
• Bugg
• King
• Newton
• Garland
• Frost
• King
• King
• Hulett
• Dunn
• Jones
• Terlich
• Melbourne Water
• 5-4 record, 113%, 9th position
• The Place To Be
• World's Most Liveable City x 4
• Goodwin
• Roos
• and...

 

It's a lay down misere..

 

[daisycutter 29,892]

so ht, pj is staying then? good news

[Members' Wing 1,106]

35 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Fremantle supporters are delusional suggesting an offer of Taberner or Barlow and a 2nd round pick for Hogan. 

Not that he's going anywhere it's just fun to laugh at Dockers fans.

Surely not?!

[Demon Dynasty 17,129]

3 hours ago, ManDee said:

How could this be possible? Still contracted until end of 2017. I believe entering contacts with contracted players is not legal. (Yes I remember voldemort) How valid is an agreement that is illegal? Has the MFC done a trade- NO, so 2018 would be the earliest he could return to WA and a lot can change before then. I'm calling this B U L L S H I T

That is correct MD. However, there is nothing that prevents an "in principal" agreement having been reached with his manager. I would put nothing past Freo after the Lyon snatching. The Demons should be ruthless with this and offer a super long term (6+ year!?) contract to seal the deal at our end IMO. We also need to win every possible game from here and hopefully make finals. All starting this week against the Power away from home.

I'm also hoping that Freo keeps losing, creating turmoil within the Club (and without). One of the rare times i will barrack for the Saints this Saturday. 10 - Zip is going to look like an extremely ugly "send in the administrators!" balance sheet if they lose.

Would anyone of Jessie's calibre really want to join a struggling wooden spooner at the prime of their career with the ugly "Lyon" method of play no longer valid in today's game? They would have to offer a ridiculous sum/overs to obtain him, possibly squeezing out the chance of putting a decent team around him (if he did accept) going forward, limiting their (and Jessie's) potential chance of any medium term success.

Edited May 25, 2016 by Rusty Nails

[Ethan Tremblay 31,243]

18 minutes ago, Members' Wing said:

Surely not?!

Yep their supporters are that stupid.

Other suggestions were Lachie Neale but i've heard he's going to re-sign with the Dockers within a week or so.

Edited May 25, 2016 by Ethan Tremblay

[ManDee 7,317]

1 minute ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Yep they're supporters are that stupid.

Ethan! 

[Ethan Tremblay 31,243]

1 minute ago, ManDee said:

Ethan! 

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Edited May 25, 2016 by Ethan Tremblay

[ManDee 7,317]

3 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

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Annoying when the fingers are faster than the brain, we all do it, well I do.

 

 

Edit:- That auto sensor was slow, maybe someone saw it? 

Edited May 25, 2016 by ManDee

[beelzebub 23,390]

I just blame predictive text on the phone. Always a raffle as to how words display 

[daisycutter 29,892]

Just now, ManDee said:

Annoying when the fingers are faster than the brain, we all do it, well I do.

 

i've got slow fingers and a slow brain and i still do it.....................what were we talking about?